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Help clarify this Hy-Brasil/Atlantis thing?


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#151    kinbur

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 09:45 PM

Well i guess not i find the whole topic very interesting and hope we can find out more about the mysterious island. the island is almost circular as well so that could be where the whole idea of it being completely circular came from because the maps back then were not particularly accurate. The person who posted it said he/she has more pictures i wonder if he/she went on the island.
I also see no advanced civilization, magicians tower or giant black rabbits.

Edited by kinbur, 10 January 2013 - 09:57 PM.


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Posted 12 January 2013 - 06:50 PM

View Postkinbur, on 10 January 2013 - 07:15 PM, said:

I know this thread is quite old now but i wanted to share this as it seems not to have been posted already but this is apparently what the island looks like but there is no confirmation.
http://www.panoramio.../photo/54594056
I found it when typing in the coordinates of the island stated in the ancient aliens TV show.

It's fake. It's picture of Darwin island of Galapagos. Here is original source:

http://www.migramar....h_1680x1050.jpg

Darwin Island:

http://en.wikipedia....i/Darwin_Island


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Posted 12 January 2013 - 06:58 PM

They traveled far, these Irish, lol.


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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:25 PM

They sure did...


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Posted 05 August 2013 - 02:04 PM

View PostErudite Celt, on 26 May 2012 - 11:35 PM, said:

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I personally think that the two Skellig Islands are the most likly candidates for Hy-Brasil.


Hello I am new here

I read most of this topic although I could have missed something (reading all of it in 2 hours)

In 1980 I discovered Inis Oirr and since 2001 I visit this island every year, which is the smallest of the 3 Aran islands in Galwaybay

It must have been in 2002 that I was walking in the south of the island looking into SW direction when I saw an island out there that I did not see before. In the evening I went to the local pub where I told my observation to the natives
They were not impressed and told me
"Ohh you saw Hi Brazil, it appears very 6 or 7 years"

After that I never saw the island again, but I will go to Inis Oirr next oct.

I remember a story of one of you who talked to a priest who also said 6 or 7 years
anyways, I do not believe the two Skellig Islands ara the solution

I remember there is a documentary about hi brazil made by TG4
but I cannot find it back

Edited by calan, 05 August 2013 - 02:56 PM.


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 06:03 PM

Salazar's account of Bristol's discovery of the Island of Brasil (pre 1476)


http://www.bris.ac.u.../1476brasil.htm


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 12:40 PM

very interesting book about this topic
although expensive
some pages you can read here

http://www.amazon.co...s/dp/9042036419


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 06:22 PM

...time to walk away and put the paddles down. Your attempts to resurrect this dead thread seem not to be working.

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 07:59 AM

we will see!


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 02:06 PM

On the subject of whether there was any earthquake or tsunami activity in the 1700's that might account for the disappearance of Hy-Brasil... I havent read all of the posts, so maybe someone has covered this already. But I did some searching on Google and I encountered this website:

http://www.politics....is-ireland.html

Basically, in 1755 and 1761 there was two major earthquakes in the sea just west of Lisbon in Portugal. Aside from laying waste to Lisbon and any nearby areas, the tremors and the tsunamis that followed were experienced throughout the whole of Europe (or at least as far away as Holland, Norway and Sweden). There seem to be some disagreement on how extensive the damage was in Ireland and the UK. However, I found this bit to be quite interesting:

"As per the Site of the Irish Marine Institute: On November 1st, 1755, a series of tsunamis lasting more than seven hours tore at the south west coast of Ireland, “wrecking fishing boats around Kinsale” and “even damaging coastal buildings as far north as Galway Bay”

In any case, if southern Ireland was adversely affected by these events, then I can only imagine what it would do to the relatively small and remote island of Hy-Brasil. I guess it also depends on the layout of the island itself...

If for example it was a low lying, flat island relatively close to the sea level, then perhaps the repeated tsunamis simply washed it away? Or if we assume it was a volcanic island - could the 1755 or 1761 earthquakes have triggered a volcanic eruption, or perhaps the shifting of the tectonic plates caused the island to sink?

I found an interesting article that relates to this subject: http://news.yahoo.co...-123652503.html

Of course, this is only relevant if we assume that the island really was an island, and not a UFO or some such...


