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#751    Tim Hebert

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 07:18 PM

As far as the launcher closure doors on top of the LF, I believe they weigh in at approximately 80 tons and heavily re-enforced with steel.  If memory serves me correct, the doors had thick naval strength steel plating sandwich in between the re-enforced concrete, so someone could jack hammer away only to come into contact with the heavy steel plate.  Thickness of the plate eludes me at this time.

For further thoughts on HICS system, Malmstrom's 564th SMS and the 321st SMW located at Grand Forks, ND, had the Sylvania LCCs (much roomier, than mine)and a slight different command and control system.  Sylvania implemented a redundant capability to send out radio commands as well as cable commands.  I always felt that this was why Ray Fowler, a Sylvania project manager, was interested in the Echo engineering analysis efforts due to any possible effect on the radio command component of the Sylvania system in the 564th which was not quite operational in March 1967...honestly a guess on my part.


ETA: I noticed that today is lost_shaman's birthday, happy birthday and best wishes!

Edited by Tim Hebert, 18 August 2011 - 07:22 PM.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 03:56 AM

James Carlson posted earlier this morning that Col. Fred Meiwald passed away earlier August 2012.  Col. Meiwald was the crew commander on duty with Robert Salas at Oscar Flight on 24 March 1967.

Setting aside the UFO allegations,  it's my hope that Col. Meiwald will be remembered for his service to his country, first and foremost.  My prayers go out to his family, especially to his wife of 48 years.

All of the individuals affected by these series of UFO events, whether real or not, served in a difficult era that taxed ones morality and ethical view points as the geo-political landscape was totally different as compared today.  I only know this all too well as I also served under the same environment back in the 1980s.

RIP, Fred Meiwald.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 05:25 AM

Thank you Tim.

I am sorry to hear the sad news. My deepest sympathies and respect.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 04:15 PM

very sad indeed.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 04:21 AM

Sad to hear that... My sympathies to the Meiwald Family.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 11:37 PM

Thank you for letting us know Tim, it is indeed sad news and I likewise extend my sympathies to his friends and family.

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