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#1    karl 12

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 01:54 PM

As it states in this FBI law enforcement bulletin "a great many times police officers have figured in UFO sightings directly" and the case below is a very interesting example involving close range sightings, separately located witnesses, electromagnetic interference effects and an object performing 'aerial gymnastics'- it even states in the report by Dr James Mcdonald that the police officers 'had their pistols drawn and were debating whether to fire' on the unknown object.



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Red Bluff Police UFO Encounter - August, 1960:


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Aug. 13, 1960..Red Bluff, CA: California Highway Patrol Officers Charles A. Carson and Stanley Scott were on patrol when they sighted what they thought was an airliner about to crash. When the UFO had descended to about 100 or 200 feet  altitude it suddenly reversed direction and climbed to 500  ft. Description: round or oblong surrounded by a glow (color not mentioned) and having definite red lights at each end. They continued to watch the UFO  as  it performed "unbelievable"  aerial feats. The local  RADAR operator  confirmed  the UFO at this time but denied it the  next  day. Other  Tehema County Sheriffs' officers also saw this UFO and  another similar one that same night.

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UFOs: Greatest Scientific Problem of Our Times? - Dr James Edward McDonald



Object description - Police teletype report:

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"At this time it was clearly visible to both of us. It was surrounded by a glow making the round or oblong object visible. At each end, or each side of the object, there were definite red lights. At times about five white lights were visible between the red lights.As we watched the object moved again and performed feats that were actually unbelievable."



Object emits red beam / EM effects:

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The local radar base confirmed a UFO at this time (but denied it next day). "We made several attempts to ... get closer to it, but the object seemed to be aware of us and we were more successful remaining motionless and allow it to approach us, which it did on several occasions." Each time it did so, they experienced strong radio interference as the UFO emitted a red beam of light that swept the area and illuminated the ground. "The object was capable of moving in any direction. Up and down, back and forth .. it moved at high (extremely) speeds and several times we watched it change directions or reverse itself while moving at unbelievable speeds."




Second object / Separately located witnesses:

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..When they had reached the Vina Plains Fire Station, the object was approached by a second object that came from the south.

The second object moved near to the first and both stopped and hovered for some time, occasionally emitting red beams. After a time, both objects vanished below the eastern horizon. They had observed the first object for a total of about two hours and fifteen minutes.

When they returned to the Tehama County Sheriff's Office, they found that the object had also been seen by Deputies Fry and Montgomery, as well as by the night jailer. All described the same thing.



USAF explanation:

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"refraction of the planet Mars and the two bright stars Aldebaran and Betelgeuse".



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Posted 12 March 2011 - 02:05 PM

What kind of idiot policeman needs to debate whether to shoot at a target that they have not identified?

What kind of idiot policeman needs to debate whether to shoot at a target that they have not identified?  Especially if it is airborne?


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Posted 12 March 2011 - 03:33 PM

View Postaquatus1, on 12 March 2011 - 02:05 PM, said:

What kind of idiot policeman needs to debate whether to shoot at a target that they have not identified?

What kind of idiot policeman needs to debate whether to shoot at a target that they have not identified?  Especially if it is airborne?

         I agree Aqua. Typical humanity, if we cannot identify it, shoot it. Thats a real good first response. I am sure our 9mm's were a real scare to "them", LOL. My fellow humans never cease to amaze me !:rolleyes:

Edited by Robbie333, 12 March 2011 - 03:34 PM.

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 04:40 PM

When the UFO was hovereing around Exeter, NH in 1965, one of the witnesses kept telling the cops to shoot at it, but they wisely refrained from doing so.

http://www.ufocasebook.com/Exeter.html


In general, I just don't think it's a good idea to shoot at these things, since they might react in a very unpleasant way.  

This Exeter case should also get an award for one of the most absurd "explantions" ever offered for a UFO--fire balloons!  The fact that this did not match what the witnesses described in any way did not stop the "explainers" from slapping some kind of "explanation" on it.  In this case, they would have done better to say nothing at all.

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 06:59 PM

View Postaquatus1, on 12 March 2011 - 02:05 PM, said:

What kind of idiot policeman needs to debate whether to shoot at a target that they have not identified?

What kind of idiot policeman needs to debate whether to shoot at a target that they have not identified?  Especially if it is airborne?
I was going to write the EXACT same thing, as I was shaking my head after reading yet another case where people's instinct is to shoot at unidentified craft..... but then a few seconds later, I remembered, the human race is a DUMB primative one....

present company excluded of course *wink*

Thanks for posting Karl!

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"refraction of the planet Mars and the two bright stars Aldebaran and Betelgeuse".
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Edited by Paxus, 12 March 2011 - 07:07 PM.


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Posted 12 March 2011 - 07:20 PM

View Postaquatus1, on 12 March 2011 - 02:05 PM, said:

What kind of idiot policeman needs to debate whether to shoot at a target that they have not identified?

