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Revelation 6.12 occurs right before the Tribulation since the Seals are the past twenty centuries. "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood."

That great earthquake was Haiti 2010 (5th worst natural disaster in human history).
That sun black as sackcloth is the H3 Solar Eclipse (long-dated) Nov. 3, 2013 (4th since Christ).
The moon red as blood occurs in 2014/15 on passover, tabernacles, and again, on passover and tabernacles (8th time since Christ).
The H3-Tetrad combo is the 1st since Christ.

How do we know this is the trifecta God is showing us? After all rare events happen all the time.

In 1949/50 the 6th Tetrad occurred when Israel signed the armistice treaty after becoming a nation May 14, 1948. God considers peace on paper. In 1967/68 the 7th Tetrad occurred when Israel entered Jerusalem on June 7, 1967. Why is this so important? Because of what Matthew 24 days: "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh" (v.33). The fig tree represents Israel. The summer is the millennial kingdom. "Summer is nigh" implies within a generation. Since 1948, 2015 will be 67 years. Anymore is more than "nigh".

There are 900 billion barrels of oil left in the world. At an average of 35 billion barrels a year, we have 25 years left of recoverable oil which takes us to 2035. If they find no new oil then the world will be producing 0 barrels of oil a year from 2035 on and the demand will be over 130 billion a year. A war will be fought for the few remaining drops of oil at least 10 years before 2035. The 2015 to 2022 timeline fits very well with this scenario, since Armageddon would then take place from 2020 to 2022.

God is angry. 10,000 people die a day due to to starvation, and at least 50,000 people die every day needlessly. Man is murderous to his fellow man. Add on top of that untold number of abortions every day, since man keeps murdering his fellow man, a great flood is coming: "the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined" (Dan. 9.26), even to the end of the 7 year Tribulation in Dan. 9.27.

"So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors" (Matt. 24.33). So we can know when the Tribulation starts which precedes the millennial kingdom. There won't be another Total Lunar Tetrad till 2582/83 so this is it folks!
Let's see if the 2,520th day from Sept. 14, 2015 Feast of Trumpets, which typifies the First Rapture, falls on a holiday? Darn, the 2,520th day doesn't fall on a holiday. The closest is Tisha B'Av on the 2,519th day on a Saturday, Av. 9, Aug. 6, 2022. But wait, whenever it is held on a Sabbath Tisha B'Av is held the day after. In 2022 that would be on Av 10, Aug. 7, 2022. That's a Sunday. Whew! Feels like a miracle.

Interestingly, 2,520 is smallest number divisible by all numbers from 2 to 10. I am 100% sure that is no coincidence. I love these pieces of the puzzle God gives us to the discerning.

But wait. This will all be for nought because there needs be a significant date 75 days after because Jesus steps down on the 1260th day of the Great Tribulation, judges the nations to the 1290th day and sets up Israel as the center of all nations to the 1335th day. The 75th day is Oct. 21, 2022. Where's the holiday? Doesn't look like there is any. But wait. Feast of Tabernacles is on Oct. 10, 2022. It goes for 7 days to Oct. 16. Then follows two holidays on the 17th and 18th, the second which is Simchat Torah when the Jews either bring out the three items of the ark or the Torah Scrolls to read them. So it seems we are some days off. It's nice though that the 1335th day is after the 3 feasts that pertain to when Jesus returns.

But wait! The Holy Spirit told me why the 1335th day is the 21st. Just like there is a 4 day inspection of the lamb before Passover, there is a 4 day inspection of the work of God to begin His millennial reign in the 3rd Temple. No animal sacrifice will take place, for Jesus is the Lamb of God. The 4 day inspection will be Oct. 18, 19, 20, 21. Oct. 21, 2022 is the 4th day of the inspection of the Lamb or Lion of Judah, so the millennial kingdom commences Oct. 22, 2022. Whew! That's better. Fits like a glove.

