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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:15 PM

View PostXingWi, on 07 February 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

Maybe I didn't express it properly. When speaking of our beliefs and differences between them, I meant only what pertains to the origin of shadow demons from hell, in particular. From what I have read about your experiences that you have posted earlier in this thread, I am able to interpret your particular belief in this area. And this is where I agree with you that they come from hell. Otherwise there are a lot of differences between our beliefs. You mentioned "tara" earlier for instance... well, I am a big critic of Buddhism. You have mentioned Dante's inferno... well, I think it is either fraud or manipulated and overblown to confirm to a bigoted view of a particular group. I also believe that many saints have misinterpreted their "visions" of hell because I believe that the hell that the scriptures speak of is different from the sorrowful realm of the lower planes that those saints have experienced. Well it goes on... but lets put aside these differences for now and focus on what we agree on. The origin of shadow demons. "Hell". Their connection to Satan. Yes, that answers a whole lot of questions. I'm also interested to know if you have met Satan himself. And by that I mean the devil and not a devil among the devils.

You are expressing yourself just fine; I'm the delirious one here (pain medication etc.) Tara was just a girl who really wanted to become  a monk so I have a lot of respect for her. Making her a god and how various entities evil or divine can take advantage of that is another issue (I don't remember what I said in this thread). Buddhism is  a cover for their version of a secret society as is Christianity, Taoism, Hindu etc.--they all have much to hide so I trust none of them based on my own research. Islam is a bit different but lacks discernment from the beginning...but enough about religions; I've lost interest in all of them. Dante was a Artist so I put him on another level left to the interpretation of readers, right or wrong. When you talk of saints I find that interesting. If you already know the truth you can easily see how honest they are and how accurate they are or when they cave to their institution of choice. Moving on...there is a huge difference between a Devil and demons, but you seem to know that. The king of devils, or Satan, might be a required experience at some point.  He seemed confined, in my experience, to his golden hall where he has his golden throne from where he easily conducts events around the world.  BTW it was interesting to learn that the indigenous culture from where I used to live had old stories that paralleled everything I experienced. But I think all cultures do that to a certain extent. So, before doing any research, I was brought before Satan to test my reaction. I was impressed and wanted to learn but reflexively brought God down into the situation then satan cowered and I was ejected from the location. My impression was he was no longer as powerful as a devil with more mobility, like one who would rule these shadow entities.

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Mark, I think your case adds more strength to your viewpoint because you have experienced hell without believing in it. That stops anyone from countering it by claiming that you have experienced it only because of your particular belief or particular mindset. I believe that hell exists whether you believe in it or not. I have collected countless accounts of people who were "taken" to "hell" by shadow entities, their actual domain, and those include accounts of children who were totally unaware of any such idea, leave alone their belief in any heaven or hell.

Agreed, and I have nothing to prove.

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"Puzzle" about the astral/eternal. Tell you what, I have been banging my head on the wall over this for 20 years now and this is the question that still bothers me most. Although, I have reasons to believe that the lower plane is subject to death and destruction just like the physical realm. I believe that eventually it will cease to exist. And the wretched among its inhabitants will themselves face punishment in hell once all this is done with. You are entitled to disagee though.

I agree. Sort of like Earth will cease to exist.  I guess God could reduce hell to a single element like a lake of fire and then the eternal beings would have nowhere to go, but that's just speculation on my part. I am more inclined to think that since they thrive on destruction they might even enjoy the destruction of their own habitat. It's all so mixed up with earth at the moment(like Jinn) I think it adds to the suffering: hot cold wet dry foggy burning ice etc. these are things people can relate to...more speculation.

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What are the side effects and surgeries you are speaking about? You mean that the torment extended to the physical realm? If possible please share. I don't believe in what those "mystics" say either. What if they are themselves deceived? many among them tend to lull themselves into believing something that goes right against human intuition. Over-optimism and self-deception, neither of these two can stop the real harm that is coming your way.

Yeah it all bleeds over into your physical life. Even if successful in other realms they can still hit you where you live, physically.


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View PostFirebearer, on 15 January 2013 - 11:13 PM, said:

I just joined this website because honestly i have a very bad feeling of what i believe is about to happen. i will also mention some people i know but their identity's will remain anonymous. In this post i will tell my story of the experiences i dealt with in contact with the Hooded Man, (or Hatman). whether anyone chooses to believe it or not is up to them. but this is my story.

