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[Vet74]

By Fire-Cook....By Gun-Shoot...By Knife-Dice...By Rope-Lynch  

C   S    D    Lynch = Crime Scene Detective John Lynch on halloween card who am I. http://www.zodiackil...loweenCard.html

Edited by Vet74, 10 May 2012 - 05:45 AM.

[JonathanVonErich]

Vet74, on 10 May 2012 - 05:41 AM, said:

By Fire-Cook....By Gun-Shoot...By Knife-Dice...By Rope-Lynch  

C   S    D    Lynch = Crime Scene Detective John Lynch on halloween card who am I. http://www.zodiackil...loweenCard.html

Interesting theory Vet.

For people who don't know, Sergeant John Lynch was one of the detectives assigned to investigate the attack on Mike and Darlene. He's also the first investigator who interviewed Arthur Leigh Allen ( we still don't know why Allen suddenly had become a suspect ). Why do you think Zodiac would target Lynch ??

[robfield68]

I think the reason some people are so high on Gaikowski as a suspect is because he has not been ruled out by DNA. According to Zodiackiller.com there is still DNA testing to be done (possibly currently) regarding Richard Gaikowski as a suspect. There are a couple pics where he does look like the Zodiac composite sketch and some additional troubling facts. I still kind of like him for being Z.

[JonathanVonErich]

robfield68, on 16 May 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

I think the reason some people are so high on Gaikowski as a suspect is because he has not been ruled out by DNA. According to Zodiackiller.com there is still DNA testing to be done (possibly currently) regarding Richard Gaikowski as a suspect. There are a couple pics where he does look like the Zodiac composite sketch and some additional troubling facts. I still kind of like him for being Z.

I am not convinced that Gaikowski was the Zodiac, but he's a great suspect, I like him more than I like Allen, but I still have doubts that he could have been the killer, something is not right, seems like everything linking him to the case is a little bit of a stretch.....

To learn more about Gaikowski ( profile, "evidences" against him, handwriting analysis, Audio ) :

http://zodiackiller....tGaikowski.html

http://zodiackiller....forum.php?f=121

http://zodiackiller....forum.php?f=130

http://zodiackiller....forum.php?f=122

http://zodiackiller....forum.php?f=124

[robfield68]

JonathanVonErich, on 17 May 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

I am not convinced that Gaikowski was the Zodiac, but he's a great suspect, I like him more than I like Allen, but I still have doubts that he could have been the killer, something is not right, seems like everything linking him to the case is a little bit of a stretch.....

To learn more about Gaikowski ( profile, "evidences" against him, handwriting analysis, Audio ) :

http://zodiackiller....tGaikowski.html

http://zodiackiller....forum.php?f=121

http://zodiackiller....forum.php?f=130

http://zodiackiller....forum.php?f=122

http://zodiackiller....forum.php?f=124

At this point anybody is a stretch unless we can learn something, even if it is not totally conclusive, from DNA testing. He does look like the composite a bit...to me anyway. I also think his links to Albany and some of the wording in his news paper make him suspect. I liked Jack Tarrence and Arthur Leigh Allen too! I still think about Jack Tarrence. There are so few things to go on and so many people are dead we may never know. It would be nice to have this case wrapped up nicely, but I doubt that can ever happen. It is so mysterious and so gripping that it's impossible to not keep wondering.

This is the reason why I visited a few of the crime scenes personally. I find it strangely addicting to ponder how this all went down. To stand in the places where he stood. To look across the street at Washington street and wonder how the hell he got away! It's mind blowing that this never had a conclusion with a person being found to be Z.

[robfield68]

JonathanVonErich, on 17 May 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

I am not convinced that Gaikowski was the Zodiac, but he's a great suspect, I like him more than I like Allen, but I still have doubts that he could have been the killer, something is not right, seems like everything linking him to the case is a little bit of a stretch.....

To learn more about Gaikowski ( profile, "evidences" against him, handwriting analysis, Audio ) :

http://zodiackiller....tGaikowski.html

http://zodiackiller....forum.php?f=121

http://zodiackiller....forum.php?f=130

http://zodiackiller....forum.php?f=122

http://zodiackiller....forum.php?f=124

I still like Jack Tarrence a bit. I enjoy the mystery.

[JonathanVonErich]

robfield68, on 21 May 2012 - 08:15 AM, said:

I still like Jack Tarrence a bit. I enjoy the mystery.

At one point Tarrance was an interesting suspect, but when you search a little deeper about the man ( Dennis Kaufman ) who made the claims about Tarrance being the killer, then it's obvious that Tarrance was not Zodiac and that Kaufman created the story for fame and money.

Kaufman once claimed that Tarrance, his stepfather, murdered his mother; well now we know that Kaufman's mother died from natural causes due to a rare disease, she wasn't murdered. This is proof that Kaufman have an agenda against Tarrance and that he is not credible at all.

Kaufman is a fraud and a liar. Remember that he claims Tarrance was also the Phantom Killer, the Black Dahlia murderer, the Anthrax killer, and more. Basically he tried to link Tarrance to almost every famous unsolved murder cases of the last 70 years, clearly proving that Kaufman is a liar and a fraud. Credible researchers found evidence that Kaufman once tried to sell a piece of what he claimed was Paul Stine's shirt to Tom Voigt for 50,000$ when it wasn't true.

