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#16    Sakari

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 12:46 AM

I still can not figure out why people think the Government is hiding anything , why would they?....And do not say mass panic , that is a crock.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 02:07 AM

View PostSakari, on 08 November 2010 - 12:46 AM, said:

I still can not figure out why people think the Government is hiding anything , why would they?....And do not say mass panic , that is a crock.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 02:42 AM

View PostSakari, on 08 November 2010 - 12:46 AM, said:

I still can not figure out why people think the Government is hiding anything , why would they?....And do not say mass panic , that is a crock.

Think about it. I don't think the government knows any more than we do, but why would they want to admit something like that?

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 02:50 AM

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Think about it. I don't think the government knows any more than we do, but why would they want to admit something like that?

Why wouldn't they ?......I do not think they know anything either.


And whomever said the great one word answer " control "......Control over what?.....What would hiding the fact that there " are " ET's visiting here have on " control "?........

Not like it would be a devastating announcement " People of the world , I am confirming now , we have had encounters with ET's , they have , and do visit Earth.We do not know why , we do not know any more than any of you , only that they do visit here".......

Tell me again , what would that harm , and why would they hide that?........Hell , you could even throw in them making a announcement that Roswell was a crashed ship , and we did get some new inventions through reverse engineering , such as micro chips.....Even that would have no effect on anyone.....Some people would say " I told you so ! " , others would be saying " cool  , I guess you were right".....And we would still be where we are today.

I think I just de-railed the topic....sorry.....back on it.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 03:52 AM

View PostSakari, on 08 November 2010 - 12:46 AM, said:

I still can not figure out why people think the Government is hiding anything , why would they?....And do not say mass panic , that is a crock.

The way i see it, depending on the situation obviously somethings are hidden for money purposes, I think theres already a car that goes perfect without petrol but isnt allowed to be released because think how many countrys profits would fall, some countrys depend on there oil productions. Economic climate would fall with curtain things put out to the public. Google who killed the electric car? and it will come up, theres a few sites but he makes a good point.

But in the alien/UFO situation, I think it will have something to do with maybe religion? Imagine the stur that would course.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 04:08 AM

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The way i see it, depending on the situation obviously somethings are hidden for money purposes, I think theres already a car that goes perfect without petrol but isnt allowed to be released because think how many countrys profits would fall, some countrys depend on there oil productions. Economic climate would fall with curtain things put out to the public. Google who killed the electric car? and it will come up, theres a few sites but he makes a good point.

But in the alien/UFO situation, I think it will have something to do with maybe religion? Imagine the stur that would course.

I know what you mean on the above things , someone in Nevada had made a car that ran on H2O , yes , water....


As for what I had said , I see nothing monetary that could happen.....And as for Religion , I can tell you first hand , Christians and others will tell you , there is no where in the Bible that says God did not create life on other planets.....So , I can not see the Government hiding it for religious purposes either.
I have talked to my parents and others that are " Born Again Christians" , and as I just said , they told me there is no reason why God would not create life on other planets also....So , they all ready have their opinions set. Posted Image    No " stirring" up the religious pot there.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 04:28 AM

I have to agree with you Sakari.  And no, I'm not just agreeing with you because you are a really cool guy!  What you say here is self evident.

Religion is not threatened by the existence of life beyond this planet.  There would be absolutely no reasonable argument to cause the religious believers on our planet to panic upon discovery of life "out there."

People who comment about such nonsense actually make me chuckle, because it is ridiculous.  Anyone who truly believes that life is by design, must open themselves to the possibility that all life would also be by design - whether on this planet or another.


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Posted 08 November 2010 - 04:31 AM

View PostSakari, on 08 November 2010 - 02:50 AM, said:

Why wouldn't they ?......I do not think they know anything either.


And whomever said the great one word answer " control "......Control over what?.....What would hiding the fact that there " are " ET's visiting here have on " control "?........

Not like it would be a devastating announcement " People of the world , I am confirming now , we have had encounters with ET's , they have , and do visit Earth.We do not know why , we do not know any more than any of you , only that they do visit here".......

Tell me again , what would that harm , and why would they hide that?........Hell , you could even throw in them making a announcement that Roswell was a crashed ship , and we did get some new inventions through reverse engineering , such as micro chips.....Even that would have no effect on anyone.....Some people would say " I told you so ! " , others would be saying " cool  , I guess you were right".....And we would still be where we are today.

