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[Mikenator]

I don't think its possible but how crazy would it be if it turned out to be a giant turtle

[Mr. Zero]

Here is the Ocean X team website in case anyone is interested: http://www.oceanexplorer.se/

Now, I try to keep an open mind on the subject of alien life, and they claim that they've detected low levels of radiation coming from the object. HOWEVER: the whole nature of their site bothers me. They talk about the commercial opportunity of the endeavor, and there is a full blown trailer with lots of CGI depicting a flaming craft crashing into the ocean.

It seems to me that they are jumping the gun a bit. I have to question their objectivity and the motive behind the project.

[bison]

I've been looking in at that website from time to time, but it isn't updated very often. Last entry was May 20th. A low level of radiation at the site could be entirely natural. Rocks and soil can emit radon, which is radioactive, so can springs.  The animated video of a space ship crashing into the sea is just imaginative speculation, though the possibility can not be entirely ruled out.  Dennis Asberg and Peter Lindberg of Ocean Explorer have been quite careful to not claim to know what the object is. Lindberg even went out of his way to say that he isn't a 'ufo believer'. They now have a small passenger submarine for taking people down to see old shipwrecks they've found. I wouldn't blame them if they expanded  this to cover a space ship wreck, if that's what this turns out to be.

[EllJay]

I posted this in the Baltic Sea UFO Discovery here in the UFO-section of this forum (double threads it seems)>>


A crappy Google-translation (for you all to decipher) of two newspaper articles:

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The huge circle on the bottom of the Baltic has aroused international curiosity and excitement.

Still, nobody knows what the object is.





But now the treasure hunters who found it to give us the answer to the riddle.

- We have put everything we own, says diver Dennis Åsberg.

Dennis Atkins and Peter Lindberg is divers and treasure hunters. They proceed to look for old wrecks and other objects on the Baltic seabed.

Fifteen years ago Peter Lindberg found the wreck of Jönköping with vodka and champagne on board worth millions of dollars. Last summer they made a new discovery - but of an entirely different character.
90 meters long

They then systematically searched the seabed in an area of ​​the Baltic Sea by using a sonar. Suddenly recounted the instrument a remarkable formation of 87 meters. It was circular, about 90 feet in diameter, and there was something that looked like a drag mark in the 300 meters next to it.

They had never seen anything like it. But they had at that time neither the time nor the resources to make it down to the bottom and take a closer look.

But curiosity is aroused and they decided to tell about the discovery public. Then have all moved on. There has been explosive, and in addition a large number of Nordic media also has several U.S. television channels from them and made elements and features.
Gas discovery and meteor?

No one knows yet what it is. It has been speculated, from a UFO to a natural rock formation.

- The most plausible theory I've heard is that there may be a gas discovery or meteorite, said Dennis Åsberg.

Now they are finally out and explore the circle closer. Using its own funds and sponsors, they have bought and equipped a vessel for the expedition. Several TV crews, divers and a wide range of techniques and co-financiers to be along for the ride.

Tomorrow it's off.

- Now the adventure begins. We will go there, it takes two days. Then we examine the bottom with a robot so that there are no toxins. The next step will be to send down three divers, said Dennis Åsberg.
Russians and Americans in the vicinity

The place where the object is located is secret, but there is still a concern among the team that someone has got there before it. The area lies in international waters and there are no laws that prevent others to explore the bottom.

- Right now it's a military exercise in the area where both Russians and Americans are involved. I can not help but wonder why it is happening right now, said Dennis Åsberg.

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UFO hunting on the sea floor

Expedition to solve the mystical puzzle

  Mysterious circle - in the middle of the Baltic Sea,  A mine? A UFO?

Soon we have the answer.

The treasurhunters who found the mysterious circle on the Baltic Sea has returned to the site.

- We are confident that we found something really cool, says diver Dennis Åsberg.

In the evening the ship sailed Ancylus from Norrtälje harbor out to the Baltic plains.

The expedition of eleven men and a film team had the goal aware of - a circle on the ocean floor. It was discovered June 19 last year and has puzzled people around the world since then.
"Very surprised"

It has after all been a long time.

Is the circle remain caught in the probe images?

- Let's hope so. I really hope so, says diver Dennis Atkins.

He and colleague Peter Lindberg is divers and treasure hunters. They proceed to look for old wrecks and other objects on the Baltic seabed. For almost a year ago showed the picture up on their radar at three o'clock at night.

- We were looking for something else and was very surprised, said Dennis Åsberg.
The trip takes two weeks

Skattletarna have invested a year of their time and everything they own. They've even bought a boat.

- We are confident that we've found something really cool and that is why we are extra cautious about saying too much. For then there is risk that someone will find it here, says Dennis Åsberg.

The place is "super secret", but the journey there is long.

They loaded the day the ship with at least ten sacks of potatoes, as many sausage rings, lots of ketchup, chips and gallons of milk.

First of two days they arrived at the site.

If additional days are planned first dive to 90 meters deep where the circle is waiting with its 60 meters in span.

- We believe that the expedition will take two weeks. If we find something interesting, we will be there as long as necessary.

I dont think its a USO in the sense of an alien craft, but I'm sure interested to see what they find.

Someone suggested it was the bathtub-plug of the ocean, and advised them not to pull it.



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Edited by EllJay, 03 June 2012 - 09:01 PM.

[Erudite Celt]

Winter Summer, on 03 July 2011 - 08:21 PM, said:

60 meters = 196.850 feet.  Not even the Titanic could carry that thing.  It's probably safe to cross anchor off the list.  It's still an amazing find.