It all started when i was six years old. i remember my father chasing me up the stairs to our two-story house in Hazard Kentucky. he would say that hes going to get me or the montser is going to get me. there was one night he was doing something and he told me to go on to bed. so as i always did, i "monkey-climbed" up the set of stairs we had that went to my bedroom. i heard something. when i turned around i saw a figure. it looked like a man very tall and dark, with a hood looking thing on his head. he also had a deck of cards in his hands he was shuffling them. i just looked down and stared at the strange man in my house until the entity made eye contact. my whole body froze and i was scared. then i whisper to myself, "your'e not real, your'e not real." and when i look again he smiles at me then he dissapears. i told my father about the incident but i was 6. i "tend to make things up". i then had night-terrors for weeks. and all of a sudden it stopped. and i never saw the hooded man again for 7 years.


i was 13, it was my first year of  7th grade in junior high school. i know longer lived in the same house in Hazard. i then lived in Middleburg Florida. it was September. i remember it very well. i went through a surgery and i started having nightmares after it. i thought it was nothing, just trauma form post-surgery. little did i know i was dead wrong. after weeks of nightmares and not a lot of sleep i developed what i thought was Insomnia, and after 3 months i couldn't tell what was fake and what was reality. i continuously had this re-occurring nightmare. I was trapped in a maze. there were was all around me. the walls were covered in a maroon colored blood. i would run the the impossible maze not knowing which way to turn it was so dark and finally i would escape. and again i would be surrounded in darkness. i look around and then thats when i see him. the Hooded man. i turn around and run back towards the direction of the maze and its gone and he is there in front of me. i turn around and start running. i dont know where but anywhere but to him. i run and i run but the harder and faster i run the slower i get. then i cant breath and he comes closer and he catches me.

one night when i was 13, i had that dream but instead of me just waking up from a nightmare, i wake up and he was standing right infront of my bed. i blinked for a split second and he was on top of me. i couldnt breathe or move any part of my body. i just layed there with the hooded man on top of me until i could force the words " GET OUT". and then i could move. and the hooded figure was gone. the nightmares stopped and i thought it was over.


then here i am at 16. i thought it was all over. but i think i am wrong. the nightmares are kicking themselves back up again and i am seeing Him again. i was recently talking to an old friend and she mentioned something to me about having a death wish. i am very scared and very worried about the upcoming nights and i am having a lot of trouble sleeping. i am getting to the point again where i don't know the difference between dreams and reality. if there is anyone out there who can provide me with tips or answers i desperately need your help. if u can u can email me at *snip* but please i want help. i dont know if i can take another encounter with that fiend.
Im sorry I did not get to this earlier, you are experiencing a classic sleep paralysis event and altered states, I have got some tips for you to defeat this thing but this is not not the place to discuss it. Feel free to pm me.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 01:02 PM

View Postmarkprice, on 07 February 2013 - 11:15 PM, said:

You are expressing yourself just fine; I'm the delirious one here (pain medication etc.) Tara was just a girl who really wanted to become  a monk so I have a lot of respect for her. Making her a god and how various entities evil or divine can take advantage of that is another issue (I don't remember what I said in this thread). Buddhism is  a cover for their version of a secret society as is Christianity, Taoism, Hindu etc.--they all have much to hide so I trust none of them based on my own research. Islam is a bit different but lacks discernment from the beginning...but enough about religions; I've lost interest in all of them. Dante was a Artist so I put him on another level left to the interpretation of readers, right or wrong. When you talk of saints I find that interesting. If you already know the truth you can easily see how honest they are and how accurate they are or when they cave to their institution of choice. Moving on...there is a huge difference between a Devil and demons, but you seem to know that. The king of devils, or Satan, might be a required experience at some point.  He seemed confined, in my experience, to his golden hall where he has his golden throne from where he easily conducts events around the world. BTW it was interesting to learn that the indigenous culture from where I used to live had old stories that paralleled everything I experienced. But I think all cultures do that to a certain extent. So, before doing any research, I was brought before Satan to test my reaction. I was impressed and wanted to learn but reflexively brought God down into the situation then satan cowered and I was ejected from the location. My impression was he was no longer as powerful as a devil with more mobility, like one who would rule these shadow entities.


