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[JonathanVonErich]

That's what i tought when you talked about the Horse Track...Maybe Cheri Jo was killed because Joseph had debts...i mean at this point everything is possible in this case...
I'll continue my little investigation....I got 2 or 3 emails adress of formers Zodiac investigators so maybe something new will come up...

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

Eh thought i would add  this even though it's pretty scattered but I'm interested if any of this means anything because I do not know this case, I'd never heard of it before reading about it here.

I was working on something else entirely different (nothing to do with serial killers or murderers) and out of nowhere it was like i was observing a conversation between others, where I saw Cherry Jo Bates name mentioned and with it they said, 4 other women and the following names, Josie or Jones, Josie Jones CA ?, murdered wife Stephanie Parks and Katlyn. The name Lynwood something. Then I felt that sickness again with the energy and I had to stop it. I keep getting the words "he did it over and over and over and over again. References to "I'm going to rip your throat out"[male], and "he dared me to do it"[female] and "your sister belittled you"[male] and then "you're a footlose Jack"[male] -  Ugh it's going to be one of those nights. I'll add to this if anything more comes through.  

Edit - has there ever been a reference to a Ian Cummings ?

Edited by SupeRgirl, 13 September 2010 - 07:36 AM.

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

Continuation - sorry this may sound off the wall, but these were bits and pieces... Also I have no idea if these have anything to do with this case or not, I may be getting total cross wires.  

"he called me for help again then went and pursued her. Jo Bates was on the chatter something..../" [can't make out the rest but this was a male] Is the 'chatter' an American or local slang for something ?

"The supreme (something) and bellisits/bellonist../" [can't make out the rest]

"Nancy was taken at the care hospital. From here onwards there was no sign of her.../" [This came through in and out so fast]

"She knew he loved flowers, he pinned that on her.../" [picture of a red small flower shown]


"The Draks (sounds like 'draks' with a really short vowel sound) were only consulted once, you know the queens.../" [who are the draks, is this American or local slang for something]

"Amy was another. She was found drowned in a pool/pool of blood. He escalated the violence and killings soon after.../"

Also has there ever been a reference to a Tony Roberts on any of these zodiac cases.


If none of this makes any sense, then disregard and apologies for interrupting the thread with dead peoples babble.

Edited by SupeRgirl, 13 September 2010 - 07:37 AM.

[JonathanVonErich]

Thanks for sharing, Supagirl....

I never heard of Ian Cummings before in this case, or in fact any case...I'll look deeper however...
I'll look deeper into the names you gave. Many young women were killed/raped in the late 60's near Santa Rosa, Riverside, Vallejo and all around San Francisco so maybe some links can be made there.....

I don't know who Tony Roberts is....again i'll look after that.

don't apologise Supagirl, this case is cold for 44 years so anything is welcome.
If you have other things please share.
Thanks
JVE

[JonathanVonErich]

Ok, back with the list of the 8 Santa Rosa murders in and around Santa Rosa between February 1972 and December 1973.

1) 2-4-1972 Yvonne Weber, 13;

2) 2-4-1972 Maureen Sterling, 12;

3) 3-4-1972 Kim Allen, 19;

4) 4-25-1972 Jeanette Kamahele, 20, whose remains have never been found;

5) between 12-1 and 12-8-1972 Lori Kursa, 13;

6) 7-15-1973 Caroline Davis, 15;

7) 12-22-1973 Theresa Walsh, 23; and

8) ca. 1972-74 Jane Doe, found on 7-6-1979 a mere hundred yards from where Lori Kursa had been found.

Again this is not a direct link with the Cheri Jo case but many feels that it could be the same killer/killers. All the murders are still unsolved.

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

JonathanVonErich, on 13 September 2010 - 09:26 PM, said:

don't apologise Supagirl, this case is cold for 44 years so anything is welcome.
If you have other things please share.
Thanks
JVE

Thanks and i will do. I'll wait a while and see if anything from that comes to light. There is one thing that keeps coming over and over which i never mentioned before because i thought it was too daft. I can make a direct link out of what i posted before, but i don't feel it's right to do so without knowing if it really relates to the killer or not. But one of the males was known to have a side to them where they spoke in a stupid voice for whatever reason, to be funny or just theatrical at times. Comes across like a scooby doo voice just more aggressive and obnoxious.

