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Ancient Atomic Bombs
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, Jul 02 2001 10:41 AM
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Posted 12 December 2003 - 06:30 PM
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Posted 12 December 2003 - 07:13 PM
| QUOTE (crosswarrior @ Dec 11 2003, 03:09 PM) |
| The theory of a an ancient A-bomb sounds plausible. But if it is how many more times shall we have to blow ourselves back into the stone age? For if it has been done once undoubtably it will be done again. |
The sands of the area will melt when exposed to extreme heat. Modern day glassmakers use an over that burns in excess of 1500 degree(f) to turn silica in glass.
While that is an extreme temperature, nuclear devices are not the only option that we have to choose from.
An ancient A-bomb seems pretty unlikely to me. Although there is a lot of history that we have no idea about, I would tend to lean towards a much simpler theory.
In 1908 an explosion occured near Tunguska Siberia. It could be heard clearly over 500 miles from the epicenter. While the debate goes back and forth as to whether it was a meteor or an asteriod, the result was the same. Hundreds of square miles were destroyed by the explosion, and fires burned for some time afterwards. This is a fairly rare, but unheard of event, and there are several impact craters that can be found around the globe from different times in earths history.
How many craters are there that have been created by an impact of a meteor that get covered up by geological processes over a period of thousands of years? We still don't have a good idea as to how often we get struck by large meteors. There could be a lot of these impact craters that create glass(in the desert) that we just don't have a clue about.
I don't think that we have blown ourselves up before. Mankind as we know it hasn't been around long enough to develop any serious technology that we could have blown ourselves up with, before now that is.
If we had blown ourselves back into the stone-age, there would be something left over from that period of time as a clue to our past.
Too many people on both sides of the spectrum have fallen into this mentality that a full one half of the country are the enemy for having different beliefs...in a country based on freedom of expression. It is this infighting that allows the focus to be taken away from "we the people" being able to watch, and have control over government corruption and ineptitude that is running rampant in our leadership.
People should be working towards fixing problems, not creating them.
People should be working towards fixing problems, not creating them.
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Posted 12 December 2003 - 07:13 PM
...interesting. 
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Posted 14 December 2003 - 03:27 AM
why is it that people automatically think that for there to be a mushroom cloud, it has to be an A-Bomb? Mushroom clouds are merely a biproduct of a large enough explosion, sure the radiation is compelling but a meteorite would be just as capable of creating a similar effect...
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Posted 15 December 2003 - 09:49 AM
.......and is a far more likely explanation.
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Posted 06 May 2004 - 07:53 AM
Radioactive meteorite.......to the extent that it altered the glass fused in the impact. Very highly unlikely.....why??
You have to know the composition of the main classes of meteorite/asteroids which populate the Solar System to understand this. Whilst there are some radioactive minerals that occur in meteorites, the concentrations and total amounts do not weigh up to be enough to cause the effects that are seen. Except in very large objects (those 1km or more in size), and even then it would depend entirely on the composition of that one particular piece of rock.
However that's not to say that it can't be natural.....and an asteroid impact could still cause the glass to go blue-green if it hit the right strata/rocks. Strata that contains higher than normal concentrations of Uranium (Lanthanide)series elements. The force of the impact, might, after the whole shebang died down allow radioactive minerals to concentrate in high enough quantities to form an area of higher than normal radioactivity.
What sends the glass the colour it is, is radiation damage caused by fast neutrons and gamma radiation doping of the molecular structure of the glass. For any concentration of radioactive material to do this to the glass, it would have to be in a high enough concentration to sustain partial fission of the material, at the very least. There are a few known natural nuclear reactors which could alter the glass, but the heat to vitrify the glass is another problem. It has to be done quickly, and cooled quickly, to allow the glass to form its amorphous xtalline structure.
The only other way to do it is to subject the soil to intense radiation and very high heat for a short period. Like in a nuclear weapon.
Did it happen in the past??......maybe. Who knows.