That's very interesting. The golden hall and the golden throne. The description seems to match with what many other experiencers have witnessed. Some add to this description that his aura is golden too. Some others have also witnessed some of the events that take place in there.

It is no wonder that many other cultures describe it the same way. Conversely, it makes more sense that Parallel "mythologies" across different cultures that had no ways to communicate with one another, must have had a common real source rather than just plagiarism of one from the other.


View Postmarkprice, on 07 February 2013 - 11:15 PM, said:

I agree. Sort of like Earth will cease to exist.  I guess God could reduce hell to a single element like a lake of fire and then the eternal beings would have nowhere to go, but that's just speculation on my part. I am more inclined to think that since they thrive on destruction they might even enjoy the destruction of their own habitat. It's all so mixed up with earth at the moment(like Jinn) I think it adds to the suffering: hot cold wet dry foggy burning ice etc. these are things people can relate to...more speculation.


That's a very good point you have made. I was curious if you would bring this up. It's all mixed-up with earth (like Jinn). Like you, even I believe that there is a mix up with "Jinn" in the sense how this term has begun to be used among the public, and how it is being misused by certain authors/researchers.

I'm not saying shadows are not Jinn. They are Jinn of course. But then according to the middle-eastern traditions, every creation from the spirit realm that is not an angel can be called a Jinn. So familiars can be called jinn, just as the devil and his minions can be called Jinn. Even non-sentient entities from the spirit world can be called Jinn. So a term so generic when used for shadow entities conveys nothing about what they specifically are. So calling shadow demons as Jinn is just as specific as calling sulfuric acid as liquid, a term that can be used for milk as well.

Now this is where lies the confusion. The term Jinn has begun to be used now in public predominantly for certain sentient "terrestrial" spirits that have equal capacity to be good and evil. But the problem is, these shadow entities are unlike any "terrestrial" spirit. They exist at a much higher level, they belong to an entirely different world. They work at a very different level, right through your consciousness. Not only human consciousness but also through the consciousness of any "terrestrial" spirit.

The subject of shadows forms an important part of theology especially eschatology, so comparative theology has always been of interest to me. And for that I have been seeking  expert theologians from various religions and exchanging information with them for a long time. The middle-eastern theologians I discussed with, know very well what shadows are and they also have specific names for them. Shayatin/Shayateen and Qareen. They prefer to use these names rather than calling them just Jinns, well obviously for discernment. Shayatin is used for individual shadows and Qareen for self-shadow a part of you (the type of shadow that was mentioned by Carl Jung). Their theologians have always associated individual shadows with the devil and have always attributed evil to the self-shadows. As for their public, well they are masses and lack the knowledge of their own traditions and can lack discernment just like the masses of any other culture.

This is a Muslim website that speaks of the devil's shadow (shadows according to their tradition are related to the devil):

http://www.cureofbla.../devils-shadow/

This is another Muslim article that speaks of the second type of shadow, the self-shadow:

http://www.quraniche...nn-the-2nd-you/

(The second article is very cheesy and the author is a poor researcher. He has made some errors and has even given a link to an illusionary magic trick Ha Ha!. I quoted the link only as it mentions self-shadows and has some interesting pictures.)

A better article on self-shadows is here on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qareen

So the middle-eastern traditions are very clear about these entities and have specific names for them. But sadly, only "Jinn" is being propagated by some western researchers. And I think this "mixing up" is part of the reason why many westerners are inclined to attribute benevolence to shadow entities. It is for this reason I do not prefer to call them Jinn not because they do not belong to the category but because how it is being used now predominantly for certain other entities.

It is very interesting to see how changing the name of these entities from Shayatin and taking it to the general level and calling them Jinn can shift the perception of masses about them, just like the misleading term "shadow people" itself. Was it really nescessary to invent this new misleading name "shadow people" when we already had scores of names for them? Yet this new name has somehow become popular overriding all the previous names against all odds. Can the popularization of this new name be a scheme of shadows themselves to shift the beliefs of the masses? You must be thinking I'm paranoid for suspecting global scheming in this, but trust me, from what I have seen and how deceptively they can work through the consciousnesses of the masses, I wouldn't be surprised if it is really a part of their scheme.



View Postmarkprice, on 07 February 2013 - 11:15 PM, said:

Yeah it all bleeds over into your physical life. Even if successful in other realms they can still hit you where you live, physically.

IMO <-------to ward off skeptical arguments.

