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#1    karl 12

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Posted 12 April 2011 - 06:45 PM

As discussed in this thread, the Edwards Air Force Base UFO incident is a pretty darn intriguing one and involves several UFOs over a secure military runway - the objects were witnessed by several Air Force personnel, confirmed by multiple radar and the USAF even scrambled several jet fighters to go after them - below are the pilot transmission recordings and some very interesting testimony from the air traffic controller Chuck Sorrels.



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Edwards Air Force Base.

Edward J. Ruppelt, former chief of an Air Technical Intelligence Center, reported several incidents of unidentified aerial vehicles with advanced flight characteristics, seen over this secured test facility in the 1950s.  A similar event happened on the night of October 7, 1965.  And here is the voice of the man who first reported it.


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Chuck Sorrels:  My name is Chuck Sorrels, a retired Air Force air traffic controller.  I'm recording this on May 16, 1995.  In 1965, 30 years ago, I was a tech sergeant in the U.S. Air Force, attached to the19 25th Communication Squadron at Edwards Air Force Base in California. I was the air traffic controller on duty in Edwards tower on the night of October 7, 1965. I was working a midnight shift in the tower when at approximately 1:30 a.m., I spotted a group of luminous objects in the air above and around Edwards Air Force Base.  They had a flashing red light on the bottom, with a green, glowing light above the red.

They also sometimes flashed or glowed a white light above the green light.  The sightings lasted until about daylight, 5:30 or six a.m.  At first I sighted one object, which was larger and brighter than the rest.  At one point there were seven objects visible at the same time. The objects would be stationary for a period of time and then move very fast to another location and appeared to be able to climb straight up in short order.  Good eyesight and my experience as an air traffic controller made it plain to me that these luminous objects were not planes, helicopters, stars, satellites, weather balloons or any other known aerial object. Your job as an air traffic controller calls for you to be watchful.Training told me these were not normal objects.  The objects weren't supposed to be there.  These were objects out of the normal, from their appearance and flight characteristics.  I reported these sightings to base operations and the Los Angeles Air Defense Sector.  The objects were also seen by at least five other people on Edwards Air Force Base.  They were also seen by George Air Force Base tower and were showing up on radar in at least four different radar sight locations.

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Okay.  Captain Clark, uh, Lieutenant Reed?

Yeah.

Uh, we have some confirmed reports of, uh, some unidentified flying objects your area. .

Okay.

Approximately six or more, uh, from Edwards, uh, just south of Victorville, and we'd like to use--  We have information from 28th --- We also have some height-finder cuts from anywhere from 3,000 up to 13.  They're moving slowly.

Uh huh.

And they're climbing slowly.
    
I see.

They're red, white and green flashing lights.

Uh huh.

And, uh, they have been confirmed on radar..


Uh, San Pedro is painting them, uh, three targets, and they're all three around 9,000 feet.

San Pedro's pickin'   'em up at 9,000,    huh?

Roger.

What about Boron?

Boron? We're, uh, working with them to see if we can get 'em on 'em now. That's those three little dots out there   [OVERLAPPING] and

[OVERLAPPING] Yeah.

I'd say that, uh, there are three definite objects.  It's not weather.  It's not clutter.  

Uh, they, they can see the objects, but they don't see, uh, [SOUNDS LIKE:  it's not an aircraft?]  

No.  They can't tell what they are.

[01:29:02:02]

Uh.  Oh.  Scramble 'em.

[SOUNDS LIKE:  You are scramblin' 'em] [UNINTELLIGIBLE]? [LAUGHS] [SOUNDS LIKE:  I'm curious to] find out what the hell they are.

I am too.

And you'd be within your right to scramble 'em, wouldn't you?

I don't know.  [SOUNDS LIKE:  Be up to me just] [WORD?] I guess.

Well, [UNINTELLIGIBLE].

They're not moving [SOUNDS LIKE:  hard] at all.  [SOUNDS LIKE:  They did?]

They watched 'em for 30 minutes and they didn't move at all and then all of a sudden, boom.

Oh yeah?  Hmm.  [SOUNDS LIKE:  What are they?]

[LAUGHS] Don't know.

Little green men?

Nobody [SOUNDS LIKE:  has ever accepted these things yet..

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Posted 12 April 2011 - 07:21 PM

I'm curious about what people here think about this one too.
It's cases like this that have me leaning toward ETH.