I concur with your most brilliant observation " Winter Summer " an anchor is most definably out of the question. It maybe however  " The Plug for the Baltic Sea" !!!
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[Erudite Celt]

If I may offer my own humble though not uninformed opinion. The Baltic and many of it's surrounding regions have a collection of some of the worlds best thermal spa's and mud bathes. This seems to be an up-welling of a thermal mud spring. The sea bed track is in effect a slick of heavy calciferous clays driven away from the mouth of the up-welling by the prevailing sea bed currents. Even in the wet environment of the sea bed clays can still harden in contact with water. The rectangular fissures happened when the mud spring erupted.

[cerberusxp]

Where is the follow up? I just searched Ocean Explorer home site>>>NOTHING page wiped.

18 meters = 60 feet not 60 meters. My house is 70 feet, a large object for sure.

Edited by cerberusxp, 04 June 2012 - 04:33 PM.

[cerberusxp]

Erudite Celt, on 04 June 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

If I may offer my own humble though not uninformed opinion. The Baltic and many of it's surrounding regions have a collection of some of the worlds best thermal spa's and mud bathes. This seems to be an up-welling of a thermal mud spring. The sea bed track is in effect a slick of heavy calciferous clays driven away from the mouth of the up-welling by the prevailing sea bed currents. Even in the wet environment of the sea bed clays can still harden in contact with water. The rectangular fissures happened when the mud spring erupted.

As you can see the depth from beginning of the track 985 feet they do not show depth at resting place, Too bad they didn't include that as well. Too bad they didn't bother to show the distance of the track. How ever this can be determined by the size of the object.and then calculate distance.

It appears to me that the object was traveling when it encountered the sea bed with force. Notice the debris field as it went it disturbed and scattered debris off the bottom. Note impact point and debris field.

Edited by cerberusxp, 04 June 2012 - 04:29 PM.

[bison]

I just checked the Ocean Explorer website again. They've added two new entries, one for June 1st, the other for the 4th, since yesterday. The latter entry explains that the weather was poor and apparently caused delays, but has now improved. Their ship, the Ancylus, looks quite large, judging by the photograph of it at sea. I believe the confusion about the diameter of the 'disk' began when someone mistakenly converted 60 meters to 60 feet. It been repeatedly stated that the object is about 60 meters in diameter, or roughly 200 feet. Link to ocean explorer website:   http://www.oceanexplorer.se

Edited by bison, 04 June 2012 - 05:02 PM.

[Erudite Celt]

The increased radiation levels are just what one would expect with a thermal mud-spring. Radon gas and what are known as Radon gas Daughter compounds are a very common feature of such springs. In fact in the Baltic area they are the norm.

[bison]

If they found that the 'disk' was really a thermal spring, this would be a significant discovery in itself. I checked three sources; no known thermal springs in Sweden. If there were one on the sea floor near Sweden, it seems not  unlikely that there would also be some, already known, on land.

[WhyDontYouBeliEveMe]

Myles, on 31 May 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

Why would they do that?

if you find  a goldmine .  on the spot where you are fishing.!   would you go and tell  your entire neightborehood ? so that they can go there and dig out the gold ? no you would say you found something ,somewhere... that could be the  discovery of the century.

and when you dont have the resource to dig it out.. you lie to get funds so you can dig ! take some pictures,show off,tell them it could be this or that..
after you retrieved it .  you lie again.  so that no1 can claim it . and off you go .. never hear anything from you again... ...... ...
imagine the technologie . if its an ufo/uso !  they would start a war over it ! .. thats why they must lie ! ...

[Myles]

WhyDontYouBeliEveMe, on 04 June 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

if you find  a goldmine .  on the spot where you are fishing.!   would you go and tell  your entire neightborehood ? so that they can go there and dig out the gold ? no you would say you found something ,somewhere... that could be the  discovery of the century.

and when you dont have the resource to dig it out.. you lie to get funds so you can dig ! take some pictures,show off,tell them it could be this or that..
after you retrieved it .  you lie again.  so that no1 can claim it . and off you go .. never hear anything from you again... ...... ...
imagine the technologie . if its an ufo/uso !  they would start a war over it ! .. thats why they must lie ! ...

So it's not even in the Baltic?

[WoIverine]

60 feet may just be the top of whatever it is. If it's a craft, it might be like a bridge or something. It could actually be much larger if it's been covered with sediment.

Edited by Spid3rCyd3, 04 June 2012 - 08:24 PM.

[Erudite Celt]

bison, on 04 June 2012 - 06:11 PM, said:

If they found that the 'disk' was really a thermal spring, this would be a significant discovery in itself. I checked three sources; no known thermal springs in Sweden. If there were one on the sea floor near Sweden, it seems not  unlikely that there would also be some, already known, on land.

Hi Bison recent surveys  of the Baltic Basin on the Scandinavian shelf show a huge amount of thermal activity. The following excerpt is from the Lithuanian institute of Geology and Geography: http://engine.brgm.f...#anchor23c0b5cf
Scandinavia
Balling (1995) provided correlation of the basement rocks heat production and surface heat flow of southern Fennoscandian Shield Q=32.8+7.6A that is compatible to that of Estonia. It indicates rather high mantle and lower-middle crustal heat flow, which is much higher than that in the Finland geothermal province. The maximum heat production ranging from 1.5 µWm/m3 to 3.5 µWm/m3 is related to Trans-Scandinavian igneous belt.