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[JonathanVonErich]

 Moooooo, on 28 April 2011 - 10:25 PM, said:

If it was'nt for the glasses he would look nothing like the composite sketch. I'd say by his nose that he matches phillips picture more.

Hey thanks for sharing.

I respect your opinion, I am very open to the idea that the man on the picture might be Jim Phillips.

However I still don't think we can reach a conclusion based exclusively on the comparison of the two pictures, but anything is possible.

In my humble opinion I think the "Unknown man" looks more like the composite sketch than he looks like Jim Phillips, but it's only my opinion and I could be wrong.

[MstrMsn]

 MissMelsWell, on 07 April 2011 - 02:11 AM, said:

So, here's a really weird question.... and you're going to think I"m off my rocker here.... but the man in the photo doesn't bother me, but there is something about her that DOES bother me. Are there other pictures available of Darleen from around roughly the same time period? I'm still hung up on her manner of dress. That sweater and her boots are really bugging me... they just don't look like something that someone would have worn in 1966 or 67! And for that matter, her haircut doesn't either. That outfit AND haircut to me looks totally preppy 1985. The sweater is too large and boxy and the print just isn't 1967. I don't know, it's probably stupid for me to read too much into it. It probably is her from 66 or 67... I'm sure I'm overthinking it and it's just what it appears to be, and the Glitteratti side of my personality has simply run amok. LOL

I'm not really sure if this happened much on the West Coast, but on the East Coast (from the 60s to now), if a woman had a pregnancy she didn't want to fully share, she would wear a much larger sweater/sweatshirt. Just a thought.

As for the print, I've seen a similar print from that time frame, well, as far as ski sweaters go.

Edited by MstrMsn, 29 April 2011 - 06:22 AM.

[MstrMsn]

I know, not the same, but similar enough.

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[JonathanVonErich]

Huge Update:

I have received an email from zodiackiller.com's webmaster Tom Voigt and he told me:

- Jim Phillips is still alive.
- Jim Phillips know about the new pic and clearly stated that HE IS NOT THE MAN ON THE PICTURE.

I'm trying to get more informations right now, but it's a huge shocker to me, I was beginning to think that mr. Phillips was indeed the man on the picture. Tom Voigt has been in communication with Mr. Phillips for years and swear to me that this information is true. Tom Voigt is not perfect but in my opinion he is a very credible investigator and I believe him, simply because I know he was at one point very close to Darlene's family.

Keeping you posted.

Edited by JonathanVonErich, 29 April 2011 - 10:09 PM.

[susieice]

Good find JVE. Keep us posted on what you find out. Mr. Phillips likely does know the identity of the man in the photo.

[JonathanVonErich]

 susieice, on 30 April 2011 - 12:13 AM, said:

Good find JVE. Keep us posted on what you find out. Mr. Phillips likely does know the identity of the man in the photo.

Well as far as I know he don't know the identity of the man on the picture, he simply know that it's not himself (duh   ). But even if we don't have the identity of the "unknown man" at least we know that it is not Jim Phillips, so I think this is a huge news, 70% of the discussion of this thread is about mr. Phillips.

I am still trying to contact another source, just in case, not that I don't believe Voigt's statement, but I'm doing it just to be 100% sure.  

Edited by JonathanVonErich, 30 April 2011 - 12:49 AM.

[susieice]

Good job. Let us know what you find out.

[JonathanVonErich]

For some reasons I have my doubts about Tom Voigt's statement. I would really like to read an article or interview about mr. Phillips' statement, have a real definitive proof that he is really aware of the new picture and that he is indeed not the man on the picture.

Some people think Voigt is a fraud, other thinks he is a good investigator. I think he is a good investigator and is credible most of the time, however I agree that some of the things he said (that the man of the picture looked like Richard Gaikowski for example) were not very accurate or serious. So really I don't know what to think.

I won't post in this thread until I have real, solid evidences to back up the fact the man on the picture is or is not Darlene's ex husband Jim Phillips.

[Mario Lemieux]

I don't think they'll ever find out who it was

[ali smack]

 Mario Lemieux, on 13 May 2011 - 05:19 PM, said:

I don't think they'll ever find out who it was

I agree.
Sadly whoever he was maybe dead now.