I think I just de-railed the topic....sorry.....back on it.

Think of it this way: (for the sake of visualization picture the President holding an emergency press conference) "My fellow Americans, people of earth, Kiwanis members, there are vehicles from civilizations other than ours, with technology we cannot comprehend, coming here for reasons we don't understand. These things can come and go as they please, and there isn't really anything we can do about it. We don't even know what they are."

This would imply that the government doesn't have control over the situation, and if you're a government your only legitimacy depends on people believing you have control. If your people don't believe you have things lined out and well in hand you've got big trouble. Just saying.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 04:40 AM

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Think of it this way: (for the sake of visualization picture the President holding an emergency press conference) "My fellow Americans, people of earth, Kiwanis members, there are vehicles from civilizations other than ours, with technology we cannot comprehend, coming here for reasons we don't understand. These things can come and go as they please, and there isn't really anything we can do about it. We don't even know what they are."

This would imply that the government doesn't have control over the situation, and if you're a government your only legitimacy depends on people believing you have control. If your people don't believe you have things lined out and well in hand you've got big trouble. Just saying.

Ok , not joking.......Have you looked at the economy , and how people think of the Government right now?....Exactly how you just stated it , to a " T " ......This is where we are now.

If it were your above quote , enough people all ready think they come here , and it would not be a surprise to any really.....

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 04:46 AM

View PostSakari, on 08 November 2010 - 04:40 AM, said:

Ok , not joking.......Have you looked at the economy , and how people think of the Government right now?....Exactly how you just stated it , to a " T " ......This is where we are now.

If it were your above quote , enough people all ready think they come here , and it would not be a surprise to any really.....

I agree. People are scared and impatient and will listen to anybody that seems to have an answer. Whatever that is.

Honestly, if there was a better time in our history to wheel out the aliens I can't think of it.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 05:10 AM

View Postsnuffypuffer, on 08 November 2010 - 04:46 AM, said:

I agree. People are scared and impatient and will listen to anybody that seems to have an answer. Whatever that is.

Honestly, if there was a better time in our history to wheel out the aliens I can't think of it.

You could be on to something there......Another reason they do not know anything.....A disclosure could lift the economy Posted Image

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 05:13 AM

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You could be on to something there......Another reason they do not know anything.....A disclosure could lift the economy Posted Image

I say the opposite.  Of course I don't know what will happen, but I see the market crashing and most of the world population thinking it would be the end of the world.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 05:35 AM

View Postraoulduke666, on 08 November 2010 - 05:13 AM, said:

I say the opposite.  Of course I don't know what will happen, but I see the market crashing and most of the world population thinking it would be the end of the world.

Again , I ask why ?

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 06:02 AM

View PostSakari, on 08 November 2010 - 05:35 AM, said:

Again , I ask why ?

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The entertainment/media industry "usually" portrays the alien invasion scenario as a hostile threat. Thus depending on the scenario of mass contact, people will run for their lives leaving the government to "fix" the problem.  

I see the media as a brainwashing technique for the government to use to their advantage.  If mass contact does happen, the media will view it as an act of aggression first before anything.  Humans (in general) fear the unknown and anything they can't control.

Again it depends on how the media will portray it.  The population lifting their arms up and cheering is the last thing I would ever expect.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 08:00 AM

View PostSakari, on 08 November 2010 - 04:08 AM, said:

I know what you mean on the above things , someone in Nevada had made a car that ran on H2O , yes , water....


As for what I had said , I see nothing monetary that could happen.....And as for Religion , I can tell you first hand , Christians and others will tell you , there is no where in the Bible that says God did not create life on other planets.....So , I can not see the Government hiding it for religious purposes either.
I have talked to my parents and others that are " Born Again Christians" , and as I just said , they told me there is no reason why God would not create life on other planets also....So , they all ready have their opinions set. Posted Image    No " stirring" up the religious pot there.
It may be wandering slightly off the topic, but I do agree there. Even from the point of view of maintsream religion, what do they insist? That God is all-powerful, and created the heavens and the Earth. So it's already laid down in the Good Book. They already accept the existence of other stars & planets and so on.

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