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#1    MoonBaby

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Posted 16 July 2004 - 08:25 PM

Does anybody here think that the human race here on earth will ever reach the point where we are traveling the galaxies and achieve the level peace that has been reaced in the Star Trek series? And I'm talking peace between individuals and acceptance of other ways of life, not peace throughout the Universe. Although, it seems there is more peace throughout the Universe in Star Trek than there is on our own insignificant planet at this time.  

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Posted 16 July 2004 - 09:56 PM

QUOTE (MoonBaby @ Jul 16 2004, 09:25 PM)
Does anybody here think that the human race here on earth will ever reach the point where we are traveling the galaxies and achieve the level peace that has been reaced in the Star Trek series? And I'm talking peace between individuals and acceptance of other ways of life, not peace throughout the Universe. Although, it seems there is more peace throughout the Universe in Star Trek than there is on our own insignificant planet at this time.

no, we will destroy ourselves first.

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Posted 16 July 2004 - 10:13 PM

I don't believe:

a ) Humans can co-exist peacefully.
b ) That level of technology will ever be reached.
c ) Humans will exist in another 3 thousand years.

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Posted 16 July 2004 - 10:22 PM

I dont think we'll kill ourselves off.  I think that peace on Earth will happen when something desasterous happens, such as a nuclear war, or, better yet, contact with another agressive alien race. But other than that... I see the future more likely to be like the future in the Alien series...

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Posted 16 July 2004 - 11:08 PM

QUOTE (Stellar @ Jul 16 2004, 11:22 PM)
I dont think we'll kill ourselves off.  I think that peace on Earth will happen when something desasterous happens, such as a nuclear war, or, better yet, contact with another agressive alien race. But other than that... I see the future more likely to be like the future in the Alien series...

you do realize the odds of us encountering an alien species are about 100 million times the odds of finding a certain fish in the ocean (say every fish in the ocean was a clown fish except for one)  

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Posted 17 July 2004 - 12:27 AM

I'm pretty sure there are already some places in the USA that are so polluted, living there is like smoking two packs of cigarettes a day. This world is slowly getting more and more polluted, we're soon going to run out of oil, therefore plastic, I say space flight is our only hope, but there are like no inhabitable planets (unless mars works out which would be cool). Sorry I just realised I used like no full stops:S!

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Posted 17 July 2004 - 02:43 AM

Unfortunately it takes much bloodshed and wars for our human to realize that we are one family.  Cultural evloution is much slower than a technical one.  I think it'll take another at least 500 years before racism and unhealthy inter-nation rivalry can be eliminated and only then a united effort to explore space will be possible.  But maybe it will take an alien invasion or universal disaster to unite us into one body?

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Posted 17 July 2004 - 10:58 AM

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Unfortunately it takes much bloodshed and wars for our human to realize that we are one family


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I think that peace on Earth will happen when something desasterous happens,


Unfortunately, humans lack the memory for something like that. They said, after WWI, that nothing as horrible could ever happen again. After WWII, they said that this is it, nothing as horrible could ever happen again. 50 yrs later, we still try to find ways to live in peace and free of terror. We still try to live without the fear of...the sky falling on our heads. (said me, Asterix the Gaul) wink2.gif



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Posted 18 July 2004 - 08:32 PM

i think it would take some kind of miracle for this planet to achieve total peace, war is a serious money making business and it wouldnt just happen overnight where man stops imposing his will on other man, as for star trekking across the universe, maybe our childrens children might get some inkling about when that will occur, it would be nice to see world peace in our time and man reaching beyond the stars but its strictly television at the moment and i guess we just have to accept that for now, its a nice thought and maybe.................. some day.........just not yet

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Posted 18 July 2004 - 09:29 PM

I guess a note of hope would be to think that no more than 70 years ago, the head of the English Astronomy society stated that a trip to moon was "total and utter stupidity, something that will never happen". 20 years later, it did...

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Posted 18 July 2004 - 11:39 PM

Technology such as the Star Treks may be possible, but I think we're more likely to be the Dominion than the Federation.

However, the chances of finding intellegent life is slim, slimmer still is the chance that it will be humanoid or similar enough to us to comunicate.

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Posted 18 July 2004 - 11:45 PM

Smaller still is it that the lifeform will want to be our friends and that we'll have sexual relations with them. And that there will be many different types of them defined soley by the ridges on their noses.


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Posted 18 July 2004 - 11:48 PM

I would hope that we would be able to make it to the point that we were able to have star trekkish technology.

I for one just want the phaser...wouldn't it be great to be able to stun people that pissed you off???

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Looking at my own post I think I may have answered the question... yeah, we're screwed. whistling2.gif  

Too many people on both sides of the spectrum have fallen into this mentality that a full one half of the country are the enemy for having different beliefs...in a country based on freedom of expression. It is this infighting that allows the focus to be taken away from "we the people" being able to watch, and have control over government corruption and ineptitude that is running rampant in our leadership.

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Posted 19 July 2004 - 04:04 AM

No, I do not think we may ever reach the full use of Star Trek technology and exploration.  Yes, as the others we will end up destroying ourselves first.  Why?  Mankind persists in ever greater moral entropy.  Without a real revival to moral clarity, the nothing will continue to add darkness to the world.

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Posted 19 July 2004 - 04:53 AM

Judging by the Star Trek calendar, we have passed the date in which humanity was to create huge advances in space exploration and biological engineering, like Khan.

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