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[booNyzarC]

I'm still hopeful that Mehran Keshe will actually deliver on some of these high ideals, but keep in mind that snake oil salesman pandering panaceas attempted to give the same appearance; "It will cure all of your ills!"  Will Mr. Keshe back up his claims?  Or load up the wagon and roll on to the next town?

I suspect he'll load up the wagon, but I'd love for him to prove that assumption wrong.

[bee]

DONTEATUS, on 25 June 2011 - 04:00 PM, said:

Thanks for the Music Bee ! Its a good thing we all have great Friends in Here ! As for the Iranian Saucers Lets just See what Hits the Show Rooms next Year!
I hear the 2012`s are really Faster ! LoL. seeyaz!

"see what hits the showrooms"....lol....hopefully it won't be a US zappy dappy doo

booNyzarC, on 25 June 2011 - 04:29 PM, said:

I'm still hopeful that Mehran Keshe will actually deliver on some of these high ideals, but keep in mind that snake oil salesman pandering panaceas attempted to give the same appearance; "It will cure all of your ills!"  Will Mr. Keshe back up his claims?  Or load up the wagon and roll on to the next town?

I suspect he'll load up the wagon, but I'd love for him to prove that assumption wrong.

the term 'snake oil salesman' is soooooooooo yesterday....


I can't see what's wrong with having high and hopeful objectives. Heaven knows we could do with some

coming from organizations who might have been sitting on the same (ish) knowledge and technolgy for decades.

As I/we have said before...time will tell.

And as long as there is no hinrance and dirty tricks...maybe he will pull it off?

The space travel...the education...the third-world help et al.

[DONTEATUS]

bee, on 25 June 2011 - 05:16 PM, said:

"see what hits the showrooms"....lol....hopefully it won't be a US zappy dappy doo







the term 'snake oil salesman' is soooooooooo yesterday....


I can't see what's wrong with having high and hopeful objectives. Heaven knows we could do with some

coming from organizations who might have been sitting on the same (ish) knowledge and technolgy for decades.

As I/we have said before...time will tell.

And as long as there is no hinrance and dirty tricks...maybe he will pull it off?

The space travel...the education...the third-world help et al.

We could build three Ark`s Space faring craft that Will hold hundred of thousands of people. We could put all the Bankers ,Lawyers,Bean counters,and the Like on one the A-Ark
Then we put all the Lazy,good for nothing riff-raft`s and the Like on the B-Ark .
THen onto the C-Ark all the Artist,Creative ,,musician`s the Lot onto this Last Craft. ANd Launch A& B off into Deep Space for ever !
ANd then announce to the C-Ark to De-Board back onto the Planet Earth to Re-populate it with Love ,Peace and Blue Jeans !
Farm Out , I would Proclaim !

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[Wyrdlight]

bee, on 13 June 2011 - 02:09 PM, said:

I thought like that a while back...that Iran could end up as a big smouldering radiated hole...

but then came my Bruce Cathie thread...and I am inclined to believe what he says about nuclear war.

ie. that it is not a logical possibility when all the nuclear powers share all the info on the

'windows of opportunity'.

also...the major nuclear powers are finely balanced and I don't think Russia or China would allow

that to happen to Iran

Do you seriously think that Russia or China chould STOP Israel?

The Israeli military is one of the best in the world, if they so wished they would run over and wreck most of Iran in a matter of days, long before anyone could really intervene, yeah they might not be able to occupy territory for a prolonged period, but they could roll in and wreck the infrastructure etc to such an extent that Irans economy would take decades to recover.

IF Iran has nukes and used em, i dont think anyone would intervene, they would wait for the smoke to clear and deal with who ever is left, fact is, Iran would need more than the odd nuke to wipe Israel out and Israel has more than enough air and land assets to take large parts of Iran back to the stone age.

IF Iran has nukes, they would win in the long run, but be vilified and proberly crushed by a international effort, if they dont have nukes, Israel would crush them.  So its lose lose tbh.

[bee]

Wyrdlight, on 25 June 2011 - 10:28 PM, said:

Do you seriously think that Russia or China chould STOP Israel?

yes I do.....one way or another

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The Israeli military is one of the best in the world, if they so wished they would run over and wreck most of Iran in a matter of days, long before anyone could really intervene, yeah they might not be able to occupy territory for a prolonged period, but they could roll in and wreck the infrastructure etc to such an extent that Irans economy would take decades to recover.