Yes, I'm aware of the effects of astral on the physical. Like cascading or precipitation from top to bottom or from the inside to the outside. But again top bottom and inside outside are just words just like suffering, sorrow, pain, agony, remorse and so on… and I agree with you that no words can ever describe the actual torment.

Mark, if it is inconvenient for you to carry on the discussion now then you can do it later after you recover from the surgeries.

Take care.


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Posted 09 February 2013 - 05:19 PM

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 11:03 AM

I read almost all of this thread and was surprised to find it was still going as late as last week.
I moved into a trailer last year and had the feeling of being watched through two different windows as well as the mirrors, also a back bedroom that we hardly used. It felt slightly malicious, and occasionally the hair on my neck would stand up and the dogs would growl. My roommate sometimes felt it, too, but not as much as me.
My grandfather passed away last summer, and I moved. About a week later, my son came running out of our room scared to death, complaining about "The man with the hat" looking in through the window. I told him it was probably granddad, but he was sure it wasn't. After that he was afraid every night at bedtime, and when he comes here to visit, he doesn't like to be in any room alone. We have a skylight in the bathroom and he was worried that someone could watch him through it.
I took my oldest home and brought my youngest here. Without ever having a chance to talk to his brother about this, he, too, worried complained that there was someone watching through the window almost every night. Both of them when visiting are very hesitant about going to sleep in that room without lots of lights.
As for me, I often have the distinct impression that I am being watched in there. It comes from the window, the closet, and the vent. I don't see anything, but I feel like I am being watched quite intently. I sometimes wake with this same feeling. I have had nightmares where I woke up with the sleep paralysis and the feeling of being watched. I turn the light on and stay up until dawn.
I have often "seen" shadow people out of the corner of my eye. I still don't like mirrors. There is one in particular in the hallway facing my room that bothers me.
I am prone to depression and the negative feelings that entails, and I have been questioning my life a lot--for quite a while now. The house was full of sorrow in the wake of granddad's death, but when we lived in the original trailer, there was nothing particularly negative going on--although I did have a very bad experience a few months after moving in that set of my depression initially, and the feelings of being watched seemed to get more intense after that. I had bad nightmares and insomnia for a while, especially after everyone had moved out but me; now, here, insomnia has been a problem, and nightmares are occasionally a problem--often with the sleep paralysis and the watched feeling afterwards.
I was discussing parasitic attachments with someone, stumbled across the idea of shadow people, and honed right in on these stories about the Hat Man. It's odd that so many people had seen this figure and that my son had as well; at age 7, he is too young to have picked up this image somewhere, so I know he must have seen soemthing or thought he did. When he told me about the figure, he didn't give much detail, but in my mind I saw a man in a beige 3-peice suit, with a brimmed hat--very similar to how my grandfather dressed, but not him. I don't know if what my son saw was the same, but I have long shown signs of being an empath and if I were to question him I would not be surprised if I was right. It is just so strange to see so many people describe seeing something similar.

I have seen a "shadow person" myself only once. It was not black, though, or white. It was gray and rather translucent. I woke from a normal dream and it was standing in the middle of my room, a few feet from my bed, just watching me. I sat up and just looked at it, and it looked at me--and I tried to "feel" it, to see if I could sense any malicious energy. I couldn't. What I felt off of him was... a sense of imposition--that he was imposing, or that I was imposing, uncertainty as if he was surprised or didn't know what to do, fear, and again not malice but sort of a sense that he would defend himself if he had to? His shape was just a man, with no features, no expression; he sort of misted away after a few minutes. I thought my mind was playing tricks on me but whenever I recall this, it was just too fully shaped to have been a trick of the mind or the light. I don't think it was a ghost because I did get the feeling that it was intelligent. When it left, I got up and warded my door and the door to my kids' room, and it never came back.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 11:16 AM

Also, I have been Pagan for about 16 years now and have always been drawn to the Occult and the supernatural. I do some basic ritual work and casting, mainly herbs, candle, and gemstone magic, and I read Tarot cards as well.

I think what we have in common seems to be 1) an interest in the mysteries, or we wouldn't be here and 2) high sensitivity to emotions, feelings, auras, and just prescenses in general. I've read that non-human beings are drawn to empaths, for two reasons 1) they emit a lot of energy and 2) they are easier to make contact with. A history of abuse, depression, etc. seems to be common but not required; the main requirement seems to be, plain and simple, a high amount of empathy.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 11:35 AM

Another note is that... when in other places, like when I go to my hometown to visit, I don't feel anything;  I felt it in the trailer, and now here--but when I travel, I don't feel it.