Feast of Trumpets (Sept. 14, 2015) deals with the first rapture according to readiness (Matt. 24.40-42, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10). Feast of Atonement (Sept. 23, 2015) ushers in the Jubilee year which should be 2015 but is postponed due to the wrath of God and wrath of Satan coming head to head. Tabernacles, of course, represents the tabernacling among men: His presence in the millennial kingdom that transitions us for the New City afterwards.

But God gives us yet another sign as if we needed anymore. There are 49 years x 360 days per year (17,640 days) from June 7, 1967 to the Day of Atonement Sept. 23, 2015. That's no coincidence friends.

But wait! He yet gives us even another sign. "And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed" (Dan. 8.14). When the Temple is constructed, it is still dirty, because the Jews are using it for the wrong reason. They are not to use it to perform sacrifices, but it is supposed to be built for Jesus to reign in during the 1000 years. It will be cleansed when Jesus returns immediately, because His very presence is cleansing, but there will be 45 days of setting up Israel as the center of all nations from the 1290th to the 1335th day, before Jesus steps in as it were.

Since the Temple needs to be completed before the last 2300 days of the Tribulation, does the 1st day of the 2300 days fall on a significant date? That date is April 21, 2016. Passover is April 22, 2016. April 21 is again the 4th day of inspection of the Lamb. The 4 days of inspection of the Lamb are from April 18 (Nisan 10), 19, 20, 21. Well that works.

What else? Can we place the Two Witnesses on two significant dates spanning 1260 days? Amazingly we can. There are 1260 days from April 18, 2016 to Sept. 30, 2019 Feast of Trumpets. What are the odds of that? God does not roll dice.

The Great Tribulation starts Feb. 25, 2019 (Rev. 9.1) with its 3 woes. The 2nd woe starts 5 months later on July 25, 2019 and 13 months after the 2nd woe is done, the 3rd woe begins on Aug. 18, 2020 which goes for 24 months.

The first rapture according to readiness is Sept. 14, 2015 Feast of Trumpets (Rev. 7.9), and the general rapture and resurrection occur on the first day of the 3rd woe (Rev. 11.15) on Aug. 18, 2020.

Jesus steps down Aug. 7, 2022.

Any questions?

[IamsSon]

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"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come."

(Mark 13:32-33)

Edited by IamsSon, 13 February 2011 - 02:05 PM.

[Parture]

IamsSon, on 13 February 2011 - 02:03 PM, said:

(Mark 13:32-33)

"Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father" (Mark 13.32-33).

When Jesus returns, heaven and earth don't pass away. Heaven and earth pass away a thousand years after Jesus returns.

"Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is" (v.33).

We know the day, just not the "hour" (Matt. 24.42) or time. Matt. 24.42 reads, "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come."

We know the day of first rapture rapture according to readiness (Matt. 24.40-42, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10) is Sept. 14, 2015 Feast of Trumpets. And we know the day Jesus steps down on the mount of olives on the 2,520th day Aug. 7, Sunday, Tisha B'Av, 2022.

Even though we know this people don't seem to care.

[IamsSon]

Parture, on 13 February 2011 - 02:15 PM, said:

"Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father" (Mark 13.32-33).

When Jesus returns, heaven and earth don't pass away. Heaven and earth pass away a thousand years after Jesus returns.

"Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is" (v.33).

We know the day, just not the "hour" (Matt. 24.42) or time. Matt. 24.42 reads, "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come."

We know the day of first rapture rapture according to readiness (Matt. 24.40-42, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10) is Sept. 14, 2015 Feast of Trumpets. And we know the day Jesus steps down on the mount of olives on the 2,520th day Aug. 7, Sunday, Tisha B'Av, 2022.

Even though we know this people don't seem to care.

I maintain that we do not know this, and that setting a date to something that even Jesus does not know, actually helps usher in an antichrist instead of helping the lost or even the believers.