Anyways, good luck with your on going research.

[JonathanVonErich]

Thanks Supagirl.

I can't believe that next month this case will be cold for 44 long years....
Cheri Jo still have family members who are alive, like her brother, and they deserve to know the truth. Thanks again to Puridalan, Supergirl, HHH, Al and the other who spent time replying to this topic, for now i have nothing new to offer, hopefully this will change soon.

Thanks again. I'm sure Cheri Jo would be happy to know that some people still care about her.

Edited by JonathanVonErich, 19 September 2010 - 05:19 PM.

[SlyOne]

Just read this thread and gotta say it kept me interested. Have to say though "East cannon" has now been changed to "West" and though I dont know the area where this particular murder was perpetrated could "cannon" not be "Canyon"?

Edited by SlyOne, 24 September 2010 - 09:50 AM.

[JonathanVonErich]

SlyOne, on 24 September 2010 - 09:50 AM, said:

Just read this thread and gotta say it kept me interested. Have to say though "East cannon" has now been changed to "West" and though I dont know the area where this particular murder was perpetrated could "cannon" not be "Canyon"?

Happy to see you find this topic interesting, Sly....
Well We still don't know what could be the meaning of West Cannon, or maybe West Canyon like you said....I have searched the web and here's a list of "Canyon" related places near Riverside:
Canyon Crest is a little community near Riverside. Maybe links can be made there.
- Canyon Crest Country Club
- Canyon Crest Towne Center
- Copper Canyon Apartments
- Winery and Wine Bar at Canyon Crest
- Canyon Crest View Apartments
- Canyon Crest Academy

[JonathanVonErich]

SlyOne, on 24 September 2010 - 09:50 AM, said:

Just read this thread and gotta say it kept me interested. Have to say though "East cannon" has now been changed to "West" and though I dont know the area where this particular murder was perpetrated could "cannon" not be "Canyon"?

As for the East/West Cannon thing Puridalan told me in a private message a log time ago that what she saw was West Cannon, not East Cannon so West Cannon are the correct words.

It's great because i'm writing this from my laptop, at my University, and many of my friends are now interested by the case too...so....why not ??

[SlyOne]

The more people that talk about it, the more chance of jogging someones memory  

[puridalan]

ALso Jon, wherever this took place in the Cannon or "cayon" area, there should be a bank on the corner street hang on let me draw a picture

Okay drew a picture its showing a bank, on the left side...something important near that, the bank is a local bank in this Cannon "caynon" place, also besides the bank on the left side in the picture, if I drew out further down there would be a grocery store about three more stores down, local home grown, small. Also in the picture if you go up to where it says "st" aka the street sign you will note if you head further back, all of it grows out into like big weeds..and then the buildings stop back there

[puridalan]

puridalan, on 25 September 2010 - 06:55 PM, said:

ALso Jon, wherever this took place in the Cannon or "cayon" area, there should be a bank on the corner street hang on let me draw a picture

Okay drew a picture its showing a bank, on the left side...something important near that, the bank is a local bank in this Cannon "caynon" place, also besides the bank on the left side in the picture, if I drew out further down there would be a grocery store about three more stores down, local home grown, small. Also in the picture if you go up to where it says "st" aka the street sign you will note if you head further back, all of it grows out into like big weeds..and then the buildings stop back there

Some reason it didnt add the picture..so I'm trying one more time

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[JonathanVonErich]

Thanks for another great post, Puri....

I found two banks in Canyon Crest:

1. Compass Bank
   5395 Canyon Crest Dr Branch
   Riverside, CA 92507

2. Bank of America, Canyon Crest Branch
   5225 Canyon Crest Drive
   Riverside, CA 92507

If you have more details please share, Puri. I'm trying to find out if Cheri Jo had friends in Canyon Crest or if she had family there, if she went there, etc..... I think it's a very interesting link and who knows, maybe Canyon Crest is the real place to search.

[puridalan]

It would not be bank of america, it would have to be comprass..bank of america is too well known...compress would be the more local bank, if anything.

Edited by puridalan, 25 September 2010 - 07:47 PM.