[JonathanVonErich]

 Mario Lemieux, on 13 May 2011 - 05:19 PM, said:

I don't think they'll ever find out who it was

 ali smack, on 14 May 2011 - 09:10 PM, said:

I agree.
Sadly whoever he was maybe dead now.

Well there's always a possibility to solve a case, even if the case have been cold for many decades. I have read about cases who were cold for decades but then suddenly a new clue is found and then the case is re-opened and then solved, sadly it doesn't happen very often but it happen, and perhaps this will be the case with The Zodiac Killer.

Do I believe that one day the case will be solved ?? Honestly no, I think this case will remain a mystery, first of all because of the lack of real, solid evidences against the suspects in the case and also because of the mistakes made by the Investigators back then (I'm thinking about the murder of Paul Stine). I could be wrong and really hope I am, I really wish this case will be solved one day but I really believe that it won't be.

Edited by JonathanVonErich, 15 May 2011 - 07:35 PM.

[TheNiece]

 JonathanVonErich, on 15 May 2011 - 07:33 PM, said:

Well there's always a possibility to solve a case, even if the case have been cold for many decades. I have read about cases who were cold for decades but then suddenly a new clue is found and then the case is re-opened and then solved, sadly it doesn't happen very often but it happen, and perhaps this will be the case with The Zodiac Killer.

Do I believe that one day the case will be solved ?? Honestly no, I think this case will remain a mystery, first of all because of the lack of real, solid evidences against the suspects in the case and also because of the mistakes made by the Investigators back then (I'm thinking about the murder of Paul Stine). I could be wrong and really hope I am, I really wish this case will be solved one day but I really believe that it won't be.

I am hoping that one day the case will be solved. As I have stated to police since 2003, the evidence they need to solve the case is just a DNA test away. If the police follow all the leads they are supplied, here is one that they should heed. Here is a photo of the man I believe was responsible for the Zodiac Killer's crimes. He is my uncle and the photo was taken in the 70's somewhere in his favourite place, the Pacific Northwest. Everything about his photo matches all the facts known about the case.

In order to eliminate him, a DNA comparison between the DNA found under the fingernails of Cheri Jo Bates and that of the killer's sibling (my mother) and one of his parents (both buried) will show whether to not this lead is false. On top of that is a Christmas card in which he wrote a personal message to his mother. That I shall supply the card to the police force most trusted to solve the case. I do not trust the SFPD to solve the case, so it will not be them.

I believe that a DNA comparison between the DNA from the crime scene (Cheri Jo Bates) and that of the killer's sibling and parent will show who the killer is, as well as the hand written note to his mother (in my possession).  I shall be sending it to an appropriate police force soon.

The man IS dead. He died on May 1, 2007 in Idaho under the care of a lifelong friend, never having been charged for any of the numerous murders he committed, therefor he cannot be named, but at least cases can be solved.

I am very accustomed to the heat generated by these claims, so fire away. It has taken much to get police to listen. Perhaps the hand written note will draw their interest. It should.... IF police really want to solve the case. It could just be that police have no desire to solve the case, but if they do, this evidence should NOT be ignored.  UNCLE BUBBA.jpg   24.43K   41 downloads

Edited by TheNiece, 30 May 2011 - 05:23 PM.

[The Skeptic Eric Raven]

 TheNiece, on 30 May 2011 - 05:21 PM, said:

I am hoping that one day the case will be solved. As I have stated to police since 2003, the evidence they need to solve the case is just a DNA test away. If the police follow all the leads they are supplied, here is one that they should heed. Here is a photo of the man I believe was responsible for the Zodiac Killer's crimes. He is my uncle and the photo was taken in the 70's somewhere in his favourite place, the Pacific Northwest. Everything about his photo matches all the facts known about the case.

In order to eliminate him, a DNA comparison between the DNA found under the fingernails of Cheri Jo Bates and that of the killer's sibling (my mother) and one of his parents (both buried) will show whether to not this lead is false. On top of that is a Christmas card in which he wrote a personal message to his mother. That I shall supply the card to the police force most trusted to solve the case. I do not trust the SFPD to solve the case, so it will not be them.

I believe that a DNA comparison between the DNA from the crime scene (Cheri Jo Bates) and that of the killer's sibling and parent will show who the killer is, as well as the hand written note to his mother (in my possession).  I shall be sending it to an appropriate police force soon.