There is more to this, but I'd rather like to share it when the sun is up. Just thinking about it gives me the creeps.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 08:44 PM

So here's the rest, and I apologize for posting so many times in a row.

I had a particularly frightening dream about two weeks ago, in which I was sitting in the living room with my grandmother when I spotted a person watching through the window. It had features, and yet it didn't--if that makes any sense? It wasn't wearing anything that I recall, and it had a human coloring at first. I stared at it, and it became more like a shadow. I started screaming for her to call 911, and it grinned at me, this mocking, malicious smile. It felt like pure evil was looking at me, and I got the very distinct impression that it not only wanted to come in, but could come in and intended to. It disappeared, and I had the feeling that it was heading for a door in. When I woke up, I couldn't move at first, and then I felt for the rest of the evening as if I were being watched--with this lingering feeling of evil around.

Two days later my grandma fell down and busted her arm pretty bad, coincidentally.

It's probably just a simple nightmare, but I don't usually dream of things like this even in nightmares, one on one confrontations with creatures like that. I'm known for having more more horrific, grotesque nightmares than this, so it stands out that this would frighten me so much. It's got to be one of the mildest nightmares I've had, and yet the sense of evil and malicious intent was very intense.

I'm going to be safeguarding my house and myself, which I've been neglecting to do as nothing has ever really bothered me before. Provided I'm not just imagining things, I do believe it's here for energy, to feed off of fear; possibly it is dangerous, but I don't know.

I've had my dog for ten years, and I heard her bark in that time frame maybe twice in all the places we've lived. Since we got here, she barks all the time. She stands on the porch and barks at nothing; she barks in the house at nothing and seems anxious. Either she suddenly discovered she had a voice coincidentally, or there's something about this place that makes her anxious.


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Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:33 PM

View Postlyanesse, on 15 February 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

Also, I have been Pagan for about 16 years now and have always been drawn to the Occult and the supernatural. I do some basic ritual work and casting, mainly herbs, candle, and gemstone magic, and I read Tarot cards as well.

I think what we have in common seems to be 1) an interest in the mysteries, or we wouldn't be here and 2) high sensitivity to emotions, feelings, auras, and just prescenses in general. I've read that non-human beings are drawn to empaths, for two reasons 1) they emit a lot of energy and 2) they are easier to make contact with. A history of abuse, depression, etc. seems to be common but not required; the main requirement seems to be, plain and simple, a high amount of empathy.

Tarot cards are a wealth of occult(secret) information and they do form a connection with something in the subconscious, so be careful to learn and never misuse them.

Also trust your dog and meditate in the direction of its barking to see what you can--Empathy.

I was in the ICU a few weeks ago while an old woman died next to me behind a curtain. She was placed on the respirator, which she always refused when she was conscious, to keep her alive until her family arrived while a young priest sat across from me waiting to give a last prayer. As she lay dying something  strange happened: the room darkened as something entered. It was a shadow being, or devil, that had come for her. They all said what a great woman she had been as she was taken into the darkness. I was just thinking Holy Crap! when I heard: "soon it will be your time".

I don't make this stuff up because I know how true it can be.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:26 AM

Believe me, I know. My empathy and my intuition have been heightened since I began using the tarot cards a few years ago. They are definitely honing a connection to my subconscious. When I started reading for others, it was hit or miss. Now my accuracy astounds even me. Besides knowing the meanings, it's like I "hear" what they are saying for the person. What would you consider as misusing them, by the way?

And that is a freaky story. Do you think it just showed up because someone was dying, and she was vulnerable--or that maybe she wasn't such a great person, and it had come to claim her?


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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:04 AM

View Postmarkprice, on 16 February 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

I was in the ICU a few weeks ago while an old woman died next to me behind a curtain. She was placed on the respirator, which she always refused when she was conscious, to keep her alive until her family arrived while a young priest sat across from me waiting to give a last prayer. As she lay dying something  strange happened: the room darkened as something entered. It was a shadow being, or devil, that had come for her. They all said what a great woman she had been as she was taken into the darkness. I was just thinking Holy Crap! when I heard: "soon it will be your time".