What kind of idiot policeman needs to debate whether to shoot at a target that they have not identified?  Especially if it is airborne?


Cops are human  :P  when faced with something they don't know or understand pull out the stinger right and be ready to use it. After all there is the second amendment that allows many to pull guns on things they get scared of.

Ok back to the ufo thing they saw, maybe they thought something would beam down  :unsure2:

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 07:37 PM

View PostPaxus, on 12 March 2011 - 06:59 PM, said:


USAF explanation:
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"refraction of the planet Mars and the two bright stars Aldebaran and Betelgeuse".
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

WOW! Typical.. What gets me is people believe this crap. lol


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Posted 12 March 2011 - 07:40 PM

View PostThe Silver Thong, on 12 March 2011 - 07:20 PM, said:

Cops are human  :P  when faced with something they don't know or understand pull out the stinger right and be ready to use it. After all there is the second amendment that allows many to pull guns on things they get scared of.

Ok back to the ufo thing they saw, maybe they thought something would beam down  :unsure2:

How many times do we hear that old saying ! Shoot First and Ask questions Later ! I would bet that If ET comes to Earth and Parks over Central Park and some really Cool Lights start to Blink on and a Death Ray starts up !
Oh! Strike that last thought ! THat was another movie I remember !

Well We should  think before we Shoot ! Right? :innocent:

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 07:50 PM

View PostRobbie333, on 12 March 2011 - 03:33 PM, said:

I agree Aqua. Typical humanity, if we cannot identify it, shoot it. Thats a real good first response. I am sure our 9mm's were a real scare to "them", LOL. My fellow humans never cease to amaze me !:rolleyes:
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing...you see something you cannot figure out what it is...so your first thought is to shoot at it? Good grief. That cops wife should be really careful when she gets up in the middle of the night to go use the bathroom, otherwise he may not be able to recognize her in the dark and start blasting away first response. I can understand being scared if a ufo is nearby, but unless the ufo starts shooting I just don't understand that urge.

Too many people on both sides of the spectrum have fallen into this mentality that a full one half of the country are the enemy for having different beliefs...in a country based on freedom of expression. It is this infighting that allows the focus to be taken away from "we the people" being able to watch, and have control over government corruption and ineptitude that is running rampant in our leadership.

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 08:01 PM

View PostDONTEATUS, on 12 March 2011 - 07:40 PM, said:

How many times do we hear that old saying ! Shoot First and Ask questions Later ! I would bet that If ET comes to Earth and Parks over Central Park and some really Cool Lights start to Blink on and a Death Ray starts up !
Oh! Strike that last thought ! THat was another movie I remember !

Well We should  think before we Shoot ! Right? :innocent:


We could all hope for that but hey I meet this sexy little thing last night and I didn't tarp the load so  :blush:   Kidding I was here stuck with my gf that bugs me to know end (joking) with a bucket of KFC. Now if I hadn't ordered kfc I might have shot the guy knocking on my door at 10 pm  :alien:

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 09:02 PM

View Postaquatus1, on 12 March 2011 - 02:05 PM, said:

What kind of idiot policeman needs to debate whether to shoot at a target that they have not identified?

What kind of idiot policeman needs to debate whether to shoot at a target that they have not identified?  Especially if it is airborne?
well if they had gotten eaten by aliens without shooting everybody would still be calling them idiots.

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 11:38 PM

For the records, I was trying to emphasize how unlikely the report is, due to the far more unlikely event that police would debate whether to shoot it or not.  They, after all, specifically trained in gun control in high stress situations.

It is more difficult for me to believe that a group of cops were deliberating whether to shoot an unidentified flying object that had not posed any danger to anything than to believe that someone merely made up the story.


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Posted 13 March 2011 - 04:24 AM

View Postaquatus1, on 12 March 2011 - 11:38 PM, said:

For the records, I was trying to emphasize how unlikely the report is, due to the far more unlikely event that police would debate whether to shoot it or not.  They, after all, specifically trained in gun control in high stress situations.

It is more difficult for me to believe that a group of cops were deliberating whether to shoot an unidentified flying object that had not posed any danger to anything than to believe that someone merely made up the story.

Yes they are well trained Aqua,its the ones that just pull the trigger that worry me !
We have many deaths every year here over this very question. The responce from the police is always going to back the Men In Blue!
JUst Imagine If the perp, is Nine feet tall and holding a Plasma Gun and got nasty Green Teeth,and wants to Eat you?
Then I would say Shoot! :wacko:

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 05:01 AM

I would say:  "Kid, take that mask off, put the watergun down, and go home, before I call your parents."

If he still tries to eat me, then I tackle him.  Shooting is probably not even going to be a consideration.


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Posted 13 March 2011 - 05:20 AM

Should I shoot the UFO , or should I not shoot the UFO....

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