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#46    ShadowSot

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 09:26 PM

View PostSolarPlexus, on 08 November 2010 - 08:58 PM, said:

Slow down  :)  All im trying to say is - Your government already lied to you about many many things. What's stopping it to lie to you again about other things? :)

There's a difference between expecting to be lied to and jumping on anything that claims the government is lying and holding it as truth.
As I keep trying to point out, the United States is not the only organization with a space program. And with the current efforts by civilian and private organizations making efforts to go to space, this would mean a massive world wide cover up.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 09:30 PM

View PostUniversal Sight, on 08 November 2010 - 09:09 PM, said:

This was something i  saw on a tv show. and the craft that the engineer was showing looked EXACTLY like this. the lights at each corner of the triangle and in the center. So you can "connect the dots" so to speak on this one IMHO.

an actual craft or design diagrams?


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Posted 08 November 2010 - 09:35 PM

View PostShadowSot, on 08 November 2010 - 09:26 PM, said:

There's a difference between expecting to be lied to and jumping on anything that claims the government is lying and holding it as truth.

what are your thoughts re the following...

View Postmcrom901, on 08 November 2010 - 09:28 AM, said:


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http://www.dod.gov/p...ng_room/174.pdf

:unsure2:


COMMUNICATIONS INSTRUCTIONS REPORTING VITAL INTELLIGENCE SIGHTINGS (CIRVIS)

5.6.3.3. Unidentified flying objects.

from.... air force manual 10-206

http://community.the...UFOs-Procedures

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 09:48 PM

:rolleyes: As soon as NASA has evidence of Alien hardware Im sure we will be the Last to Hear about it.
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Posted 08 November 2010 - 09:49 PM

It's just a waiting game we all have to play, so pull up a chair and a beer and don't hold your breath :tu:

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 09:53 PM

View Postmcrom901, on 08 November 2010 - 09:30 PM, said:

an actual craft or design diagrams?

actual craft. prototype(s) sure. a fleet of them? dunno. there were several others as well. ill see if i can find them. and the pictures that were shown of what they looked like was  "out of this world" for sure.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 09:54 PM



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Posted 08 November 2010 - 09:57 PM

View PostUniversal Sight, on 08 November 2010 - 09:53 PM, said:

actual craft. prototype(s) sure. a fleet of them? dunno. there were several others as well. ill see if i can find them. and the pictures that were shown of what they looked like was  "out of this world" for sure.

if possible pls see if you can find them.... very much interested to see them.... :tu:

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 10:07 PM

View PostSolarPlexus, on 08 November 2010 - 03:59 PM, said:

It was a rhetorical question  :mellow:

But here is one real question, How can space debris make sharp turns? In fact, how can space debris make 'turns' at all? How can space debris do anything except act accordingly to the Newton's first law??

How?... if hit by a blast from the shuttles 12 primary maneuvering thrusters.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 10:47 PM

View PostHazzard, on 08 November 2010 - 10:07 PM, said:

How?... if hit by a blast from the shuttles 12 primary maneuvering thrusters.

and how sure are you about that?

for instance re sts-75...



flightpath/velocity tracking of all unidentified objects

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this footage was captures @ met day 7....

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n here is the flight plan update for that day...

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as you can see the maneuver activity was @ 7/2:25

so are you suggesting the aftereffects of the thruster firings were after a good 6 n half hours????

:rolleyes:

eta....

or perhaps you might want to double-check the following report....

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http://ntrs.nasa.gov..._1996048891.pdf

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 10:51 PM

View Postmcrom901, on 08 November 2010 - 09:57 PM, said:

if possible pls see if you can find them.... very much interested to see them.... :tu:

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Yes this is the original image i was thinking of when i saw the picture of the neutral bouyancy craft. exactly the same shae/lighting as was shown by the engineer drawings.

This may be in the video as well. looking like it is in the upper atmosphere. same object???

Edited by Universal Sight, 08 November 2010 - 10:52 PM.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 11:08 PM

View PostUniversal Sight, on 08 November 2010 - 10:51 PM, said:

Yes this is the original image i was thinking of when i saw the picture of the neutral bouyancy craft. exactly the same shae/lighting as was shown by the engineer drawings.

i'm confused now... :wacko:

View PostUniversal Sight, on 08 November 2010 - 09:53 PM, said:

actual craft. prototype(s) sure. a fleet of them? dunno. there were several others as well. ill see if i can find them. and the pictures that were shown of what they looked like was  "out of this world" for sure.

so which was it? actual crafts or drawings?


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Posted 08 November 2010 - 11:44 PM

I can make you some drawings  of actual crafts. What`s ya wanna see? :rolleyes:

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 01:18 AM

View PostShadowSot, on 08 November 2010 - 09:26 PM, said:

View PostSolarPlexus, on 08 November 2010 - 08:58 PM, said:

All im trying to say is - Your government already lied to you about many many things. What's stopping it to lie to you again about other things? :)

There's a difference between expecting to be lied to and jumping on anything that claims the government is lying and holding it as truth.
As I keep trying to point out, the United States is not the only organization with a space program. And with the current efforts by civilian and private organizations making efforts to go to space, this would mean a massive world wide cover up.

I guess you're right :) It requires international content, right? I dig.

But i'd appreciate it if you'd answer my previous question... Will the one who lies to you once, lie to you again or not? Your opinion on what's most likely...  :)

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View PostSolarPlexus, on 08 November 2010 - 08:58 PM, said:

View PostShadowSot, on 08 November 2010 - 06:14 PM, said:

However, the entire field of U.F.O. research is littered with hoaxes and misidentifications, meaning you've been lied to as well.

You mean 'us' ??  :)
I'm not part of it's target audience.

Oh? You aren't interested in UFOs??  :lol:

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View PostSolarPlexus, on 08 November 2010 - 03:59 PM, said:

How can space debris make sharp turns? In fact, how can space debris make 'turns' at all? How can space debris do anything except act accordingly to the Newton's first law??

How?... if hit by a blast from the shuttles 12 primary maneuvering thrusters.

Sure i can agree with that  :)  

But how do you explain situations like those at 0:09 and 0:19 in the OP video? In those cases there are more than one 'space debris' each reacting differently.

And i'd like to hear your opinion on the 'Teether incident' which has at least two or three *dozen* 'space debris' each doing it's own thing, like bacteria under a microscope.

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 05:45 AM

View Postmcrom901, on 08 November 2010 - 11:08 PM, said:

i'm confused now... :wacko:



so which was it? actual crafts or drawings?


from my understanding they were drawings of the prototype crafts that were presented in the show. but if you look in your video in the OP you will see one of these that were presented and explains the "belgian lights" im sure.

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@2:58-3:08m looks to be what was shown on the show to be the  "neutral bouyancy" craft that was described and had a drawing of.

@5:11m - This looks like what was shown on the show. a drawing of the "pyramid"-type craft. On the bottom of this craft the lights are situated like those of the belgian lights UFO.

Not sure what your looking for but this is about all i can provide to "debunk" this part of the debate regarding those 2 objects at least.

The rest of the floaty stuff is most likely debris of sorts. Some of it moves faster than others because of different sizes and possibly because of thrusters, minute space particles from the sun or whatever.  Who knows? But it would be something to travel the gazillion miles to a planet that has inhabitants and replenishing resources and just decide to sit and float in space and do nothing.

Some of the others may be ball lightning as well.

Now, lets see you try the same thing VERIFYING that what YOU see are in fact "extraterrestrial" in origin?  Fair enough?

Edited by Universal Sight, 09 November 2010 - 06:07 AM.

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