I don't make this stuff up because I know how true it can be.

I'm sure you've read this already during your research when writing your book, but I'm adding this in support of your recent experience for the benefit of the readers: Shadow sightings near death-beds, accident sights, and cemeteries is pretty common. It is so common that based on these sightings near death beds and the carrying of people to "hell" by shadow demons during their NDEs or other occassions, a full-fledged eschatology of eastern religions like Hinduism, Jainism and Indo-Tibetan Buddhism has been formed. Shadow demons are called yamadoot (literal translation: messengers from the lord death (i.e. carriers of the soul to "hell")). Satan has entered in these religions as yamaraja (lord of death). Unlike Christianity, they do not ascribe evil or rebellion of God to Satan and instead believe that he is appointed by higher gods themselves as a keeper of "hell" and he is just doing his job. In this form he is worshipped as one of their dieties along with hundreds of other dieties they have.

So about your book... I have a question: What is it actually about? Is it your autobiography or includes the experiences of other people as well?


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Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:19 PM

A little typo in the above post: yamadoot = messengers from the lord of death (and not lord death)


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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:44 PM

View Postlyanesse, on 18 February 2013 - 10:26 AM, said:

Believe me, I know. My empathy and my intuition have been heightened since I began using the tarot cards a few years ago. They are definitely honing a connection to my subconscious. When I started reading for others, it was hit or miss. Now my accuracy astounds even me. Besides knowing the meanings, it's like I "hear" what they are saying for the person. What would you consider as misusing them, by the way?

And that is a freaky story. Do you think it just showed up because someone was dying, and she was vulnerable--or that maybe she wasn't such a great person, and it had come to claim her?

I would consider a misuse of Tarot to be doing it too often for personal reasons. If you play with it you waste it. Like getting addicted to doing it again and again just to "make sure". You probably know this but it's better to take the original meaning and not second guess with further readings. The meaning is also so deep that you could spend a year on one reading just correlating  the esoteric symbolism and watching it unfold into the future. The whole deck is a summary of all esoteric philosophy that could be studied for a lifetime. At the same time there is instant intuitive understanding that cannot be taught. So it is a delicate balance or connection that is easily broken if abused.

I'm not going to judge the dead but I think she was partially used to scare me because I was right there as it happened.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:30 PM

View PostXingWi, on 18 February 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:

I'm sure you've read this already during your research when writing your book, but I'm adding this in support of your recent experience for the benefit of the readers: Shadow sightings near death-beds, accident sights, and cemeteries is pretty common. It is so common that based on these sightings near death beds and the carrying of people to "hell" by shadow demons during their NDEs or other occassions, a full-fledged eschatology of eastern religions like Hinduism, Jainism and Indo-Tibetan Buddhism has been formed. Shadow demons are called yamadoot (literal translation: messengers from the lord death (i.e. carriers of the soul to "hell")). Satan has entered in these religions as yamaraja (lord of death). Unlike Christianity, they do not ascribe evil or rebellion of God to Satan and instead believe that he is appointed by higher gods themselves as a keeper of "hell" and he is just doing his job. In this form he is worshipped as one of their dieties along with hundreds of other dieties they have.

So about your book... I have a question: What is it actually about? Is it your autobiography or includes the experiences of other people as well?

Like the Tibetan Book of the Dead. Here the priest just says some last words then he's done, while the Tibetans keep on guiding the recently departed. So let's say somebody dies and you feel and see the darkness creep in like tentacles until it engulfs the room. What would a Tibetan do as the darkness formed a singular consciousness then spoke? Do they fight or go with it as if it was a journey that had to be completed. And what if that journey could be completed before death? That's part of what the book is about.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 05:34 AM

View Postmarkprice, on 20 February 2013 - 11:30 PM, said:

Like the Tibetan Book of the Dead. Here the priest just says some last words then he's done, while the Tibetans keep on guiding the recently departed. So let's say somebody dies and you feel and see the darkness creep in like tentacles until it engulfs the room. What would a Tibetan do as the darkness formed a singular consciousness then spoke? Do they fight or go with it as if it was a journey that had to be completed. And what if that journey could be completed before death? That's part of what the book is about.

Thanks Mark.

People who are interested in reading Mark Price's book on shadow beings and their connection to Satan and their actual domain-"hell", can get it from here: The Devil's Canyon (The book is a fictionalized version of paranormal events of his life).





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