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Posted 12 April 2011 - 07:25 PM

Brilliant reserch as usual Karl, and a fascinating recording, of a fascinating case!
It's always good to here it from the horses mouth (so to speak), I always think that it lends a little more authenticity to any 'story' if one can judge for one-self the character of the actual witness.
I always liked this picture of a UFO taken (accidently) by a test pilot at Edwards AFB 8 years earlier in 1957.

http://www.ufocasebo...ardsafb1957.jpg

Interesting to see how this testimony is going to be dismissed?

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Posted 12 April 2011 - 07:28 PM

Gordon Cooper also mentioned a UFO landing at Edwards in 1957 that was caught on film.  If true, this is yet one more example of "missing" UFO evidence.




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Posted 12 April 2011 - 07:32 PM

This incident can surely be explained by a rare instance of swamp gas AND Chinese lanterns both being present.  

In all seriousness, great find Karl.  It's hard to dispute this particular case when you have professionally trained aviator personnel making these claims.


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Posted 12 April 2011 - 07:35 PM

According the Samuel herman, six hours of audiotape about the 1965 UFO alert were declassified, but all highly scrambled.


UFO Alert At Edwards Air Force Base
A true account by Samuel M. Sherman
Note: The text file presented below is for use of the NICAP Search Engine only. To view the actual original web page and images, go to"

http://www.flash.net...ds/edwards.html


"Even still, we obtained the following de-classified materials, related to the UFO subject: Over 4000 pages of paper documents and correspondence; still photographs, radar photos, motion picture film, videotapes and audio tapes. Audio tapes?? Who was interested in that? We all wanted to see something.

Well, it turned out that the sounds presented some fantastic images all their own. I reviewed the audio materials last, as I had shelved them for months, I wanted visuals. What a mistake! I listened to six hours of confusing audio recordings from Edwards Air Force  Base from the night of October 7, 1965 in which it sounded like a UFO alert was taking place over the base with 12 strange luminous objects coming down over the runway of one of our nation's most secure test facilities. This was/is the place where they fly the black, classified projects. They know what they are and what planes, helicopters, stars, weather balloons,  planets and satellites are.

So what were they getting excited about? It was difficult to tell on the six hours of tapes. These tapes were de-classified, but in a form called "scrambled release" - all chopped up out of sequence, so they made no sense at all. I knew there was a story in there somewhere.

Between the chopped up editing and the overlay of noise, something very  important lay in waiting. I decided to analyze the tapes for possible use in a segment in Beyond This Earth. I took eight months in my own audio studio editing 1/4 inch audio tapes, after signal processing them in computer to remove noise. I got to know the tapes so well, I felt I almost knew the people on the tapes, which I would in time. Now, what were these tapes and why were they made? In 1965 the Air Force ran large reels of recording tapes which recorded all of the signals from Radar.

Then if an accident or problem took place, the Radar could be re-played like running a video tape to figure out what took place. In the case of special events a track on these radar tapes could be used to record voice transmissions at the air base.

"This included all Phone Patches, Base-to-Base Communications and Ground- or Tower-to-Air Radio. Now this is what took place on the night of October 7, 1965 at Edwards Air Force Base. By putting the tapes into chronology and doing further research the story emerged.

At approximately 12:30AM, the Tower Operator at Edwards (a/k/a Edwards Tower) - Tech Sgt. Charles "Chuck" Sorrels saw a group of luminous objects flashing red, white, and blue or green light coming over the field. His job as an air traffic controller taught him to be watchful, so he could identify incoming planes. when these objects started to do unusual maneuvers, he knew this was out of the ordinary and called the Air Defense Command - in this case a unit known as LAADS (The Los Angeles Air Defense Sector).

Major Struble at LAADS ordered the recordings to be made--now we hear all this taking place on the actual tapes. He involved NORAD and the following other air bases- NORTON, HAMILTON, GEORGE and MARCH.

The major wanted to send planes up after the objects but could not do this until a CAPTAIN at Edwards approved sending up the planes. This Captain was the . . .get this . . . UFO officer (pronounced Yoo-fo) officer in charge on the base.

