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Forgotten UFO Researcher Ivan T. Sanderson.


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#1    karl 12

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 08:43 PM

There's some interesting reading at the links below about 'forgotten' UFO researcher and zoologist Ivan T. Sanderson and his speculation about UFO origin and machine intelligence - Sanderson also conducted a lot of great research into the USO subject and, as well as having close connections to British Naval Intelligence and the O.S.S., he also experienced his own UFO sighting in New Jersey, 1958 - there's also some intriguing comments made in the articles about his work with John Keel, Major Donald Keyhoe and former CIA Director Roscoe Hillenkoetter and, as it mentions in the documentary, Sanderson thought 'UFOs seem inextricably connected with water'.



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It is a shame that Sanderson, a biologist by profession, wrote only two books on UFOs. It is a greater shame that he is all but forgotten today. His first book, Uninvited Visitors (1967) remains among the most sophisticated analyses yet done on the possible nature of UFOs (Sanderson called them Unexplained Aerial Objects, or UAOs).

Too long to summarize here, Sanderson methodically asked, not what UAOs were, but what they could be. He developed a six page outline of the possibilities. Thus, they could be inanimate or animate. If inanimate, they might be natural, or artificial, each possibility with several subsets. If animate, they could also be natural or artificial. Natural forms might include life-forms indigenous to space, or to atmospheres, or to solid bodies. Artificial forms might be domesticated natural life-forms, genetically created life forms, or biochemically created life forms. And so on.

Sanderson at several points suggested the possibility that the "occupants" of UFOs might be artificial life forms. He was not dogmatic about this, and also entertained the idea that they might be an as-yet unknown life-form indigenous to Earth. Still, the concept of UFOs as a form of artificial intelligence is fertile enough that we might have expected some follow-up.

After all, its been 35 years.

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Documentary with background information on the USO research of Ivan Sanderson and his work with the British Intelligence Services - also a good interview with Bill Chalker about a Water/UFO case in Australia:





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Posted 24 February 2011 - 08:47 PM

Book review from the Australian Police UFO reporting website Police UFO.com of Sanderson's work on the USO subject 'Invisible Residents':


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Invisible Residents The Reality of Underwater UFOs


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An almost forgotten gem of UFOlogy...Sanderson reminds us of the hard yet oft-forgotten fact of UFOlogy, which is, most UFOs seem inextricably connected with water - They are very frequently seen entering and leaving water, moving through or above water, and otherwise interacting with water. Sanderson explores all the implications of this, leading him to postulate that most UFOs are actually USOs - Unidentified Submerged Objects, and their pilots, these other intelligences (OINTS), may have evolved alongside of humanity but under the sea.
Amoung the volumes of cases discussed, Sanderson makes at least 9 references to police, particularly to cases in the US and Canada. He too recognised their importance as witnesses. Sanderson examines UFO hotspots around the world, including the infamous Bermuda Triangle and a hotspot off Australia, searching for patterns and clues, and concedes something irregular is taking place in our waters. Even in theory, he admits, deep within the oceans, within the earth, is the perfect place for an inpenetrable secret base.

Drawing from years of investigation and research, reknown Zoologist Sanderson makes a powerful case for the reality of underwater UFOs and underwater bases. Intelligently constructed, written elegantly and with character, Sanderson is a real joy to read. A highly recommended book.

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UFO report by Sanderson from Blairstown, New Jersey in 1958 taken from section 6 of the NICAP Evidence Report


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UFO Sighting by Zoologist Ivan T.Sanderson.


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Shortly after 5:00 p.m., noted Zoologist Ivan T. Sanderson observed a disc- shaped UFO maneuvering over the Delaware Water Gap. The flat disc looped back and forth, appearing sometimes edge-on (as a very thin line), sometimes oval to circular. It vanished once, but quickly reappeared, and continued its rapid gyrations, finally speeding away to the west.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 08:41 PM

It states in the video in the first post (around 6:30) that a great many of Ivan Sanderson's files went missing towards the end of his life - now it seems his archived material has been found and there's quite a lot of it.


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The archives arrived in Kalamazoo on Friday. Two very hard-working days of shelving and stacking later, punctuated by anomalies "parties" punctuated by sub-sandwiches and pizzas and large quantities of extravagant commentary, our eight person crew we at least got it all off the truck and inside. It's going to take a LOT of archival work, my friends, but it will be worth it - the unloading days themselves were some of the most fun I've had in a very long time.

I want to give you some extremely "early" assessment information. This stuff is EXTENSIVE. It nearly filled a 26-foot U-Haul truck. Secondly, it has survived the rigors of time and mice very well.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 12:55 AM

Interesting karl , thanks .

Do you happen to know where the apparent " hotspot " off Australia is ?

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 12:58 AM

Sanderson, forgotten?

I suppose that's all subjective.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 05:37 PM

View Posttipotep, on 13 May 2011 - 12:55 AM, said:

Interesting karl , thanks .

Do you happen to know where the apparent " hotspot " off Australia is ?

