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[Etu Malku]

SSilhouette, on 23 August 2012 - 08:25 PM, said:

They can and they have.  Do you not watch the paranormal shows on your TV?  Have you not seen the empirical evidence being gathered there?  If that doesn't qualify, what will?  Can belief [even sceptical] be so religious in its nature that it shuts out even empirical evidence that contrasts with its dogma?  Scepticism can become a religion in itself.  Be careful of that.

I've seen some of those shows, nothing really convincing, just some photographic distortion in dark lit rooms or garbled recordings. You do know that stuff is "entertainment" don't you?

Believe me, if something truly paranormal was discovered the world of science would be all over it in seconds.

Edited by Etu Malku, 23 August 2012 - 08:38 PM.

[Seeker79]

Who shared? How was it documented? What exactly did they share?

Look I'm no stranger even to shared experiences.... But seeming how every  "paranormal"  investigator and psy teeny claim "shared experiences " why should anyone take it seriously? Did the shared experience have horns? Wings? A face? Eyes, nose, a mouth? A black mass? What?

[SSilhouette]

People getting smacked in the head with flying dishes should take it seriously.  I would think.

[Etu Malku]

SSilhouette, on 24 August 2012 - 12:20 AM, said:

People getting smacked in the head with flying dishes should take it seriously.  I would think.

I'm sure there's a logical explanation

[SSilhouette]

Yes, it's perfectly logical to have no one in a room, have a plate pick itself up several vertical feet in the air, levitate, aim,  then hurl through the air and smack you upside the head...with witnesses.  Wake up and smell the paranormal.  This type of stuff has been documented.  And by the roman catholic church among many others, no less.

[Seeker79]

SSilhouette, on 24 August 2012 - 12:20 AM, said:

People getting smacked in the head with flying dishes should take it seriously.  I would think.

I would think to.... But no plates have smacked me in the head. Why should I believe such stories. My dads catfish just before he died made its way to 120 lbs. it was in the news paper and everything. After he died I managed to look up the article... It was realy 72lbs. Funny thing is .... In the end I think he really believed it was 120.

[SSilhouette]

Well there you go.  That proves the paranormal isn't real...lol...  I'm pretty sure you can't extrapolate one catfish story to explain thousands of documented cases of paranormal possessions and ghost activity.

[pallidin]

As demons are a pigment of my imagination, I demand a new color change.  

[Seeker79]

SSilhouette, on 24 August 2012 - 07:04 AM, said:

Well there you go.  That proves the paranormal isn't real...lol...  I'm pretty sure you can't extrapolate one catfish story to explain thousands of documented cases of paranormal possessions and ghost activity.

Look... I am the last person to be saying the paranormal dosnt exist.  I was originally talking about demons not spirits. I do believe in spirits I have close relationships with a few, but I am extremely sketical about the typical flying objects, orbs , etc.

In fact it just gives more fuel for the hard line skeptics. And rightly so.

[Etu Malku]

SSilhouette, on 24 August 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

This type of stuff has been documented. And by the roman catholic church among many others, no less.

LMOA, now there's a credible establishment!
This stuff may be documented but it is not properly documented.
But, I'm not going to argue with you, I wasn't there, maybe it did happen without any logical explanation.

[SSilhouette]

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I am the last person to be saying the paranormal dosnt exist.  I was originally talking about demons not spirits. I do believe in spirits I have close relationships with a few, but I am extremely sketical about the typical flying objects, orbs , etc.

In fact it just gives more fuel for the hard line skeptics. And rightly so

Who cares what the sceptics are saying?  That's like a log in the path that you can deftly step over on your way to help people with real hardships at the hands of the unseen.  Sceptics are nice for ballast.  But when they become the size of a mountain, a religion in itself, that's when their weight can put a hole in the bottom of the ship and sink it with everyone on board...
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Edited by SSilhouette, 24 August 2012 - 03:41 PM.

[Seeker79]

SSilhouette, on 24 August 2012 - 03:39 PM, said:

Who cares what the sceptics are saying?  That's like a log in the path that you can deftly step over on your way to help people with real hardships at the hands of the unseen.  Sceptics are nice for ballast.  But when they become the size of a mountain, a religion in itself, that's when their weight can put a hole in the bottom of the ship and sink it with everyone on board...
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Mehhh... in many cases the skeptics are right. They serve a valuable function. I am skeptical about many things myself. Without skepticism people might just be Drinking the magic punch all the time.

In fact the Believer should be the most skeptical.

[SSilhouette]

Yes, they serve a valuable function.  Please read my last post to see where that function steps beyond its service and becomes a burden to exploration.

[Seeker79]

SSilhouette, on 24 August 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:

Yes, they serve a valuable function.  Please read my last post to see where that function steps beyond its service and becomes a burden to exploration.

Well I'm going to have to agree with you. There is an institutionalized dogma. It's pretty powerful especially with normal people. many normal people are afraid to talk about even things like sleep paralysis. You should watch the long interview with dr.... HubburtdI think, and his comments on academic dogma and the cultural eraser of sleep paralysis.

You have to understand why I get involved fighting flying plates and orb..."evidence". It only contributes to skeptical dogma because it makes them right.., in those instances. There is other entirely different and powerful bodies of knowledge.

Here it is

[SSilhouette]

Yes.  Eddies of thought are one of the demons'/parasites' greatest art forms.  To lure a person into believing they have the "right philiosphy" is a matter of ease.  From there, they can keep a person from escaping that box.  And when in a box, capitvity begins.  That's why demons hate the phrase "think outside the box".  That goes for people who believe too much without proof as well as those who believe too much IN proof.

It's not really a paradox if you keep a truly open mind.