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[the L]

Hello guys,

...This why I start reading about UFOs in the first place. Hessdalen phenomena is really interesting. If you know anything about Hessdalen  lights in the sky please share your information. I would like to hear your opinion about Hessdalen LITS. (However it is wrong to say Hessdalen LITS since phenomena is more complex then we think.  There are not just LITS there are saucer and cigar shape objects.)If you know about similar story be free to share it. I personaly have two versions. One is that is some nature phenomena like thunder .Second version would be that we have job with “ET” from other dimension. Anyways judge for yourself.

Okay, I will start with this great documentary. For me it is must see. Great documentary. Interesting that they connected pheonomena to the rare earth element Scandium. Interesting that Russians made their airship MIG with Scandium.


youtube.com/watch?v=LIxxJg1tu20
youtube.com/watch?v=9MmB9kOYHEc
youtube.com/watch?v=f49yag7Kwy0
youtube.com/watch?v=CspCz8DVr7Q

Hessdalen on ufoevidence.org:
Hessdalen is a small valley in the central part of Norway. At the end of 1981 through 1984, residents of the Valley became concerned and alarmed about strange, unexplained lights that appeared at many locations throughout the Valley. Hundreds of lights were observed. At the peak of activity there were about 20 reports a week. As no official institute with governmental support in Norway seemed to be interested in these strange lights, five individual researchers began their own research project in 1983: Project Hessdalen. A field investigation was carried out between 21.January and 26.February 1984. Fifty-three light observations were made during the field investigation. Lights are still being observed in the Hessdalen Valley, but their frequency has decreased to about 20 observations a year. An automatic measurement station was put up in Hessdalen in August 1998.

http://www.ufoeviden...cthessdalen.htm
Also you can find some great links on that site.

Video from Hessdalen Automatic Measurement Station:

youtube.com/watch?v=UdFjIwbAKfg

Hessdalen pictures:
http://www.hessdalen.org/pictures/
from project Hessdalen
http://www.hessdalen.org/index_e.shtml

National  Geographic about Hessdalen
http://channel.natio...Videos/07859_00

Hynek in Hessdalen
youtube.com/watch?v=sx5z3_C2XnA

Reports:
http://www.hessdalen...y-April2002.pdf

A radar measured the distance and speed of the
phenomena. The highest speed recorded was on a
light travelling towards the north with a speed of
30.000 km/h. The radar managed to capture the
phenomena, when our eyes saw nothing, while it was
invisible.

The spectrumanalyzer we used measure all the frequencies between 100 KHz and 1200
MHz, and can see if any radio or TV-channels will be disturbed. There was noise
sometimes. The noise had harmonics with 80 MHz between each, which covered the whole
the band. The level of the amplitude moved up and down every 2 seconds (a frequency of
about 0,5 Hz).

Hessdalen - Final technical report 1984
http://www.hessdalen...preport84.shtml

3.7 Laser

We used the laser, and pointed it towards a flashing light, in two different cases, totally 9 times. 8 of these times, there was a reaction.

Massimo Teodorani about Hessdalen
http://www.scientifi...2_teodorani.pdf

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Well now you have something to read  

[booNyzarC]

Awesome post L!

Lot of good information here, and there is more out there.  I'll try to add some later when I have more time.

For anyone wondering about the additional YouTube links in the OP, just copy the link info posted by L (i.e. youtube.com/watch?v=LIxxJg1tu20 under the first video in the OP) and paste it into your browser's Address after the http://

And L, to make it easier on people you might want to create the links so that they are clickable, like so:


Cheers.

[arenee]

Thanks for this post.  I heard of this one a long time ago but forgot about it until now.  I'll have to look up more.

[the L]

@Boony
Thanks Boony. As I said earlier this case really intrest me. Well I tried to put all videos like the first one but there are some restriction. So I deleted "http://www.". I will do it next time.


