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[Beckys_Mom]

Cybele, on 15 April 2011 - 10:04 PM, said:

So, to experience demons, you have to ingest hallucinogenic jungle brews?

You can experience just about anything after a few too many lol

[Mainpoint]

:PsYKoTiC:BeHAvIoR:, on 15 April 2011 - 01:05 PM, said:

Is that so?

Yep when I used to play Might and Magic on my PC

[ohio state buckeyes]

Demons and possession  will never be proven because if they exist so does god and there would be no need for faith.
I believe  some people could be possessed.

[Beckys_Mom]

ohio state buckeyes, on 15 April 2011 - 10:21 PM, said:

Demons and possession  will never be proven because if they exist so does god and there would be no need for faith.
I believe  some people could be possessed.

God can exist without demons...I beleive so

[ohio state buckeyes]

Beckys_Mom, on 15 April 2011 - 10:24 PM, said:

God can exist without demons...I beleive so

Maybe so but demons can't exist without god.

[Cybele]

ohio state buckeyes, on 16 April 2011 - 12:07 AM, said:

Maybe so but demons can't exist without god.

I'm fairly sure that there are tribal societies which believe in good and bad spirits and lack a higher, god-like figure.

[markprice]

Cybele, on 15 April 2011 - 10:04 PM, said:

So, to experience demons, you have to ingest hallucinogenic jungle brews?

I think it has to be inevitable on some level, like fate and destiny (they are from a timeless realm) and then you drink the special brew or whatever to kick it up a notch at the crossroads.

[Cybele]

markprice, on 16 April 2011 - 12:52 AM, said:

I think it has to be inevitable on some level, like fate and destiny (they are from a timeless realm) and then you drink the special brew or whatever to kick it up a notch at the crossroads.

May I ask if you've ever tried ayahuasca? Even after experimentation with a similar brew, I have a very hard time believing that they do anything more than allow you to "dream" while awake. They're neurotoxins, basically, and not something I'd recommend.

[markprice]

Beckys_Mom, on 15 April 2011 - 07:22 PM, said:

Yea sure - ask - Agent Mulder... he will tell you.. I was taking the piss lol  

I watch too much Supernatural TV shows... got carried away.. so I had my fun...  I just couldnt keep it all up.. I felt as if I was dumbing myself way down...

So you never painted your ceiling--god that's disappointing. When dealing with superhuman mega-intelligence we are all dumbed down to some extent. You either attempt think up to their level or risk losing the game. It's all a game and all too real.  whew, scary stuff  

[markprice]

Cybele, on 16 April 2011 - 01:02 AM, said:

May I ask if you've ever tried ayahuasca? Even after experimentation with a similar brew, I have a very hard time believing that they do anything more than allow you to "dream" while awake. They're neurotoxins, basically, and not something I'd recommend.

Never tried that. I would like to see a neurologist, who claims they can activate religious experience, try something like that on me. I would sign up for it just to make sure I can tell the difference.

[Cybele]

markprice, on 16 April 2011 - 01:14 AM, said:

Never tried that. I would like to see a neurologist, who claims they can activate religious experience, try something like that on me. I would sign up for it just to make sure I can tell the difference.

You should seek out Dr. Michael Persinger, then. Though he uses electromagnetic brain stimulation.

[markprice]

Cybele, on 16 April 2011 - 01:18 AM, said:

You should seek out Dr. Michael Persinger, then. Though he uses electromagnetic brain stimulation.

I looked him up; that seems to be the God Helmet that Ryan used on an episode of Paranormal State. I don't think that would work for me.

[Pierce8]

I think its always best to be open-minded and not give any sound wiser opinion based on self-knowledge. Our brain is hardwired not to believe in things we dont perceive, sense or feel, but we cannot deny the fact that some people has experiences on things we cannot explain. After all imagination is the limit, things like this may exist in other dimensions, universes, we can only imagine them not sense them. And to think that there are still numerous unnamed animals/plants we don't know exist, places that seems unfit to live but there's life.. hmmm life is interesting isn't it.

[wilatabz]

actually people in philippines still strongly believe in the supernatural and nature spirits it goes beyond the Spanish era, up untilnow,if people are wondering why the belief is still strong its because filipinos are not strict Catholics, the Filipino Catholicism is open and welcomes the notion of other beings
someone told me that these nature spirits,good or bad are still alive because people still believe in them, the main key to their existence, possessions in the country are not necessarily made by demons,it could have been because of elves,or dwarves.

[Beckys_Mom]

ohio state buckeyes, on 16 April 2011 - 12:07 AM, said:

Maybe so but demons can't exist without god.

No... think a little harder... demons cannot exist without preachers making them up as a scare tactic to push you closer to the church and god  .

Edited by Beckys_Mom, 16 April 2011 - 08:08 AM.