This was apparently more than just a job classification for reporting sightings, but he had to request the plane or planes go up, from the 28th Air Division at Hamilton, or they would not go up. In short the Air Defense Command needed HIS authority."

http://www.nicap.org/edwards65b.htm

Edited by TheMcGuffin, 12 April 2011 - 07:36 PM.

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Posted 12 April 2011 - 08:02 PM

Found this amazing link with all of the original documents and transcripts etc.

http://www.nicap.org/edwards65dir.htm

Sorry if it's old news.

Cheers.

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Posted 12 April 2011 - 08:33 PM

With this case, I'm leaning toward this being a very true and credible sighting! Very rare that so many different elements involved and all confirm the event exact. I am not so sure this is Aliens in their space ships however. As I said, I would say this is of high probability (98% or more ) it definitely was of unknown craft and origin, I just don't know if it's our own government's craft or aliens.

Awesome find Karl! Thank you my friend! Very pleased to have some quality topics once again! Was becoming rather dry for a short bit. :tu:

Edited by ColoradoParanormal, 12 April 2011 - 08:33 PM.


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Posted 12 April 2011 - 09:13 PM

You know the sad thing is ,that Skyeagle has posted this report many times and reffered it ,in the Airforces cover up for years, Yet everyone Dissis Him to no End !
Now just maybe some day We shall see wit our own two or three eyes a Landinf and Actual Meeting with E.T !
And on that Day Im buying Sky a round for the Entire Base ! And Its Off with my Hat to Skyeagle!
And Good reporting Karl12 Too ! We need some faith and believers, Or E.T just might not ever Come to Little Old Planet Earth!

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Posted 12 April 2011 - 10:19 PM

View PostDONTEATUS, on 12 April 2011 - 09:13 PM, said:

You know the sad thing is ,that Skyeagle has posted this report many times and reffered it ,in the Airforces cover up for years, Yet everyone Dissis Him to no End !
Now just maybe some day We shall see wit our own two or three eyes a Landinf and Actual Meeting with E.T !
And on that Day Im buying Sky a round for the Entire Base ! And Its Off with my Hat to Skyeagle!
And Good reporting Karl12 Too ! We need some faith and believers, Or E.T just might not ever Come to Little Old Planet Earth!

Agree 100% D! ....And i'll get the next round in!
I too apreciate Skyeagle's tireless efforts!  :tsu:

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Posted 12 April 2011 - 10:49 PM

View PostDONTEATUS, on 12 April 2011 - 09:13 PM, said:

You know the sad thing is ,that Skyeagle has posted this report many times and reffered it ,in the Airforces cover up for years, Yet everyone Dissis Him to no End !
Now just maybe some day We shall see wit our own two or three eyes a Landinf and Actual Meeting with E.T !
And on that Day Im buying Sky a round for the Entire Base ! And Its Off with my Hat to Skyeagle!
And Good reporting Karl12 Too ! We need some faith and believers, Or E.T just might not ever Come to Little Old Planet Earth!


I don't diss him since many of the cases he posts are perfectly valid and well known.  Few of these classic cases have ever really been explained--not when when is honest and really studies the evidence.  There will always be people who ignore all this or just try to brush it off, but that doesn't change the fact that these things really happened.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 06:59 AM

Nice video. He's right, even though he witnessed it, It was classified on a "need to know basis" So he couldn't
keep track of it.


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Posted 13 April 2011 - 08:23 PM

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This incident can surely be explained by a rare instance of swamp gas AND Chinese lanterns both being present.

:lol:

ETH or not, this is pure gold.  Thanks for sharing.
I'm becoming less and less trusting of a lot of UFO evidence, but this one is well above average IMO.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 08:30 PM

I know Skyeagle will sleep better knowing that at least a few peep`s accept his du-dilligenc ! Or how ever its spealled!
You know what I mean! :innocent:

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 12:40 AM

View PostDONTEATUS, on 13 April 2011 - 08:30 PM, said:

I know Skyeagle will sleep better knowing that at least a few peep`s accept his du-dilligenc ! Or how ever its spealled!
You know what I mean! :innocent:

Actually, skyeagle409's "due diligence" didn't really have a thing to do with this story coming out.  (I've seen some glaring examples of this "due diligence" of his.  "Due diligence" is not how would describe it, though.)  As much as the US military's integrity has been dragged through the mud by avid ETH fanatics and pop UFOlogists, at least someone should give credit where credit is due for releasing this story:  The US military.

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