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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 08:31 PM

www.telegraph.co.uk said:

Cancer is a modern man-made disease caused by the excesses of modern life, a new study suggests.

Researchers looking at almost a thousand mummies from ancient Egypt and South America found only a handful suffered from cancer when now it accounts for nearly one in three deaths.

The findings suggest that it is modern lifestyles and pollution levels caused by industry that are the main cause of the disease and that it is not a naturally occurring condition.

The study showed the disease rate has risen dramatically since the Industrial Revolution, in particular childhood cancer proving that the rise is not simply due to people living longer.

Now it is hoped that it could lead to better understanding of the origins of cancer and to new treatments for the disease which claims more than 150,000 lives a year in the UK alone.

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 08:35 PM

Hmmm... then how come St. Antonius of Padua (about 1200 CE) went to a convent after seeing the cancer destroyed breast of his lover?

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 08:36 PM

One cause of cancer is the placebo effect.

The mediatells you that unless you live this way you are more susceptable to this kind of illness is bound to have a negative effect on some people.


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Posted 14 October 2010 - 08:37 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 14 October 2010 - 08:35 PM, said:

Hmmm... then how come St. Antonius of Padua (about 1200 CE) went to a convent after seeing the cancer destroyed breast of his lover?
From the article: "Researchers looking at almost a thousand mummies from ancient Egypt and South America found only a handful suffered from cancer when now it accounts for nearly one in three deaths."

It seems like it was still around, just less common from their assertion.

The article doesn't surprise me. Our environments are so polluted I am surprised it's not even more common.

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 08:40 PM

View PostPsykonos, on 14 October 2010 - 08:37 PM, said:

From the article: "Researchers looking at almost a thousand mummies from ancient Egypt and South America found only a handful suffered from cancer when now it accounts for nearly one in three deaths."

It seems like it was still around, just less common from their assertion.

The article doesn't surprise me. Our environments are so polluted I am surprised it's not even more common.

Well, the we can agree that whoever wrote that headline should be fired? I have noticed that too, but the headline does not represent the content of the article.

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 09:58 PM

Cancer is actually an ancient reproductive survival technique that our ancestors long ago used. Simple life forms would sometimes reproduce uncontrollably and rapidly for the survival of their species. It's a gene that is no longer effective but has still survived in animals to this day.


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Posted 14 October 2010 - 10:12 PM

View PostPsykonos, on 14 October 2010 - 08:37 PM, said:

From the article: "Researchers looking at almost a thousand mummies from ancient Egypt and South America found only a handful suffered from cancer when now it accounts for nearly one in three deaths."

It seems like it was still around, just less common from their assertion.

The article doesn't surprise me. Our environments are so polluted I am surprised it's not even more common.

I am just wondering what the average ancient Egyptian's life-span was.

I just got a juicer and have been crazy with consuming veggie juices. I simply feel so much better. Just think what it would be like if I were growing my own veggies, instead of the food sold to us from fields that turn over a crop every 90 days.

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 11:04 PM

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I am just wondering what the average ancient Egyptian's life-span was.

I just got a juicer and have been crazy with consuming veggie juices. I simply feel so much better. Just think what it would be like if I were growing my own veggies, instead of the food sold to us from fields that turn over a crop every 90 days.

About 30 years, though there were some well documented extremes where people lived past their 70s.

And here is where we come to the famous lies, infame lies and statistics: The cancer occurrence among those below 30 in our age is not that high either. And I am almost willing to bet a dollar that the occurrences of cancer they found in ancient Egypt is among populace with higher ages.

firellC below has given the hint: most cancers are cause by genes that still exist in human bodies to accelerate cell growth that are triggered spontaneously. That some environments accelerate the occurrence of cancer is because they cause an accelerated decay of cells, which in turn increases the risk of one of those unwanted genes to become active.






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Posted 15 October 2010 - 07:53 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 14 October 2010 - 11:04 PM, said:

About 30 years, though there were some well documented extremes where people lived past their 70s.

And here is where we come to the famous lies, infame lies and statistics: The cancer occurrence among those below 30 in our age is not that high either. And I am almost willing to bet a dollar that the occurrences of cancer they found in ancient Egypt is among populace with higher ages.

firellC below has given the hint: most cancers are cause by genes that still exist in human bodies to accelerate cell growth that are triggered spontaneously. That some environments accelerate the occurrence of cancer is because they cause an accelerated decay of cells, which in turn increases the risk of one of those unwanted genes to become active.




I have known for decades now about that crazy telemere. You are writing to a nurse who loves science. I have been working hard to reduce the plastics in my life. Drink reverse osmosis water, and not the fluoridated tap water. Always have a cup of green tea at my side. And now, for the last three days, have been juicing with veggies. The juicer just got here. I have tried to eliminate beef and gluten from my diet, which is really sad for me to do, for my father was a cattle and wheat farmer. I eliminated the beef only because they are not testing it adequately these days, IMHO.

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 08:50 AM

View Postregeneratia, on 15 October 2010 - 07:53 PM, said:

I have known for decades now about that crazy telemere. You are writing to a nurse who loves science. I have been working hard to reduce the plastics in my life. Drink reverse osmosis water, and not the fluoridated tap water. Always have a cup of green tea at my side. And now, for the last three days, have been juicing with veggies. The juicer just got here. I have tried to eliminate beef and gluten from my diet, which is really sad for me to do, for my father was a cattle and wheat farmer. I eliminated the beef only because they are not testing it adequately these days, IMHO.


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Posted 16 October 2010 - 11:25 AM

of course that it is, not only cancer, everything


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Posted 16 October 2010 - 11:27 AM

even listening to economy will recover and daily terror news for few years give you cancer alone


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Posted 16 October 2010 - 11:32 AM

and working longer with millions of scientists dumber than caveman in 21st century gives you cancer too


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Posted 16 October 2010 - 11:37 AM

i think the hussle and bussle of modern man kills him back in the ancient time i wouldnt think theres so much stress over silly unimportant thingslike now


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Posted 16 October 2010 - 05:40 PM

View PostfireIIC, on 14 October 2010 - 09:58 PM, said:

Cancer is actually an ancient reproductive survival technique that our ancestors long ago used. Simple life forms would sometimes reproduce uncontrollably and rapidly for the survival of their species. It's a gene that is no longer effective but has still survived in animals to this day.

Is there anything to back that up, or is that just you making the claim?





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