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#1    Primordiak

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 06:09 PM

Just a few questions with some thoughts, now have a clear open thoughts and mind set about these things. Trying to attack some things at a different angle..

1. in ancient papiya over 3500 years ago during the reign of King Tutmosis III they seen wheels and orbs of fire in the sky for days. What do think they were?

2. The Hieros on the inside of the Temple of Hathor they have reptilian humanoids, what are they and what does it depict??

3. which is the biggest thought of all, the Dendera light, which everyone says that it was a lightbulb, ok open your mind to what I am about to say.

I have not seen all the pics around it and if anyone has them I would like to see them but from what I see, it does look like a light bulb but the inside are snakes that you can plainly see.. OK What if......

This is actually a depiction of a cloning process, healing chamber or growing process for the reptilian humanoids that are pictured in the hieroglyphs. What if (based on the summerian texts about reptilians cloning humans with their DNA etc) this is what was going on there..

http://en.wikipedia....a_light_003.jpg

You see what looks to be a wire going into the ground while at the head of the bulb some type of devise, was this an energy source for growing them?? A device of this nature has not been found while most things that have been n hieroglyphs have been found in one way or another (except the people with animal faces etc. You know what I mean).

http://en.wikipedia....a_light_001.jpg

Clearly you see the heads of the snakes in the "bulbs" is it also a wonder about the head dresses of pharaohs to resemble cobras and have cobras on them?

http://www.aldokkan....ety/pharaoh.htm

Just a few thoughts and questions.


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Posted 04 May 2011 - 06:31 PM

The "lights" themselves are depictions of what they called the "perfection of Harsomtus."

Harsomtus is the Greek form of Horus.

Read this.  The italicized part is taken right off the wall next to the relief you showed:

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The snake on the forehead is the ureus snake visible on the person behind the "lamp", also the person is shown with the hairdo of a young man, so the identification is clear. Most interesting, another Harsomtus spell follows immediately:

Words to speak of Harsomtus, the great god, who dwells in Dendera, who arises from the lotus blossom as the living Ba, whose perfection is carried by the km3tjw-pictures of his Ka, ..., whose body is carried by the dd-pillar, beneath it's ssmw-picture the primeval (Hathor) sits and whose majesty is carried by the companions of his Ka.[27]
Well, that's an almost complete description of the "light bulb" scene. Harsomtus exists two times on the relief, as a young man behind the bulb, and more commonly known as the snake from the lotus blossom at the back of the "bulb" (seen as lamp socket by Krassa/Habeck). The lotus the new sun (Harsomtus) emerges from every morning since the day of creation.

Also this, again, from the same wall:

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"Words to speak of Harsomtus, the great god who dwells in Dendera, the living Ba in the lotus flower of the solar barge"[28]

You can read the full explanation here: http://doernenburg.a...ra/dend05_e.php

It's not a light bulb at all.  It is the new sun emerging from the lotus blossom (see the blossom at the base of your "lightbulb?")  Horus was said to have been born from a lotus blossom.  Horus was one of the "sun gods" of ancient Egypt.

Also, please note that the "electrical cord" is actually the lotus stem, and the stem extends down under the feet of the standing version of Horus.  The stem itself makes an Egyptian barge in the relief and it is on that barge that the scene is depicted.

Barges in Ancient Egypt often had lotus motifs carved into their sterns - exactly as shown in the pic.

Lastly, the entire relief, temple and everything else dates to the Ptolemaic period, making it Greek (hence the use of the name "Harsomtus" instead of Horus.)

The Egyptian reliefs depicting the same idea look much less like light bulbs.  You'll find an example of one on the page I linked.


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Posted 04 May 2011 - 06:41 PM

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1. in ancient papiya over 3500 years ago during the reign of King Tutmosis III they seen wheels and orbs of fire in the sky for days. What do think they were?

There are several possibilities. In the 1500's and 1600's BC there was an eruption of Mount Etna; Mount Vesuvius; Jebel Marra; Hekla, Iceland; Santorini and the Kaalijarv impactor. It wasn't exactly a quiet time, geologically speaking.

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:13 PM

Thanks for that info Harte, I have seen that before but I was just throwing a different perspective on it.

Reason for that is that it doesnt seem like and ionised fumes would be rounded like that, not saying its a light bulb but a "chamber" of some type possibly. The end of it doesn't go into the ground as the one I posted also, it goes into the "energy storage".

Also  the isolator (#7) is holding the object up. either in between it or it is going into the "bulb" to hold the snake up.

Reason I say this is because if it was a bulb possibly then the man standing behind it would be able to be seen but you cannot see his hands or waist while the "isolator" "hands" can be seen inside it.

Also the "knife bringer" (i know its light bringer ACCORDING to this) is coming over, could it possibly be to cut open the "bloom/bulb" for new life/hybrid?