IF Iran has nukes and used em, i dont think anyone would intervene, they would wait for the smoke to clear and deal with who ever is left, fact is, Iran would need more than the odd nuke to wipe Israel out and Israel has more than enough air and land assets to take large parts of Iran back to the stone age.

IF Iran has nukes, they would win in the long run, but be vilified and proberly crushed by a international effort, if they dont have nukes, Israel would crush them.  So its lose lose tbh.

This thread isn't about Iran's nuclear weapon capability....but I personally don't think Iran

will bother to spend all that time and money on obtaining nuclear weapons, that they would

never get the chance to use.

Israel is part of the International Community and as such would have to have a damn good reason

to go for all out war with Iran.


This thread is about Iran's ambitions for Space travel technology, in partnership with Mehran

Keshe and the Keshe Foundation.

I think that the technology that Keshe is talking about publically is probably technology that

other nations...like the US and Russia....have had for a long time...but have kept under wraps.

And that the same kind of technology would be used in some way for space/inter-dimensional travel

by 'beings' from elsewhere.....or beings connected to this earth, but existing in a different

space/time.



thanks for your comments, though.....there are interesting political aspects to this whole thing.

as I have said...not so much regarding weapons but regarding space travel technology...

Edited by bee, 26 June 2011 - 09:09 AM.

[bee]

DONTEATUS, on 25 June 2011 - 10:09 PM, said:

We could build three Ark`s Space faring craft that Will hold hundred of thousands of people. We could put all the Bankers ,Lawyers,Bean counters,and the Like on one the A-Ark
Then we put all the Lazy,good for nothing riff-raft`s and the Like on the B-Ark .
THen onto the C-Ark all the Artist,Creative ,,musician`s the Lot onto this Last Craft. ANd Launch A& B off into Deep Space for ever !
ANd then announce to the C-Ark to De-Board back onto the Planet Earth to Re-populate it with Love ,Peace and Blue Jeans !
Farm Out , I would Proclaim !

lol...well that certainly is a plan....

but, at the end of the day, we're all in this together, whether we like it or not!!

  

[booNyzarC]

Wow...  just came across a thread from 2009...

Read this.

And then tell me that Keshe might be on the up and up...

[arenee]

booNyzarC, on 02 July 2011 - 05:10 AM, said:

Wow...  just came across a thread from 2009...

Read this.

And then tell me that Keshe might be on the up and up...

Things that make you go...hmmmm.

[lost_shaman]

booNyzarC, on 02 July 2011 - 05:10 AM, said:

Wow...  just came across a thread from 2009...

Read this.

And then tell me that Keshe might be on the up and up...

Think I said as much. Good to have more confirmation though! Thanks.

[bee]

booNyzarC, on 02 July 2011 - 05:10 AM, said:

Wow...  just came across a thread from 2009...

Read this.

And then tell me that Keshe might be on the up and up...

You say 'wow'...but I don't know why.

I've looked at the thread you've linked to and my first impression was that it was what

I think of as an 'Aunt Sally' thread...something created just to be knocked down.

I've done a mini research on the thread starter and he doesn't look very reliable..

Here's just one of the places he's posted....




http://srv349.rackco...tyleid=[b]2[/b]


and from one of Kumaran's emails to the Keshe Foundation....

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I am very sorry for any inconvenience I may be causing you. But it is all due to me suffering from schizrophrenia. I cant think straight. I cant study or work or anything. This is the reason why sometimes I support you and sometimes I dont. I cant help it. You might see more scam messages till 21.3.2010 when you demonstrate the technology. I cant help it. I am in two minds about you. I just dont know what to think. Initially I was planning to become your greatest supporter and fan. But one day I just asked you to show a few videos on your forum and you started scolding me. That is what started me off on the path of calling you a scam. My disease makes me suspicious of people. I am truly sorry but you have to forgive me. I cant help it. You are just a punching bag to relieve my stress and frustrations of the world.

[DONTEATUS]

Can you say Train Wreck?