[danielost]

Parture, on 13 February 2011 - 02:15 PM, said:

"Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father" (Mark 13.32-33).

When Jesus returns, heaven and earth don't pass away. Heaven and earth pass away a thousand years after Jesus returns.

"Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is" (v.33).

We know the day, just not the "hour" (Matt. 24.42) or time. Matt. 24.42 reads, "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come."

We know the day of first rapture rapture according to readiness (Matt. 24.40-42, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10) is Sept. 14, 2015 Feast of Trumpets. And we know the day Jesus steps down on the mount of olives on the 2,520th day Aug. 7, Sunday, Tisha B'Av, 2022.

Even though we know this people don't seem to care.

i dont know the scripture but you  forgot about there being a new earth and heaven.

[danielost]

IamsSon, on 13 February 2011 - 02:36 PM, said:

I maintain that we do not know this, and that setting a date to something that even Jesus does not know, actually helps usher in an antichrist instead of helping the lost or even the believers.

true, and since the anti-christ is here already.

but i wouldnt worry about the date until the jews rebuild the temple.  

by the way the group that is going to refurnish it already has everything they need to do so.  they also claim to know where the ARK is.

[Parture]

danielost, on 13 February 2011 - 03:10 PM, said:

i dont know the scripture but you  forgot about there being a new earth and heaven.

No need to worry about that. It comes a thousand years later.

[Parture]

IamsSon, on 13 February 2011 - 02:36 PM, said:

I maintain that we do not know this, and that setting a date to something that even Jesus does not know, actually helps usher in an antichrist instead of helping the lost or even the believers.

Jesus did not know, but doesn't mean He will not forever. He is at the right hand of the Father so He knows. He is the one who said we would know when after Israel becomes a nation. Now we know.

Showing lost souls the odds of being wrong are 1 in 9.4 billion and to help motivate Christians to "overcometh", it's a win, win situation all around.

Satan hates it that we can know.

Praise the Lord!

[Agent X]

I thought it was supposed to happen in 1827.

Silly me.

[danielost]

Parture, on 13 February 2011 - 03:55 PM, said:

Jesus did not know, but doesn't mean He will not forever. He is at the right hand of the Father so He knows. He is the one who said we would know when after Israel becomes a nation. Now we know.

Showing lost souls the odds of being wrong are 1 in 9.4 billion and to help motivate Christians to "overcometh", it's a win, win situation all around.

Satan hates it that we can know.

Praise the Lord!

jesus will know the moment god tells him to return.

[Ozner]

Even with all this detective work, I still don't think that we will know when the end will come. It's not "we don't know unless you look at the clues," it's "we don't know, period."

[willowdreams]

I may be a stupid non believer (agnostic)... but.. if I use common sense.. and the notions of a mother.. (and I am a mother).. then

no... no one knows, you are dong good guestimating.. but that is it.. why can I say with conviction and strong heart.. as a non believer.. that if there is a god and the bible is true.. that you do NOT know for sure?

Because... why would god permit you to walk over his head on somethign?

I mean think of it.. I would never ever as a mother tell my children a date to be worried over because it could change lives forever more.. why? Because then you are defeating the purpose of the who 'reasoning' behind everything.

God wants true believers of the heart.. deathbed confessions and 'rolling over' on the right side of the bed towards the end does not make one good.

Why would god want pple to suddnely change.. ooooh this is the day when I need to worry the most.. so a few yrs before.. I will begin working on changing me..;

umm no?

it will come up on you like a thief in the night... taking you by surprise.. and only those who are genuinely of the correct nature will find security and peace in the end.

One of the things I am also positive on is, if this whole  bible/god thing is true.. then those pple who are sooo sure of what they think is good and bad, right and wrong in gods eyes are in for a shock..

