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[lost_shaman]

booNyzarC, on 07 May 2011 - 03:24 AM, said:

So yes, I'm quite confident that there were no violations of regulations.  

Hey booN,

I may have missed this somewhere, but who other than Sky even said there were 'violations'?

[booNyzarC]

lost_shaman, on 07 May 2011 - 04:03 AM, said:

Hey booN,

I may have missed this somewhere, but who other than Sky even said there were 'violations'?

The guy narrating the video he posted and the unnamed "airline pilot" in the video too (same dude was in the Unsolved Mysteries episode about the Phoenix Lights, by the way.  If you'd like to hear a more time relevant version of his account, check this out.  Funny how accounts change over time.).  I've seen other sources reference this as well.  None of it substantiated, of course.  All based on the assumption that the Phoenix Lights were actually over the city of Phoenix.  Nothing corroborates it, of course.

My favorite part of that Unsolved Mysteries clip above is the account from Gary Morris, who described the incident like this...

"I did everything that I could to explain them away and I said well it looks to me like a flock of geese flying down from Iowa with flashlights in their mouth."

That about sums it up for me.  That is what the video captured by Terry looks like to me too.  Either that or conventional aircraft flying in formation.

[mcrom901]

lost_shaman, on 07 May 2011 - 04:03 AM, said:

but who other than Sky even said there were 'violations'?

are you claiming to have specific info regarding the nature of said mission i.e. whether classified or not?  

anyhooz... what is the role of "due regard" and "MARSA" regarding formation flying?  

[lost_shaman]

mcrom901, on 07 May 2011 - 04:48 AM, said:

are you claiming to have specific info regarding the nature of said mission i.e. whether classified or not?  

anyhooz... what is the role of "due regard" and "MARSA" regarding formation flying?  

I'm reasonably positive that I didn't make any "claims" when I asked that question, although I assume that you 'presume' to have 'amazing powers' of perception so I won't fault you for 'imagining' whatever it is you think I meant.

It was just a simple question.

[mcrom901]

lost_shaman, on 07 May 2011 - 05:30 AM, said:

I'm reasonably positive that I didn't make any "claims" when I asked that question, although I assume that you 'presume' to have 'amazing powers' of perception so I won't fault you for 'imagining' whatever it is you think I meant.

It was just a simple question.

lol.... thanks for getting tricked.... and confirming my precognitions...

[lost_shaman]

booNyzarC, on 07 May 2011 - 04:43 AM, said:

The guy narrating the video he posted and the unnamed "airline pilot" in the video too (same dude was in the Unsolved Mysteries episode about the Phoenix Lights, by the way.  If you'd like to hear a more time relevant version of his account, check this out.  Funny how accounts change over time.).  I've seen other sources reference this as well.  None of it substantiated, of course.  All based on the assumption that the Phoenix Lights were actually over the city of Phoenix.  Nothing corroborates it, of course.

My favorite part of that Unsolved Mysteries clip above is the account from Gary Morris, who described the incident like this...

"I did everything that I could to explain them away and I said well it looks to me like a flock of geese flying down from Iowa with flashlights in their mouth."

That about sums it up for me.  That is what the video captured by Terry looks like to me too.  Either that or conventional aircraft flying in formation.

Thanks booN. I'll check that link.

mcrom said:

lol.... thanks for getting tricked.... and confirming my precognitions...

Guess you really got me on that one! huh?  

Edited by lost_shaman, 07 May 2011 - 06:21 AM.

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

Doesn't this quote, incidentally, posted by Sky above demonstrate the trouble with eyewitness reports?

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Some indicated the object was so large you could have landed a 747 on its back. Measurements from 900 feet to 2 miles in width and over a mile in length were reported. The estimated altitude of the object ranged (at various points in its trek) from 1,000 to 10,500 feet.

I mean, all those estimates would depend on you knowing the size of the Object in the first place, wouldn't they.

[DBunker]

747400, on 07 May 2011 - 06:58 AM, said:

Doesn't this quote, incidentally, posted by Sky above demonstrate the trouble with eyewitness reports?



I mean, all those estimates would depend on you knowing the size of the Object in the first place, wouldn't they.

