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The Mysterious Death of Thelma Todd


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#31    JonathanVonErich

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:28 PM

View PostAntilles, on 02 March 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

Write a book? Should be you Jon.
So a french-Canadian living in cold, freezing Quebec City should write a book about an actress who was murdered in LA !? Why not !  :P

Thank you dear friend, I'm a good researcher, not yet a good enough writer.

And thank you for the link, great job as always. Some very interesting infos coming from that site.

I particulary like this picture:

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(courtesy: http://homepage.mac..../truecrime.html)

Great find. :tu:


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Posted 04 March 2012 - 06:14 AM

http://www.usc.edu/l...ndals/todd.html

My main objection to her death being a suicide is how did she manage to walk up that steep, long flight of stairs in those shoes (and they were the shoes she was wearing) and not get any marks on the soles.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 08:15 PM

View PostAntilles, on 04 March 2012 - 06:14 AM, said:

http://www.usc.edu/l...ndals/todd.html

My main objection to her death being a suicide is how did she manage to walk up that steep, long flight of stairs in those shoes (and they were the shoes she was wearing) and not get any marks on the soles.
After reading the "Black Dahlia Files" I'm now convinced that Thelma was murdered, and that Siegel was probably the killer. :yes:

Edited by JonathanVonErich, 05 March 2012 - 08:15 PM.


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Posted 05 April 2012 - 05:21 AM

sad for the death of the Thelma Todd....i want to know that who is Mob.


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Posted 09 April 2012 - 05:30 AM

View Posteinfopedia, on 05 April 2012 - 05:21 AM, said:

sad for the death of the Thelma Todd....i want to know that who is Mob.

Hi there. Do you mean you think the Mob was responsible for her death? I agree.


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Posted 04 May 2012 - 01:48 PM

View PostAntilles, on 09 April 2012 - 05:30 AM, said:

Hi there. Do you mean you think the Mob was responsible for her death? I agree.
You were right from the beginning, dear friend ! :)

During the last month or so I've heard that a book on the life and death of Thelma Todd is on the work. I'm keeping you posted, I'm looking for more information. :yes:


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Posted 06 May 2012 - 04:25 AM

Well I just received the information that the book about the life and death of Thelma was released.....4 months ago, in January !! Surprising.

"The life and death of Thelma Todd", written by William Donati, is the ultimate biography about Thelma. The book is already in my Amazon shopping cart, can't wait to read it ! :yes:

The book is available on Amazon.com right here: http://www.amazon.co...m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 12:47 PM

Jon, just been reading and it's a biography. I don't think it's the ultimate bio. Gives Luciano and Bugsy's whereabouts for the night in question but no-one sensible has ever suggested that either of them killed her themselves.

Interesting read but it doesn't change my mind one bit about who killed Hot Toddy.


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Posted 06 May 2012 - 03:50 PM

Hey Ant, thanks for the info buddy. :tu:

Talking about Hot Toddy I think I'm gonna buy this book, written in 1989, Hot Toddy by Andy Edmonds. I know the book is far from being perfect, that there's mistakes in it, but I think I'm gonna buy it, plenty of cheap copies on Amazon.


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Posted 14 May 2012 - 11:04 AM

The Andy Edmonds book has lots of mistakes so I understand. But hey, it's worth reading.

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http://thesilentmovi...of-thelma-todd/


That's a hell of a climb for a woman in an evening dress wearing high heeled shoes that don't have any wear and tear on the soles.


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Posted 14 May 2012 - 11:38 PM

Wow, great link my friend, plenty of very interesting pictures. :tu:

I really like the first picture you shared in your last post. I'm gonna be honest here; I really don't understand how some people still believe that she committed suicide or that she died accidentally ( felt asleep in the car ), there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that Thelma was murdered. From what I've read in Wolfe's book ( not the most reliable source I know, but still I believe the theory is possible ) I am 70% convinced that Siegel or an associate of Bugsy was the murderer.

I hate to say it, but whoever killed Thelma did a very good job. Almost 80 years later the case is still "unsolved"


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Posted 15 May 2012 - 11:05 AM

View PostJonathanVonErich, on 14 May 2012 - 11:38 PM, said:

Wow, great link my friend, plenty of very interesting pictures. :tu:

I really like the first picture you shared in your last post. I'm gonna be honest here; I really don't understand how some people still believe that she committed suicide or that she died accidentally ( felt asleep in the car ), there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that Thelma was murdered. From what I've read in Wolfe's book ( not the most reliable source I know, but still I believe the theory is possible ) I am 70% convinced that Siegel or an associate of Bugsy was the murderer.

I hate to say it, but whoever killed Thelma did a very good job. Almost 80 years later the case is still "unsolved"

I agree with you about Wolfe. His books are interesting reads - whether about BD or Marilyn Monroe or Thelma, but they're not always the most reliable. According to the site, the photo was taken the day Todd's body was found. You can clearly see the long staircase to the left of the photo and the small grove of trees where the house was located. That's why I posted it.
I don't believe she committed suicide. I  never will.
She was killed by professionals and her murder was covered up by professionals.

I'm a great fan of Raymond Chandler stories and I used to think his portrayal of LA law enforcement was over the top. But I'm not so sure any more.


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Posted 17 May 2012 - 01:25 AM

View PostAntilles, on 15 May 2012 - 11:05 AM, said:

I agree with you about Wolfe. His books are interesting reads - whether about BD or Marilyn Monroe or Thelma, but they're not always the most reliable. According to the site, the photo was taken the day Todd's body was found. You can clearly see the long staircase to the left of the photo and the small grove of trees where the house was located. That's why I posted it.
I don't believe she committed suicide. I  never will.
She was killed by professionals and her murder was covered up by professionals.

I'm a great fan of Raymond Chandler stories and I used to think his portrayal of LA law enforcement was over the top. But I'm not so sure any more.

Great post Ant.

I've read 2 or 3 novels written by Chandler, very interesting author. :yes:

It's very well documented that back in the 1930's and 40's L.A. was the city of corruption and that every major police department in the city was infiltrated by members of the underworld, corrupt officers, liars and lowlifes.

The best books about corruption and the L.A. police department in the 30's, 40's and 50's are:

* THICKER'N THIEVES: The 1950 Factual Expose of Police-Pay-Offs, Graft, Political Corruption and Prostitution in Los Angeles and Hollywood, by Charles Stoker
http://www.amazon.co...37217664&sr=8-1

* LAPD Rogue Cops, by Vincent A. Carter  http://www.amazon.co...50&sr=1-1-fkmr1


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Posted 17 May 2012 - 07:53 PM

omg she was gorgeous. ;)


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Posted 17 May 2012 - 09:32 PM

View PostInsightful Waffles, on 17 May 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

omg she was gorgeous. ;)

Gorgeous and very talented. :yes:



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