“We used the laser, and pointed it towards a flashing light, in two different cases, totally 9 times. 8 of these times, there was a reaction.
In the first case, there was a regular flashing light, slowly moving towards north, on Sunday 12 February at 7.35 pm. The flashing had been regular all the time we had seen the light. The light moved slowly. From the first time we saw it in the south, until it disappeared in the north, it took about 15 minutes. When this light was in the northern part of Finns†h›gda, we pointed the laser towards it for the first time. At once, it changed the flashing sequence: From a regular flashing light, it became a regular double-flashing light: Flash.Flash.......Flash.Flash.......Flash.Flash....... After about 10 seconds, we put the laser down, at once it became a regular single-flashing light again:Flash......Flash......Flash...... After about 10 seconds we repeated this again. It was repeated totally 4 times before it went out of sight. All the times, we got this double-flashing, when the laser was pointing at it.”

Hessdalen - Final technical report 1984

What do you say about this. Sign of intelligence ? Science call that photo-reactive capability.

It is interesting that we capture phenomena on the radar yet it was invisible to our eyes.
The light phenomenon often shows strong radar tracks, including when it is optically faint or almost invisible. In some cases in which it is visible, it shows no radar track.

There are cases where Large light ball eject small light ball. That is interesting.

In some cases there are like solid objects.

In some cases we have different colors-for example one big white light with one small blue light and with one small red light.

Also speed and movement of different colors are different.

Lightballs in 5% cases join togheter creating geometrical triangulr shape.

Light phenomena shows in the sky and on the ground.

The light phenomenon is always preceded by very short-lasting flashes.

Night vision systems revealed that the light phenomenon produces a very strong infrared signature even when it is very faint or invisible in the optical range.

The light phenomenon is suspected of being able to release spherical iron particles onto the ground.

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And its all scientifically  proven by project Hessdalen and project EMBLA.

Edited by the L, 05 January 2011 - 11:11 PM.

[arenee]

L Where did it say that we captured phenomena on the radar but couldn't see it with our eyes?  I missed that one...or am I just not understanding?  It is also interesting about the large ball ejecting a small one.

[the L]

arenee, on 05 January 2011 - 10:52 PM, said:

L Where did it say that we captured phenomena on the radar but couldn't see it with our eyes?  I missed that one...or am I just not understanding?  It is also interesting about the large ball ejecting a small one.

Invisible to our eyes.
http://www.hessdalen...y-April2002.pdf
page 3
under 2)

also you can find that here same as small ball ejecting a small one.

http://www.scientifi...2_teodorani.pdf
Page 233
Under title:
Ejection of mini light ball

[arenee]

Thank you very much, still looking for the ejected ball though.

[the L]

arenee, on 06 January 2011 - 12:00 AM, said:

Thank you very much, still looking for the ejected ball though.

You will find it. In that link I gave you. What really scared me is that these light phenomenan are able to appear and disappear to our eyes. Yes they are there but they have like some switch "off" and "on". Also fact that they are able to land to the ground. I can already imagine situations like someone walks trough the wood then see trough the trees some pulsating light on ground. I would be scared as hell.

Also it is interesting that very short lasting flashes that preceded phenomenan. There are stories where people say that they saw flashes circa 5 meter of them. Then they saw light pheonomena.

And stories about lights on solid objects are scaring.

Ofcourse most intriguing part is photo-reactive capability.

Edited by the L, 06 January 2011 - 12:34 AM.

[arenee]

the L, on 06 January 2011 - 12:17 AM, said:

You will find it. In that link I gave you. What really scared me is that these light phenomenan are able to appear and disappear to our eyes. Yes they are there but they have like some switch "off" and "on". Also fact that they are able to land to the ground. I can already imagine situations like someone walks trough the wood then see trough the trees some pulsating light on ground. I would be scared as hell.

I just found it.  Sorry I'm a slow reader.  Why does it scare you that they can turn off and on? I feel like it's the same as any craft that lands and is unidentifiable.  I think it's only normal to be "scared as hell," but also very intriguing.  One wonders if they'd run or come in for a closer look.

[psyche101]

Fascinating, good compilation L.



The invisible ones are very interesting aren't they. Could explain many radar claims.

[booNyzarC]

arenee, on 06 January 2011 - 12:00 AM, said:

Thank you very much, still looking for the ejected ball though.