I think so.... But then again, Skyeagle has shown time and time again how his evaluation process and investigation capabillities when it comes to the UFO phenomenon is guided by wishful thinking more than anything else.

This guy has made Cherry-picking into a perfect artform.

Edited by DBunker, 07 May 2011 - 08:05 AM.

[lost_shaman]

DBunker, on 07 May 2011 - 08:05 AM, said:

This guy has made Cherry-picking into a perfect artform.

Hey DBunker,

I disagree! Nothing anywhere nearly as valuable as 'cherries' has been 'picked' by our friend in question!

Edited by lost_shaman, 07 May 2011 - 08:22 AM.

[skyeagle409]

DBunker, on 07 May 2011 - 08:05 AM, said:

I think so.... But then again, Skyeagle has shown time and time again how his evaluation process and investigation capabillities when it comes to the UFO phenomenon is guided by wishful thinking more than anything else.

This guy has made Cherry-picking into a perfect artform.

What did I say before about; knowlege giving a  person the means to know when to hold  'em, and when to throw 'em?

[skyeagle409]

booNyzarC, on 07 May 2011 - 12:39 AM, said:

Did that report say 4' long?

Yes it did, but were you aware that the figure was of a reference, not of the actual size? Apparently, I withheld the rest of the story and what you have posted, is now history.

That is what I want to bring out in regards to debunkers not doing their homework before the rest of the story is known, and instead, they embark upon a trail of ridicule before I reveal the rest of the story.  

Apparently, you do not know me very well.

Edited by skyeagle409, 07 May 2011 - 08:14 PM.

[skyeagle409]

booNyzarC, on 07 May 2011 - 01:41 AM, said:

Skyeagle, you lost this argument before you even started it.  Just because you aren't paying attention doesn't mean that others are following your mislead.  I've already explained how there was no violation of FAA regs and how the sighting wasn't in Class B Airspace.  You'll never get it, I understand that now, but that doesn't mean I won't keep telling you that you're wrong.

You might want to think again. Look at the floors.

Edited by skyeagle409, 07 May 2011 - 08:11 PM.

[skyeagle409]

booNyzarC, on 06 May 2011 - 10:18 PM, said:

4.  Have yet to look that up... give me a moment...  about 110 miles from the last flare dropped to Davis–Monthan AFB in Tucson.  Not sure how long it would take to fly that, but at the estimated airspeed of 200-300 MPH, not very long.  Less than a half hour most likely.  Maybe around 20 minutes, give or take.

A typical jet could do it in under 15 minutes at  a typical cruising speed of over 450 knots,, but, it would take a bit longer because below 10,000, airspeed is restricted to only 250 knots.

On another note, no one living near Davis-Monthan AFB, heard any A-10s taking off nor landing around  the 10 - 10:30 PM time frame, so just consider yourself another victim of the USAF's deception campaign because it seems that you were unaware of what was reported by the folks of Davis-Monthan AFB as to the landing times of those A-10s, which were on the ground by 2030 hours (8:30 PM), but how many times have I ****WARNED**** skeptics to beware of the Air Force's deception campaigns when UFOs are involved?

It all should have been evident when the Air Force initially denied any involvement and then, refused to get involved, Many weeks later, it brought in the flares, which was ridicules, but the only card the Air Force could think of and threw on the table. And once again, the Air Force came back to re-adjust its altitude figure since its earlier figure was much too low, and amazingly, there are those who fell for the Air Force revised story on the Phoenix Lights. Simply amazing!!

I know from first hand experience how the Air Force has been misleading the public over the years and I am in a  prime position to be picky, or should I say,  cherry -picking.

Edited by skyeagle409, 07 May 2011 - 09:38 PM.

[booNyzarC]

I'm a tad busy right now skyeagle.  I'll have to respond to these later.  Hope you're having a fun Saturday.

[Mangoze]

lost_shaman, on 07 May 2011 - 08:21 AM, said:

Hey DBunker,

I disagree! Nothing anywhere nearly as valuable as 'cherries' has been 'picked' by our friend in question!

If Pavlov were alive today he wouldn't need to pick on a poor old dog.