The "Similarities" Kaufman found between Tarrance and the killer are weak and only circumstancial anyway, so even if he was a credible source ( he's not, of course ) his theory would fall short. At first I thought the similarities between Tarrance's handwriting and Zodiac's handwriting were interesting, but when you research a little deeper you see there's too many differences to make a match.

[Spectre1979]

Ok so I have been following this thread for a while now and not really dug too deep into it all. Finally had some spare time and decided to look into it all. Only about half way through, and wow. (Gotta remember to take breaks as it is pretty awful stuff.) So far my main thought is that the Zodiac is none of the known suspects.

[JonathanVonErich]

Spectre1979, on 04 June 2012 - 05:19 AM, said:

Ok so I have been following this thread for a while now and not really dug too deep into it all. Finally had some spare time and decided to look into it all. Only about half way through, and wow. (Gotta remember to take breaks as it is pretty awful stuff.) So far my main thought is that the Zodiac is none of the known suspects.

Hey Spectre, thanks for sharing.

I definitely agree with you that there's not enough evidences to say that Allen or Gaikowski, the two most interesting suspects in the case, could have been the killer. Therefore it's more than possible ( probable ) that Zodiac was somebody we know nothing about, somebody totally unknown by the authorities and the population.

Still nothing new about the picture.

Still nothing new about the DNA Testing from Berryessa.

Edited by JonathanVonErich, 05 June 2012 - 03:15 PM.

[robfield68]

JonathanVonErich, on 05 June 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

Hey Spectre, thanks for sharing.

I definitely agree with you that there's not enough evidences to say that Allen or Gaikowski, the two most interesting suspects in the case, could have been the killer. Therefore it's more than possible ( probable ) that Zodiac was somebody we know nothing about, somebody totally unknown by the authorities and the population.

Still nothing new about the picture.

Still nothing new about the DNA Testing from Berryessa.

I could not agree with you more. I have recently read a lot about Jack Tarrance, Arthur Leigh Allen, and Richard Gaikowski. All I can say is that it may not be any of them. It seems for sure not to be Jack Tarrance. It was that hood that got my heart racing.

I do like Gaikowski best out of the known suspects, but again there is only partial truths and suspicion. Here are some interesting thoughts about Gaikowski.

His sister lived only blocks from where Paul Stine was killed and he was killed on Gaikowski's sisters birthday. He had reason to be in the area. Also, it has been shown that the killer was most likely in the front seat. Stine never let people into the front seat of his cab, or so says his family. Paul Stine lived right next to the Good Times switchboard where Gaikowski worked.Paul Stine's sister claimed that Richard Gaikowski attended Paul Stine's funeral.

This leads me to think that maybe Paul Stine knew Richard Gaikowski. Perhaps well enough to allow him into the front seat of his cab for a ride across town. Also, Gaikowski does look a bit like the Zodiac composite. In addition Gaikowski  traveled to Albany NY and worked in the same building as Darlene Ferrin's husband. Both Gaikowski and Ferrin came back to San Francisco in 1969. Odd?

The letters spelling GYKE are clearly seen in the unsloved Zodiac cipher in the EXACT location where he claimed he would reveal his name in the solved cipher.

I know this is all just circumstantial, but it does raise some suspicion about Gaikowski.

The timeline created on zodiackiller.com is quite interesting to say the least. I agree with most everything you say Jonathan. You have helped shed a lot of light on things for me these past 2 months and I respect that very much. I just really want to know who did all this and Gaikowski is the best thing going right now. DNA testing, for what it's worth, can only rule out Gaikowski. It cannot prove he did it because they only have a partial profile. If the current testing does NOT rule out Richard Gaikowski we have to take a more serious look at him as a suspect.

Timeline re: Gaikowski
http://zodiackiller....der=asc&start=0

[Spectre1979]

I think we need to work out the other cyphers, if in fact they can be.

[robfield68]

Spectre1979, on 07 June 2012 - 08:28 PM, said:

I think we need to work out the other cyphers, if in fact they can be.

The solved cipher did not tell us very much. I have a feeling that when Z saw how quickly his puzzle was solved that he created
a bunch of random symbols that mean nothing to keep people busy. I think the unsolved cipher is not solve-able because it means nothing.

[pallidin]

Maybe if the NSA (National Security Agency)has any spare time they could run the code through their computers.
After all they're the world master code-breakers, so I hear.
Or, like rob said above, maybe it's just a bunch of gibberish without true meaning.

[robfield68]

pallidin, on 09 June 2012 - 11:58 PM, said:

Maybe if the NSA (National Security Agency)has any spare time they could run the code through their computers.
After all they're the world master code-breakers, so I hear.
Or, like rob said above, maybe it's just a bunch of gibberish without true meaning.

I have personally been messing with that cipher for 25+ years. I am fairly sure that it is totally meaningless. I am clearly not the only one who has tried to solve it either. I am sure that many people smarter and with better equipment than me have attempted to solve it. Even if it was solved I doubt very much would come of it. Z tended to write things that entertained himself and offered little to help find out his identity

[Spectre1979]

robfield68, on 09 June 2012 - 08:11 PM, said:

The solved cipher did not tell us very much. I have a feeling that when Z saw how quickly his puzzle was solved that he created
a bunch of random symbols that mean nothing to keep people busy. I think the unsolved cipher is not solve-able because it means nothing.

I would say you are correct, as it certainly is plausible.