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 10:04 PM

Hy-Brasil?

Go Here:


https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u-INPAe2DUWgNWunDGaaiKXEFxY0aHrtlccYgqsdbiI/pub

(Just posted on Google Docs.


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Posted 02 February 2014 - 01:47 PM

Hy-Brasil?

Document edited. Go here instead:



https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LeNcNsNRPGa_SKa9ggWkJsnSrXfTc_cjESLXZUtieaE/pub


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Posted 02 February 2014 - 04:29 PM

View Postcalan, on 05 August 2013 - 02:04 PM, said:

In 1980 I discovered Inis Oirr and since 2001 I visit this island every year, which is the smallest of the 3 Aran islands in Galwaybay

It must have been in 2002 that I was walking in the south of the island looking into SW direction when I saw an island out there that I did not see before. In the evening I went to the local pub where I told my observation to the natives
They were not impressed and told me
"Ohh you saw Hi Brazil, it appears very 6 or 7 years"


The top of Mt. Brandon, on the Irish mainland in Dingle, should be just above the horizon to the southwest of Inis Oirr. It's possible that it's only occasionally visible.

Sadly, local people in pubs are not always truthful, especially to vacationers.

Edited by PersonFromPorlock, 02 February 2014 - 04:31 PM.


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Posted 03 February 2014 - 11:20 AM

Hello PersonFromPorlock,

Can you recall with any degree of accuracy where you were when you saw ... whatever you saw? (Were you on the shoreline, in a car on a road (and which road), in front of a particular pub, or whatever?) This would help approximate your eye-above-sea level.

Inis Oirr is, at most, 197' high. If you are 6' tall, add, 5.75', giving an eye level of 203.75' above sea level--meaning that the (naked-eye) horizon would be a maximum of 17.5 miles away. If you are standing on the shoreline, that distance would be reduced to less than 3 miles. Given the fairly specific direction you give, of "SW," that presents a very small area of sea and so close to land, in which to hide an island. If there was one there, or anything at all just below the surface, everybody would know about it. (There would have to be a lighthouse on it.) I think this makes my case, that 'Ui-Breasil is not a place, but an effect --of light, temperature, and humidity, etc.

(I can't figure out why, and I'm trying to sort it out, but the link I gave in my earlier posts keeps displaying a superseded version of my document, "Hy-Brasil: Myth, Fact--or Aliens?" The correct version is 1.02.01.


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Posted 03 February 2014 - 06:47 PM

View PostDukeAlion, on 03 February 2014 - 11:20 AM, said:

Hello PersonFromPorlock,

Can you recall with any degree of accuracy where you were when you saw ... whatever you saw? (Were you on the shoreline, in a car on a road (and which road), in front of a particular pub, or whatever?) This would help approximate your eye-above-sea level.

Inis Oirr is, at most, 197' high. If you are 6' tall, add, 5.75', giving an eye level of 203.75' above sea level--meaning that the (naked-eye) horizon would be a maximum of 17.5 miles away. If you are standing on the shoreline, that distance would be reduced to less than 3 miles. Given the fairly specific direction you give, of "SW," that presents a very small area of sea and so close to land, in which to hide an island. If there was one there, or anything at all just below the surface, everybody would know about it. (There would have to be a lighthouse on it.) I think this makes my case, that 'Ui-Breasil is not a place, but an effect --of light, temperature, and humidity, etc.

(I can't figure out why, and I'm trying to sort it out, but the link I gave in my earlier posts keeps displaying a superseded version of my document, "Hy-Brasil: Myth, Fact--or Aliens?" The correct version is 1.02.01.

Good questions, but they should be directed to 'calan'. FYI, I used the equation:

distance to horizon (in nautical miles) = 1.23 X square root of the height of the object (in feet).

For a very rough calculation, I used a height of 3000 feet for Mt. Brandon and ignored the height of the observer. More precisely, taking Mt. Brandon as being 3000 ft high and the observer's eyes being 200 ft high, the mountain would be on the observer's horizon from just under 85 nautical miles away. Since Inis Oirr is ~65 nm from the mountain, it should be well above the horizon unless obscured by haze.





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