You can see a ball being absorbed on this video.  Pretty cool stuff.

[arenee]

booNyzarC, on 06 January 2011 - 12:40 AM, said:

You can see a ball being absorbed on this video.  Pretty cool stuff.

My mom and sister once told me that they saw an orange light coming out of my bedroom window and as it got higher in the sky it separated into two orbs of light.  I wish I could have seen it.  Interesting video clip though.

[the L]

psyche101, on 06 January 2011 - 12:33 AM, said:

Fascinating, good compilation L.



The invisible ones are very interesting aren't they. Could explain many radar claims.

Thanks psyche. Invisible are intresting indeed. As many things about Light phenomena.

What I really dont understand is this:

The spectrumanalyzer we used measure all the frequencies between 100 KHz and 1200
MHz, and can see if any radio or TV-channels will be disturbed. There was noise
sometimes. The noise had harmonics with 80 MHz between each, which covered the whole
the band. The level of the amplitude moved up and down every 2 seconds (a frequency of
about 0,5 Hz).

this:

"The light phenomenon is often accompanied by a pulsating magnetic
perturbation with a period of few Hz and by small and very-short-duration
pulsating ‘‘spikes’’ in the HF radio ranges"

and this:


Sometimes long-lasting Doppler-like signals are recorded in the VLF range,
mostly when the light phenomenon is not visible.


Here also  something interesting about ejecting smaller balls from the same site I gave before:
Luminosity increases in a drastic way because of the sudden appearance of
many small light balls around a larger luminous core. The luminosity increase
is caused only by the dimensional increase of the composite light surface formed by the cluster of light balls.
Some of these secondary light balls are
often ejected from the core.

[psyche101]

the L, on 06 January 2011 - 12:45 AM, said:

Thanks psyche. Invisible are intresting indeed. As many things about Light phenomena.

What I really dont understand is this:

The spectrumanalyzer we used measure all the frequencies between 100 KHz and 1200
MHz, and can see if any radio or TV-channels will be disturbed. There was noise
sometimes. The noise had harmonics with 80 MHz between each, which covered the whole
the band. The level of the amplitude moved up and down every 2 seconds (a frequency of
about 0,5 Hz).

this:

"The light phenomenon is often accompanied by a pulsating magnetic
perturbation with a period of few Hz and by small and very-short-duration
pulsating ‘‘spikes’’ in the HF radio ranges"

and this:


Sometimes long-lasting Doppler-like signals are recorded in the VLF range,
mostly when the light phenomenon is not visible.


Here also  something interesting about ejecting smaller balls from the same site I gave before:
Luminosity increases in a drastic way because of the sudden appearance of
many small light balls around a larger luminous core. The luminosity increase
is caused only by the dimensional increase of the composite light surface formed by the cluster of light balls.
Some of these secondary light balls are
often ejected from the core.

Radio harmonics are additional frequencies that are a a multiple integer of the original frequency. (eg Freq 1 = 150 Hz, Freq 2 = 300 Hz, Freq 4 = 450 Hz, Freq 5 = 600 Hz and so on) The wavy lines on paper that show the strength of the signal is the amplitude, so it got stronger and weaker - slightly by the sound of it. (You have probably seen RMS on a music stereo ID card at some time, that is the total distance between the peak and trough of this wave)
Occasionally they managed to pick up on some unknown "radio noise" that carried the aforementioned harmonics.
If I understand what they are saying about the doppler effect, they are picking up on a signal that appears to "Pass by them" - gets louder and then quieter like an approaching vehicle that goes past you and down the road. (VLF = Very Low Frequency Range)

The small balls of light that increase in luminosity bring laser light to mind, a different thing, but still a concentration of light. Perhaps something similar to a recent observation where light was reflected upon itself in a curved environment to make many photons act like a single large one.
Link - Sea of photons made to act as one 'super-photon'

Fascinating L, real food for thought there. Good thread

[psyche101]

booNyzarC, on 06 January 2011 - 12:40 AM, said:

You can see a ball being absorbed on this video.  Pretty cool stuff.

Good one Boon, thanks for sharing.

Top vid that one.