Like I said, just a few alternative thoughts to be open minded about... I would like to see the actual Hieroglyphs myself to read them and see what they say..

Also any idea about #2?

Edited by Primordiak, 04 May 2011 - 07:14 PM.


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Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:17 PM

View PostPrimordiak, on 04 May 2011 - 07:13 PM, said:



I would like to see the actual Hieroglyphs myself to read them and see what they say..


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Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:35 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 04 May 2011 - 07:17 PM, said:

You can start here


Thanks, so in reading some of the things there it can be said that it is possibly some sort of "Birthing Chamber". I dont see how the "cables" are supposed to be what they said but......


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Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:42 PM

View PostPrimordiak, on 04 May 2011 - 07:35 PM, said:

Thanks, so in reading some of the things there it can be said that it is possibly some sort of "Birthing Chamber". I dont see how the "cables" are supposed to be what they said but......

Sorry, hieros is not my thing. I dabble in cuneiform and ancient Greek.

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:57 PM

http://www.everythin...msg1065#msg1065

scroll down a bit and look at the little "bulb" they are attached to nothing but have the "snakes" inside. Incubation??

Also note that in some of them they have pics of reptilians holding a knife coming to them. This is to cut open or assist in the birthing..

The ancients were very descriptive in what they did so saying someone with a Knife was a "lightbringer" they depicted swords, etc very well, I doubt that it is a Light bringer, they are describing the birthing chambers, Giant Lotus/eggs.. Maybe on a certain day/timeframe they were supposed to be hatched/birthed?? which is why they were talking of the sun coming across the horizon??

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 12:09 PM

View PostPrimordiak, on 04 May 2011 - 07:57 PM, said:

scroll down a bit and look at the little "bulb" they are attached to nothing but have the "snakes" inside. Incubation??
No. That is the Egyptian version of the same motif. I mentioned it earlier.

You should read up on the myth of Horus and lotus blossoms.  If you do, you'll see that the reliefs are merely illustrating that myth.

Also, you asked about "#2" in your OP.  Are these snakes in this Egyptian version what you're calling "reptilians?"

I'm afraid I can't help you unless you post what "reptilians" you're talking about.

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 04:56 PM

View PostHarte, on 05 May 2011 - 12:09 PM, said:

No. That is the Egyptian version of the same motif. I mentioned it earlier.

You should read up on the myth of Horus and lotus blossoms.  If you do, you'll see that the reliefs are merely illustrating that myth.

Also, you asked about "#2" in your OP.  Are these snakes in this Egyptian version what you're calling "reptilians?"

I'm afraid I can't help you unless you post what "reptilians" you're talking about.

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No on the actual walls inside they have reptilian beings in their hieroglyphs kind of like the paintings with the knives.. check out the first part of this, I know where it came from but I am looking for more pics of the walls themselves but they seem to be unreleased for some reason...




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Posted 05 May 2011 - 05:36 PM

View PostPrimordiak, on 05 May 2011 - 04:56 PM, said:

check out the first part of this, I know where it came from but I am looking for more pics of the walls themselves but they seem to be unreleased for some reason...
Sorry, I can't view vids at work - youtube is blocked.

I doubt I'll ever see the vid because my kids hog my home computer and I hate sitting through rubbish videos anyway.

The Hathor Temple at Dendera is a tourist attraction.  You can find pics from inside that temple all over the internet.  They don't have to be "released," I've seen them at webshots and fotki for God's sake!

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Edited by Harte, 05 May 2011 - 05:37 PM.

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 05:41 PM

View PostHarte, on 05 May 2011 - 05:36 PM, said:

Sorry, I can't view vids at work - youtube is blocked.

I doubt I'll ever see the vid because my kids hog my home computer and I hate sitting through rubbish videos anyway.

The Hathor Temple at Dendera is a tourist attraction.  You can find pics from inside that temple all over the internet.  They don't have to be "released," I've seen them at webshots and fotki for God's sake!

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Right, here it is
And there is a coffee table book with all murals in it.. sorry no nibblers...

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 10:30 PM

View PostHarte, on 05 May 2011 - 05:36 PM, said:

Sorry, I can't view vids at work - youtube is blocked.

I doubt I'll ever see the vid because my kids hog my home computer and I hate sitting through rubbish videos anyway.

The Hathor Temple at Dendera is a tourist attraction.  You can find pics from inside that temple all over the internet.  They don't have to be "released," I've seen them at webshots and fotki for God's sake!

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Try this: http://proxify.com/

I even showed porn to my collegues to prove that I was able to watch what I wanted to watch by using this proxy server.


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Posted 05 May 2011 - 11:25 PM

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Try this: http://proxify.com/

I even showed porn to my collegues to prove that I was able to watch what I wanted to watch by using this proxy server.

My work I.T must be on the job , your proxy site is blocked to me  :o

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Posted 06 May 2011 - 12:24 PM

Me too.

I'd probably get in trouble for using it anyway.

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