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#31    Babs

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Posted 10 August 2004 - 05:16 PM

Yes...this is sad. (911 had innocent children killed and pulverized).

What is asked of the American people sounds good in theory, but is very hard to put in practice. It's going to be a rough road.

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Posted 10 August 2004 - 06:01 PM

We wondered why the arabs would be in a neutral country and packing bombs or bomb threats? My husband put forth the idea that maybe_ because_ Denmark was neutral, the arabs could get in there and do their dirty deeds. Anybody have any ideas on this? I noticed there was someone posting from Denmark and Finland on the board, maybe they could help us out with this?

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Posted 10 August 2004 - 09:20 PM

it still does not justify children of whatever religion being harassed and attacked. i repeat, there is no justification or excuse in attacking children. if you think there is, pls explain?

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Posted 10 August 2004 - 10:11 PM

Oh my god ...........


That all i can say.

Again britain and nearly all european countries are so much safer than america it is unrecognisable.

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Posted 10 August 2004 - 10:12 PM

I may be completely out of the loop here, Babs, but I didn't and still don't know of any children killed or pulverized by 9-11??  Maybe there were some children on the planes, but even that, I don't remember hearing about.  I will have to read up on this some, because if there were, than I am seriously having some problems with my mind..    wacko.gif


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Posted 11 August 2004 - 12:37 AM

As far as i know reese, you are right, there were no children killed or pulverized by 9/11, i have done many searches to see if i could find anything, and not a dicky bird. However i did find this during my search.

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Rahma, a Muslim of Sri Lankan origin, was traveling with her husband Michael (a convert to Islam) to attend a friend's wedding in California.  Rahma was 7 months pregnant with their first child. 
she was on one of the flights that crashed into the trade centers i believe.
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So you see people from all religions and races are mourning their loved ones who tragically died during 9/11.

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 01:42 AM

Thank you for looking that up, Alis..  I also sent a PM to Fluffy asking if he could find anything about children being killed in 9-11.. I have not found anything, and I have been doing search after search tonight...  It is sad, because if that is indeed the only child, that was definately one too many.. It makes me sad...

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 03:09 AM

Targeting children is terrible. Targeting innocents is terrible. Am I clear on this? The last I heard there were children in the towers, along with adults. Don't you know that children used to visit the twin towers?

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 10:45 AM

Babs as i am not from the USA or new york for that matter,so how would i know that children used to visit the twin towers?? anyway if they did, there are no reports i can find stating any children were 'killed or pulverized' during 9/11. as far as i know the children are the victims in the sense, they have lost a parent in the attack.
what im getting at is there are people in the world who should be locked up and the key thrown away for their cowardly crimes against children, these muslim children are children just like any other, and there are whackos out there threatening to smear their blood on the street. the persons involved in the attacks against children are as bad as any terrorist in my opinion. if it were your child being threatened and attacked, how would it feel?? its one thing to pick on an adult, but its totally different when some sickos start targetting children. plain sick

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 11:33 AM

As far as I know Babs, there were no children in the towers.  I believe Alis is right, and the only child lost was still in gestation, and on the plane.  It is extremely sad, each and every person.

You have to be sure not to inflate things in your mind, not distorting the truth.  Out of that lies are born..  What happened Sept. 11th was bad enough, without adding that children were killed and pulverized.  

And, a lot of people were affected, of all races and nationalities.   crying.gif



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Posted 11 August 2004 - 01:03 PM

The reason i only said OMG is that you are so poorly educated about the outside world and so blinkered there is absolutley nothing else to say to you.

You are ignoring all of the facts about safety leveles concerning European country's.

You are ignoring ther fact that YOU are statistically safer in the UK than you are in America yet you comment as if we are backward idiots that do not even understand the security situation in our OWN country's.

Your views on some european country's border on the racist  (you definitly have the daft "freedom fries" mentality that is rife among the illinformed in america).

You do not understand the basic facts regarding other cultures.

You havent even commented on the fact that britain is a safer place to be than america.

You just completley ignore it an  go on some xenophobic rant about your country not telling you that it was unsafe for  americans to be in europe before, this admisnistration....have you ever considered that they could be scaremongering in attempt to win support and that europe is a relativley safe place to liev let alone visit.

YOur paranoia is simply ridiculous.

I want you to PROVE that its unsafe for americans to be in europe.

And dont come away with some incident that took place in denmark 30 years ago ..that for all you know couldve been a hoax ....i mean you only think it was arab terrorists because SOME guy at the harbour told you lol.

Your other quite academic reason was that some middle eastern guy gave you the impression that he was following you in Sweden.

Come on babs do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound.

IN proportion to the amount of americans who travel to europe every year i bet youd find that they were safer here than they were in america.

A country whichi is one of the most dangerous in the world considering every on and their gran has a gun.

You know babs terrorism isnt the only danger in the WORLD. lol lol .

You live your life around it.

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 01:46 PM

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You just completley ignore it an go on some xenophobic rant about your country not telling you that it was unsafe for americans to be in europe before, this admisnistration....have you ever considered that they could be scaremongering in attempt to win support and that europe is a relativley safe place to liev let alone visit.



Wun-  Just so you know...  I have never heard anyone speak that Europe was unsafe, in fact my Mother just got back from an extensive cruise in those regions.  She did say, they were pretty rude to Americans, but that is no surprise to anyone is it?  

Europe is a pretty safe place to live and visit, for Americans.  You are right about that.  No one has put that out publicly, to scare or sway support.  The reason 'Freedom Fries' came about, was an immature attempt to boycott all things French, for lack of support.  Which to this day, I think was terrible.  I am with you on the changing of food names being 'daft', it completely was..  


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Posted 11 August 2004 - 02:07 PM

Yeah reese that wasnt in anyway an attack on americans in general.

Only babs and here stated opinions on europe.

Btw on a sidenot a lot of europeans are rude to americans becasue in general americans (and i am talking from experience) seem to not quite understand that THEY need to accept they are in another country with a distince culture.

They dont seem able to adapt.

In britain the culture is very similar however in the like of france it is very different and they expect you to make little effort which i think is understandable it aint just americans theyll be rude to either.



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Posted 11 August 2004 - 02:32 PM

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Yeah reese that wasnt in anyway an attack on americans in general.



Yes, Wun, I know that.. You write clearly enough, and do not have a history of inflating things, and looking at things one sided.. We may not always agree, but you do have your strong points.  And, you were right on this one.  


I also agree that the reason Americans are treated badly over there, at times, is because of the lack of respect shown, when over there.  I am sorry about that, as I am sure people as civilized as Mother are as well.  It is a shame.  

Then you have the people that cry 'Freedom Fries' which doesn't help either..

One thing to remember is America is not without blame.. We have people that are equally as rude to foreigners as well...  


I hope that you understand that babs absolutely does not stand with the majority of how Americans really think or believe here.  She has a tendancy to inflate things, and hear things that really are not being said or written.  Like the news saying that Bush was leading across the US in polls, or that children were 'killed and pulverized' on Sept.  11th.  

The real deal is that there were children completely affected, many of them, by the actions of Sept. 11th, but they were not killed. (Only one as I know of now) She was right in stating that there have been children in the twin towers over the years upon years of their exsistence, but on that day, as far as I know, there were none.  


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Posted 11 August 2004 - 02:43 PM

I know i have my beliefs but my feelings on terrorism are just as strong as yours if not stronger.

Weve lived in the shadow of it for my whole life and only recenlty things in this country have really improved.

I hate al queada i would love nothing more than to see bin ladens lifeless body strung up in new york.

I hope people know that i think that way.

i just dont believe Iraq was the way to get him or al queada . at all.



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