You have to know the composition of the main classes of meteorite/asteroids which populate the Solar System to understand this. Whilst there are some radioactive minerals that occur in meteorites, the concentrations and total amounts do not weigh up to be enough to cause the effects that are seen. Except in very large objects (those 1km or more in size), and even then it would depend entirely on the composition of that one particular piece of rock.
However that's not to say that it can't be natural.....and an asteroid impact could still cause the glass to go blue-green if it hit the right strata/rocks. Strata that contains higher than normal concentrations of Uranium (Lanthanide)series elements. The force of the impact, might, after the whole shebang died down allow radioactive minerals to concentrate in high enough quantities to form an area of higher than normal radioactivity.
What sends the glass the colour it is, is radiation damage caused by fast neutrons and gamma radiation doping of the molecular structure of the glass. For any concentration of radioactive material to do this to the glass, it would have to be in a high enough concentration to sustain partial fission of the material, at the very least. There are a few known natural nuclear reactors which could alter the glass, but the heat to vitrify the glass is another problem. It has to be done quickly, and cooled quickly, to allow the glass to form its amorphous xtalline structure.
The only other way to do it is to subject the soil to intense radiation and very high heat for a short period. Like in a nuclear weapon.
Did it happen in the past??......maybe. Who knows.
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Posted 06 May 2004 - 09:25 AM
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| Radioactive meteorite.......to the extent that it altered the glass fused in the impact. Very highly unlikely.....why?? |
more unlikely than a nuclear bomb used by the ancient indians:)
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Posted 07 May 2004 - 01:24 AM
Why?
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Posted 09 May 2004 - 02:00 AM
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| However that's not to say that it can't be natural.....and an asteroid impact could still cause the glass to go blue-green if it hit the right strata/rocks. Strata that contains higher than normal concentrations of Uranium (Lanthanide)series elements. The force of the impact, might, after the whole shebang died down allow radioactive minerals to concentrate in high enough quantities to form an area of higher than normal radioactivity. What sends the glass the colour it is, is radiation damage caused by fast neutrons and gamma radiation doping of the molecular structure of the glass. For any concentration of radioactive material to do this to the glass, it would have to be in a high enough concentration to sustain partial fission of the material, at the very least. There are a few known natural nuclear reactors which could alter the glass, but the heat to vitrify the glass is another problem. It has to be done quickly, and cooled quickly, to allow the glass to form its amorphous xtalline structure. |
Huh?
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Posted 09 May 2004 - 02:52 AM
What's the "huh??" for??.......didn't you understand what I wrote there.
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Posted 09 May 2004 - 02:52 PM
it's a lot of big words and names of crazy rocks and elements. i didnt realy get what they all are. it was supposed to be a joke...aaah nevermind 
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Posted 09 May 2004 - 03:06 PM
but are these machines any good anymore. i mean can it do something against a black hawk?
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Posted 09 May 2004 - 06:55 PM
well in a couple of other threads in this website, they talk about how the ancient peoples wrote of these amazingly powerful weapons these machines have. but i do feel, that if there was any of these machines, wouldnt we have found them? or maybe UFO sightings are really the aliens picking up their trash??? (being serious)
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Posted 10 May 2004 - 09:18 PM
thunder sometimes can heaten up the sand and make strange tubular sculptures... it's only a suggestion, i don't know
maybe it was aliens, or maybe us back in time... lol... hum
i'd like to add too that Plato is not the lying type : he said that in a perfect republic, all poets and writers should be exiled because they led to superstitions and things like that, being too imaginative...
maybe it was aliens, or maybe us back in time... lol... hum
i'd like to add too that Plato is not the lying type : he said that in a perfect republic, all poets and writers should be exiled because they led to superstitions and things like that, being too imaginative...
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Posted 11 May 2004 - 01:10 AM
Well, maybe the machines are buried under the Earth? Actually, stone tablets or something like that were found in Tibet not too long ago which contained instructions on creating an interstellar spaceship and also anti gravity. China actually claims to be using some of the info from it in their space program.
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