An older gentleman my guardians knew.. made a comment i over heard when I was sposed to be sleeping

he said that when the 'end' of this world comes and people find themselves 'saved' or in the new heavens and earth.. three things will happen
(may or may not be in this order)

1. they will be stunned at who is NOT there
2. they will be stunned at who IS there
3. they will be stunned that THEY made it.

so doing all this detective work is for naught.. and probably does not impress any god who may or may not be there. As a mother, my children doing good because I told them to do good.. or because they 'expect something' of it.. does not impress me.

When they do good things because it is 'right' and they dont expect much if anything, and half the time dont even mention it.. i just 'happened' upon it..

THAT is when I am impressed.. and since god is a 'parent' of sorts.. I would imagine god is not much different.

so instead of being concerned about times/dates.. be more concerned on the nature of your heart and ATTITUDE.

but then again.. being nothing better than an agnostic.. and a mother.. what do i know?

[Parture]

danielost, on 13 February 2011 - 07:18 PM, said:

jesus will know the moment god tells him to return.

Jesus has been at the right hand of the Father all this time, so you can be confident He knows now, just as He said we could know right at the door after Israel becomes a nation (Matt. 24.32-33), that though we can not know the hour, we can know the day (v.42).

[Parture]

Ozner, on 13 February 2011 - 07:52 PM, said:

Even with all this detective work, I still don't think that we will know when the end will come. It's not "we don't know unless you look at the clues," it's "we don't know, period."

We didn't need to know with a 9.4 billion to one probality, for that is just God's abundant mercy and grace to prove unequivocally. We could have known if the odds were only 1000 to 1.

[Parture]

willowdreams, on 13 February 2011 - 08:25 PM, said:

no... no one knows, you are dong good guestimating.. but that is it.. why can I say with conviction and strong heart.. as a non believer.. that if there is a god and the bible is true.. that you do NOT know for sure?

We know with 100% certainty God exists and Jesus is God according to the 4 Step Proof for God and the Minimal Facts Approach.

http://www.unexplain...howtopic=200614

The reason why some people don't give their lives to Christ is they have free to have the option to shut their minds down like zombies for Satan to reject God otherwise free will would not truly be free. This is all within God's divine provision and providential care.

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I mean think of it.. I would never ever as a mother tell my children a date to be worried over because it could change lives forever more.. why? Because then you are defeating the purpose of the who 'reasoning' behind everything.

I mean think of it. You're like your own child rejecting her mother or father. How evil of you. There is no reasoning behind everything if a mass murderer gets away scott free while someone who accepts God and does many goods work in Him ends up in the same result of annihilation. And it would be evil of God to create you with knowledge of Him then to annihilate you. That would be like telling your child when she reaches 12 years of age, she will have to be put to sleep forever. What love is that? Atheists are bad people.

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Why would god want pple to suddnely change.. ooooh this is the day when I need to worry the most.. so a few yrs before.. I will begin working on changing me..;

God wants to change us all, because He can't have fellowship with sinners in eternity future in the New City. That will never do. But if you don't want His atoneing sacrifice in forgiveness of sins, then you will eternally separate yourself from God, sending yourself to Hell and locking yourself in Hell from the inside. And the saved will forget you ever existed.

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so doing all this detective work is for naught.. and probably does not impress any god who may or may not be there. As a mother, my children doing good because I told them to do good.. or because they 'expect something' of it.. does not impress me.

God says to be watchful so we don't let our homes be broken into as the thief in the night comes to steal the best first in the first rapture according to readines, not a foregone conclusion for the whole church (Matt. 24.40-42, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10) "before the throne" (7.9) after the great earthquake, H3-Tetrad combo (Rev. 6.12) but before the first trumpet (8.7ff) of the 7 year Tribulation of 2,520 days. Hence, Sept. 14, 2015 Feast of Trumpets to Aug. 7, 2022 Tisha B'Av to coincide with Israel a nation and entering Jerusalem, these key events at the point of the Tetrad as our sign in the heavens to know when.

With a probability of 9.4 billion to 1, there ain't any doubt about it!

Edited by Parture, 14 February 2011 - 02:55 AM.