The man IS dead. He died on May 1, 2007 in Idaho under the care of a lifelong friend, never having been charged for any of the numerous murders he committed, therefor he cannot be named, but at least cases can be solved.

I am very accustomed to the heat generated by these claims, so fire away. It has taken much to get police to listen. Perhaps the hand written note will draw their interest. It should.... IF police really want to solve the case. It could just be that police have no desire to solve the case, but if they do, this evidence should NOT be ignored. UNCLE BUBBA.jpg

What makes you think it is him? You have to have some reason to have suspicions.

[TheNiece]

 The Skeptic Eric Raven, on 30 May 2011 - 06:11 PM, said:

What makes you think it is him? You have to have some reason to have suspicions.

I first suspected my uncle when I lived with him in San Bruno in the summer of 1970. The reasons I suspected him are that he had a gun, which he called a Saturday Night Police Special, that had the site filed off. It was made of black metal and hand a red shield on the handle. The site was filed off so that he could tape a penlight flashlight on top to use as a site. I asked him how he could see the light? He said he did his best hunting at night and asked if I would like to join him, to which I answered, "No".

He had a dark brown, finely tailored hangman's hood with a mortarboard on top, hanging on the wall in the living room over his chair. It had gold symbols embroidered in the corners of the top of the mortarboard and the crosshair on the front. He said he got the hangman's hood when he joined an old order of the Mason's.

He often took long motorcycle trips in all directions, up & down the Cal coastline, to the mountains of eastern Cal, to Oregon, where he eventually moved. He was also seen at the pig farm by my youngest sister who frequented the farm in the 90's with her best friend Marnie Frey.

His mother, who raise me, also thought he was the Zodiac Killer, but we had no way to offer proof, at least I didn't. She had the handwritten card (among other hand writing of his) which for some reason she never sent to police. Probably because she did not want to sully the family name. She thought so because he had stolen the middle C string off her baby grand, twice in the late sixties. And because she knew his hand writing, history.

He used airplane glue on his fingertips when working on engines of cars (to "keep his fingernails clean"). He was an expert mechanic, constantly buying, fixing up and selling cars.

He and our cousin Eddy (an ex-cop in NO in the early 60's) who told Bubba ways to get way with murder, used to stay in frequent contact all their lives. Posted is a photo of our cousin.

There are many more reason to suspect my uncle, but I'll leave those facts for the police to look at.  Eddy walking.jpg   33.67K   42 downloads

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[The Skeptic Eric Raven]

 TheNiece, on 30 May 2011 - 06:59 PM, said:

I first suspected my uncle when I lived with him in San Bruno in the summer of 1970. The reasons I suspected him are that he had a gun, which he called a Saturday Night Police Special, that had the site filed off. It was made of black metal and hand a red shield on the handle. The site was filed off so that he could tape a penlight flashlight on top to use as a site. I asked him how he could see the light? He said he did his best hunting at night and asked if I would like to join him, to which I answered, "No".

He had a dark brown, finely tailored hangman's hood with a mortarboard on top, hanging on the wall in the living room over his chair. It had gold symbols embroidered in the corners of the top of the mortarboard and the crosshair on the front. He said he got the hangman's hood when he joined an old order of the Mason's.

He often took long motorcycle trips in all directions, up & down the Cal coastline, to the mountains of eastern Cal, to Oregon, where he eventually moved. He was also seen at the pig farm by my youngest sister who frequented the farm in the 90's with her best friend Marnie Frey.

His mother, who raise me, also thought he was the Zodiac Killer, but we had no way to offer proof, at least I didn't. She had the handwritten card (among other hand writing of his) which for some reason she never sent to police. Probably because she did not want to sully the family name. She thought so because he had stolen the middle C string off her baby grand, twice in the late sixties. And because she knew his hand writing, history.

He used airplane glue on his fingertips when working on engines of cars (to "keep his fingernails clean"). He was an expert mechanic, constantly buying, fixing up and selling cars.

He and our cousin Eddy (an ex-cop in NO in the early 60's) who told Bubba ways to get way with murder, used to stay in frequent contact all their lives. Posted is a photo of our cousin.

There are many more reason to suspect my uncle, but I'll leave those facts for the police to look at. Eddy walking.jpg

Sorry, but that doesn't sound that convincing. IMO.