[booNyzarC]

bee, on 10 July 2011 - 07:44 PM, said:

You say 'wow'...but I don't know why.

I've looked at the thread you've linked to and my first impression was that it was what

I think of as an 'Aunt Sally' thread...something created just to be knocked down.

I've done a mini research on the thread starter and he doesn't look very reliable..

Here's just one of the places he's posted....




http://srv349.rackco...tyleid=[b]2[/b]


and from one of Kumaran's emails to the Keshe Foundation....

Kumaran wasn't the source of the "Wow."  It was the hardy debunking by sepulchrave.  Or I suppose you don't accept that sepulchrave essentially ran off Mr. Keshe with points and questions that Keshe apparently couldn't adequately answer?

By all means, perhaps you should invite Mr. Keshe back here to respond to those points raised by sepulchrave.  Or at least ask him why he didn't bother addressing them in the first place?  To the average observer it looks a lot like he just tucked tail and ran after realizing that the jig was up.

[bee]

booNyzarC, on 10 July 2011 - 08:21 PM, said:

Kumaran wasn't the source of the "Wow."  It was the hardy debunking by sepulchrave.  Or I suppose you don't accept that sepulchrave essentially ran off Mr. Keshe with points and questions that Keshe apparently couldn't adequately answer?

By all means, perhaps you should invite Mr. Keshe back here to respond to those points raised by sepulchrave.  Or at least ask him why he didn't bother addressing them in the first place?  To the average observer it looks a lot like he just tucked tail and ran after realizing that the jig was up.

I wouldn't call it a 'hardy debunking'.

Keshe answered his points.


It wasn't a very good start from sepulchrave....

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I don't know what kind of `physics' Dr. Keshe is referring to in the video. I watched the first few minutes, then turned it off after I had counted far too many errors.

and at some point sepulchrave says 'I'm placing my bets on mainstream science'

(just like YOU..... )


and that is the nitty gritty. There is information coming from whistleblowers right left and
centre about advanced technology that the public have not been privy to.

the stuff that Keshe is working with/on is probably the same or similar to what has been done
behind closed doors previously ...



I am reminded of what Ben Rich (Lockheed Martin Skunk Works) said...



http://www.ufo-blogg...heed-skunk.html

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“We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects, and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity. Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do.”

.

[booNyzarC]

bee, on 10 July 2011 - 09:16 PM, said:

I wouldn't call it a 'hardy debunking'.

I'm not surprised.

bee, on 10 July 2011 - 09:16 PM, said:

Keshe answered his points.

He did?  How do you figure?  Keshe had two posts in the whole thread.  He rapidly disappeared after sepulchrave tore apart his supposed answers in post #9.

bee, on 10 July 2011 - 09:16 PM, said:

It wasn't a very good start from sepulchrave....

Can you blame him?  Keshe starts with a fallacious premise.  That was the whole point sepulchrave was making with that statement.  He could tell within moments that it was going to be a load of tosh.

bee, on 10 July 2011 - 09:16 PM, said:

and at some point sepulchrave says 'I'm placing my bets on mainstream science'

(just like YOU..... )

He is a smart fella.

bee, on 10 July 2011 - 09:16 PM, said:

and that is the nitty gritty. There is information coming from whistleblowers right left and
centre about advanced technology that the public have not been privy to.

the stuff that Keshe is working with/on is probably the same or similar to what has been done
behind closed doors previously ...

Oh yes, I'm sure his wonderful discoveries will revolutionize life as we know it.

bee, on 10 July 2011 - 09:16 PM, said:

I am reminded of what Ben Rich (Lockheed Martin Skunk Works) said...



http://www.ufo-blogg...heed-skunk.html



.

Ah yes, more gems from the junk drawer.



Cheers bee, and welcome back from your trip.

It is good to see you.  Hope you had a great time!


Oh, by the way, there is a thread somewhere around here regarding another of your favorites; Hoagland.  You might want to go fight the good fight because his latest prediction is getting summarily laughed at by the general populace.  He has connected some very interesting dots for this latest one...

[TheMcGuffin]

Hazzard, on 11 June 2011 - 08:55 PM, said:

Im sorry, bee, but,...    

No... to all of it.

Well, that settles it, doesn't it?  When did you become a big expert on Iran?  LOL.