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[ShadowSot]

bee, on 21 November 2010 - 02:38 PM, said:

I'm not sure about that.

Without going on a google hunt.....

The male contributes an xy (if the offspring is to be male)

and the female xx

So couldn't the x and the y come from a male?

ie the human female has a chromosone pair xx and xx

whereas the male has xx and xy

Not unless it's a clone.

http://en.wikipedia....ian_inheritance

It's the y from the male that makes the child male. The X comes from the mother, it's in the egg cell.

[bee]

ShadowSot, on 21 November 2010 - 02:41 PM, said:

Not unless it's a clone.

http://en.wikipedia....ian_inheritance

It's the y from the male that makes the child male. The X comes from the mother, it's in the egg cell.

just found this...


http://www.scienceda...50323124659.htm

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Men have one X chromosome and one Y chromosome, the latter being responsible for the characteristics that make men male, including the male sexual organs and the ability to produce sperm. In contrast, women have two copies of the X chromosome.

Still not sure if the y and the x could have come from the male...re the starchild skull.

But I haven't really gone into it deep enough to know.

[ShadowSot]

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Still not sure if the y and the x could have come from the male...re the starchild skull.

But I haven't really gone into it deep enough to know.

  Sure... if you are making a clone.
Men inherit the x chromosome from their mother. The Y comes from their father.
If someone inherits the x and y chromosome from the father, then the child would be a clone of the father.

You really should look through the article on genetics.

[bee]

ShadowSot, on 21 November 2010 - 03:15 PM, said:

Sure... if you are making a clone.
Men inherit the x chromosome from their mother. The Y comes from their father.
If someone inherits the x and y chromosome from the father, then the child would be a clone of the father.

You really should look through the article on genetics.

But the fact remains that the male has one x and one y chromosone in his sex chromosones.

So could the x and y (in the male) both be retreived from the starchild skull.

Ie. the male passes on a pair of chromosones of XY...not just Y...

Not making the Starchild Skull conclusively 100% human. And a question still remain over the ID of the mother...?

Not explaining myself very well and going round in circles now...so I'll shut up...

[Mentalcase]

So, the starchild was male?? A clone? or, A TS? All three plus alien?







Just kidding.

[tipsy_munchkin]

Just because not enough information was intact to pull DNA for the father doesn't mean you can assume it to be abnormal. The DNA tests have found nothing to further the idea that it is a hybrid. A deformed skull is really not enough to assume aliens in my opinion. I'm not an expert on DNA testing but I'd assume its fairly common for DNA in something like this to have deteriorated. With various types of head binding and medical conditions within human history what are the odds of us NOT finding a few weird shaped skulls?

[ShadowSot]

bee, on 21 November 2010 - 03:33 PM, said:

But the fact remains that the male has one x and one y chromosone in his sex chromosones.

So could the x and y (in the male) both be retreived from the starchild skull.

Ie. the male passes on a pair of chromosones of XY...not just Y...

Not making the Starchild Skull conclusively 100% human. And a question still remain over the ID of the mother...?

Not explaining myself very well and going round in circles now...so I'll shut up...

Um...
No.

To go a little more in depth, they looked for mitochondrial DNA.
Mitochondrial DNA is only inherited from the mother, and passed on through the X Chromosome.
The Y chromosome is passed on through the male, though no DNA was able to be recovered from it, it was to degraded.

So, we have a human skull that shows human DNA, with inherited chromosomes from two humans.

Edited by ShadowSot, 21 November 2010 - 03:59 PM.

[SolarPlexus]

Mentalcase, on 21 November 2010 - 03:43 PM, said:

So, the starchild was male?? A clone? or, A TS? All three plus alien?

Hahahaha

[Capt Snowflake]

tipsy_munchkin, on 21 November 2010 - 03:53 PM, said:

Just because not enough information was intact to pull DNA for the father doesn't mean you can assume it to be abnormal. The DNA tests have found nothing to further the idea that it is a hybrid. A deformed skull is really not enough to assume aliens in my opinion. I'm not an expert on DNA testing but I'd assume its fairly common for DNA in something like this to have deteriorated. With various types of head binding and medical conditions within human history what are the odds of us NOT finding a few weird shaped skulls?

But its not ''deformed'', it was naturally supposed to develope like that after some scans.

[1963]

Hi guys!

Here is an update on the ongoing saga from Mr Pye...

http://www.starchild...com/dna2012.htm

Cheers.

[DONTEATUS]

IS that the Same Guy as PIE-R-SQUARED ?

[hacktorp]

1963, on 26 March 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

Hi guys!

Here is an update on the ongoing saga from Mr Pye...

http://www.starchild...com/dna2012.htm

Cheers.

Fascinating!

[Mr.Mojo Risin]

Looks like the predators skull.

[psyche101]

Pye's own examples like the Denisovian's on the website that he presented this claim on actually show that if it is not Homo Sapien that it is likely another form of Hominid.

Somehow considering Lloyd Pye's zealous nature, I doubt if the skull will even be that different from modern humans, let alone aliens.

It is just more nonsense from a nonsense source. Why do people keep humouring him? He is too long winded to even be entertaining.

[quillius]

psyche101, on 27 March 2012 - 05:04 AM, said:

Pye's own examples like the Denisovian's on the website that he presented this claim on actually show that if it is not Homo Sapien that it is likely another form of Hominid.

Somehow considering Lloyd Pye's zealous nature, I doubt if the skull will even be that different from modern humans, let alone aliens.

It is just more nonsense from a nonsense source. Why do people keep humouring him? He is too long winded to even be entertaining.

really? I found the article fascinating to say the least...and learnt quite a bit I didnt know before. Granted there is an extremely bias tone to the article but that should not be to the detriment of the results once forthcoming.