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#1    lightly

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 03:07 PM

A good friend found a complete.. fossilized peyote button, in a sandy outcropping in  Michigan!     He would like to know if it might be valuable... monetarily.     Could anyone tell us please what it might be worth ?

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 04:10 PM

How is this friend or you so sure it was a peyote button?

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 08:42 PM

View PostMentalcase, on 13 February 2011 - 04:10 PM, said:

How is this friend or you so sure it was a peyote button?


  well,  because , he says , it looks exactly like a peyote button.. Only it's fossilized.  Apparently he knows what a peyote button looks like.

I'd really like to find out, for his sake, if it is valuable, monetarily,  to a Museum of Natural History or a collector or something.


* Hmmm  but ya,  i guess your right.. it COULD be something else...    that looks identical...   who knows!?   maybe he should get it looked at by a botanist or someone who might be able to verify what it was.

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 09:20 PM

I have to say... it probably isn't hugely valuable.
A fossil of a fairly common plant doesn't run much, I'd expect.

I don't know for sure, though.
I'd recommend this forum here:
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It's a forum for fossil hunters and they'd give you a better idea.

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 11:44 PM

View PostShadowSot, on 13 February 2011 - 09:20 PM, said:

I have to say... it probably isn't hugely valuable.
A fossil of a fairly common plant doesn't run much, I'd expect.

I don't know for sure, though.
I'd recommend this forum here:
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It's a forum for fossil hunters and they'd give you a better idea.

hey thanks a lot ShadowSot,  ...  i see i'll have to join before i can post or make a topic.. but, i'll probably do it.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:10 PM

View Postlightly, on 13 February 2011 - 03:07 PM, said:

A good friend found a complete.. fossilized peyote button, in a sandy outcropping in  Michigan!     He would like to know if it might be valuable... monetarily.     Could anyone tell us please what it might be worth ?
Hello. I am Native American and my tribe would be very interested in getting a hold of that button if it is still available.  Even to hold it would be a blessing for us.  Please contact me if you can. Sarrie02@hotmail.com


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Posted 17 April 2012 - 12:40 AM

View PostSarrie02, on 16 April 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

Hello. I am Native American and my tribe would be very interested in getting a hold of that button if it is still available.  Even to hold it would be a blessing for us.  Please contact me if you can.

Hi,  Ok, Thanks.   I will contact my friend ( it might take awhile ) .. and then  i'll contact you to hook you guys up.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 07:35 AM

View Postlightly, on 17 April 2012 - 12:40 AM, said:

Hi,  Ok, Thanks.   I will contact my friend ( it might take awhile ) .. and then  i'll contact you to hook you guys up.

But you will have to check first if it is a true peyote; there are also socalled 'false peyotes':

Peyote is the common name for a species of cactus called Lophophora Williamsii, which has several variants. There are also a few nearly identical variants of a different species known as 'False Peyote', containing little-to-no mescaline. However, False Peyote does contain other psychoactive alkaloids, reported to have delerient effects.

Variants of False Peyote include:

* Lophophora Diffusa
* Lophophora Diffusa Fricii variant
* Lophophora Diffusa Kubesae variant
* Lophophora Diffusa Koeheresii variant


http://www.drugs-for...hp?title=Peyote


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Posted 17 April 2012 - 04:58 PM

View PostSarrie02, on 16 April 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

Hello. I am Native American and my tribe would be very interested in getting a hold of that button if it is still available.  Even to hold it would be a blessing for us.  Please contact me if you can. Sarrie02@hotmail.com


Hi.
Just out of interest, why?

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:42 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 17 April 2012 - 07:35 AM, said:

But you will have to check first if it is a true peyote; there are also socalled 'false peyotes':

Peyote is the common name for a species of cactus called Lophophora Williamsii, which has several variants. There are also a few nearly identical variants of a different species known as 'False Peyote', containing little-to-no mescaline. However, False Peyote does contain other psychoactive alkaloids, reported to have delerient effects.

Variants of False Peyote include:

* Lophophora Diffusa
* Lophophora Diffusa Fricii variant
* Lophophora Diffusa Kubesae variant
* Lophophora Diffusa Koeheresii variant


http://www.drugs-for...hp?title=Peyote


  Thanks Abramelin,  i didn't know about the "false" ones  .  (interesting link too)   ... i'm just trying to help my friend.      Lophophora Williamsii aren't native to michigan, i don't think,  but they may have been Longggggg ago?   .. But the  use of peyote , as a sacrament, did spread to this area  (great lakes) and Canada.  I'm not sure how or when one managed to get petrified  here.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 05:22 AM

Yeah...pretty sure he's found some kind of echinoderm, like this:

http://www.google.co...9jzS0&q=Cidaris

http://www.google.co...5.0.SLkJRgC1y9M

Seems he's not the first one to make that association either:

http://www.flickr.co...N02/6233734185/

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:15 PM

View PostOniomancer, on 21 April 2012 - 05:22 AM, said:

Yeah...pretty sure he's found some kind of echinoderm, like this:

http://www.google.co...9jzS0&q=Cidaris

http://www.google.co...5.0.SLkJRgC1y9M

Seems he's not the first one to make that association either:

http://www.flickr.co...N02/6233734185/

Fifth comment down.

Thanks Oniomancer,  that's interesting. There is a striking simlarity .
It would be funny if my friend has  found an actual fossilized Lophophora Williamsii which was traded all the way up here to michigan ... and then lost.. and then found !

fossilized  echinoderm huh? ...  yup, maybe so.  

  Lol..  you Know things are slow in here when people start searching info on topics THIS  boring. :P

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