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Tipotep, thanks for the reply - there's some great links here about UFO research in Australia but I think the currently accepted 'hotspot' is a place called Wycliffe Wells - the Nullarbor Plain has also had some very freaky unexplained reports.
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View PostMike G, on 13 May 2011 - 12:58 AM, said:

Sanderson, forgotten?

I suppose that's all subjective.


Hi Mike, yes I suppose it is but it's still good to post about him now and again :) - I don't know if you've seen (or agree with) it but there some interesting reading in this article about Ivan's 'underwater parallel civilization' theory as well as other UFO water reports - he certainly was quite a fascinating chap.
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Posted 25 June 2011 - 08:45 PM

Pictures of Ivan T. Sanderson's missing files:

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 04:13 AM

Great Post Karl ! Keep -em-Coming !

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 04:39 AM

Isn't Wycliffe Wells the place dubbed "Australia's Roswell", and it's basically a service station and a hotel in the middle of literally nowhere?
I remember reading that the USAF set up a base there during WW2 and haven't returned the lease to the Federal Government yet.

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 05:21 AM

View Postkarl 12, on 25 June 2011 - 08:45 PM, said:

Pictures of Ivan T. Sanderson's missing files:

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God, would I love to take a look at all of his notes. :w00t:

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 06:40 PM

View PostUFO_Monster, on 26 June 2011 - 05:21 AM, said:

God, would I love to take a look at all of his notes. :w00t:

So would I, UFO Monster. :tu:

Here's Ivan's other book on UFOs, 'Uninvited Visitors'


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Supported by his own research and documented reports, Ivan T Sanderson delves into the heart of UFO investigation. What could UFOs be? Where do they come from? When did they start coming? What would they want from us?



Even found in USAF libraries :)

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Who knows of Ivan Sanderson? He was a writer, an UFOlogist as well as a paranormal researcher and biologist. One of his books I have is entitled: Uninvited Visitors. The story of how I got this book is amazing in itself. Every Air Force Base (AFB) has its own library. Did you know that?

Well they do. One day I went into the Pease AFB and asked if as a citizen I could take books out. The librarian told me YES, so I was looking for anything on UFOS. There were not many: one by Major Ruppelt and one by Major Keyhole and this book by Ivan Sanderson. Inside the cover of this hard copy book is a stamp, "PROPERTY OF US AIR FORCE LIBRARY CENTER AFL 2502".

So this book came out of Pease Air Force Base and I noticed that it was printed and copyrighted in 1967! So how long did they have it? What is also interesting is when I went to bring it back in a month or two, Pease was going to be transferred to a public airport and the library was closed down! So now I own the book!! But why this book? Why was this book out of so many interesting to the United States Air Force? As I read this book there was not much I could see so damning that the AFB wanted or needed it. Sure Ruppelts, or Keyholes but why Sanderson's?

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 01:04 PM

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 06:20 AM

View PostUFO_Monster, on 26 June 2011 - 05:21 AM, said:

God, would I love to take a look at all of his notes. :w00t:


You might be disappointed, I am pretty sure most of them would pertain to the subject he is better known for - Bigfoot. A great man, a very colourful life, but he had an interest in the paranormal in general, his biggest influence was as a naturalist which led to his hours in the field chasing Bigfoot. His book, Do Abominable Snowmen of America Really Exist? appears to be perhaps what influenced Roger Patterson to create his own Bigfoot and film it. Sanderson used to write for Argosy Magazine, and had a regular spot on talk radio.  

Interesting fellow, certainly made his mark on the world. Can't ask for much more than that.

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 11:56 AM

He also influenced my thinking w.r.t the geo-anomalies such as the 'Bermuda triangle' which might even be influencing the CERN to Sasso 'faster-than-light' claims in the news at the moment. Great man. I'm surprised if he didn't consider his UFO sighting to be a bioluminesecnt dino-bird though. He had a clear sighting of large strange birds just after he shot a fruit bat in the Amazon, if I remember correctly.

The object, known by the locals as "Bicho Voador" (Flying Animal), or "Bicho Sugador" (Sucking Animal), has the shape of a rounded ship and attacks people in isolation.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 03:11 PM

Thanks for the replies and yes, he certainly was a very interesting chap with a very interesting O.S.S. Naval background -the Professor from SITU shares a few of Ivan Sanderson's USO reports below and there's also a document at the link regarding an object emerging through the ice in front of several military ships:


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SITU,Sanderson, & USOs: a very small peek at the files

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"Richard remarked that it would be interesting to see Sanderson's materials for his interest in USOs [undersea or underwater unidentified objects --- "Unidentified Submerged Objects" was I believe the USO intent]. Of course the files are a mess and I'm going back to West Virginia in about two days, so we can't really find out. But it turns out we can take a little peek. Sanderson, like with most of his topical files, created a three-ring notebook dedicated to the USO idea. In fact he had [at least] two of them, that I've found so far. At first glance [and that's all I can do now], it appears that these served as much of the factual basis for his book, Invisible Residents. I've posted a couple of the pages below of what appear to be his original loggings of the cases".

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