To me this implies that you felt my form of awakening is inferior, because the body is still there to feel pain. I am thus likely to assume that you are talking about an awakened /resurrected state, in which there is no pain. Otherwise you will also require control, and will not have freedom from pain.
The problem is not mine. It may be yours, or it may be a natural lack of comprehension by both of us. For example, i still haven't been able to get from you a straight answer as to the nature of your "awakening" after "resurrection: . Tha tmakes it hard to compare my pov with yours. My posts are continuous. I am merely extending them and trying to reply to your own feed back. If you can be bothered to explain precisely how and why you feel i am lacking continuity, i will attempt to rely.
I have no idea what you are talking about. And i am begining to doubt that you have a clear understanding in your own mind. As a mod recently pointed out many posters claim special knowledge but make no attempt to clearly describe it This serves absolutley no useful purpose and simply frustrates genuine seekers for the truth. As you point out, people are dead or alive NO ONE has ever recovered from being completely dead (as opposed to mostly dead) Thus no one is around to describe what it is like to be awakened from death; and so I have difficulty understanding what on earth you are talking about in your concept of awakening, or where you came by your information.
It MUST be a philosophical, theological, or metaphysical construct of an idea or concept, rather than the description or narration of a real event, by one or more human beings.
Then pardon my dullness but what is the form of awakening you are referring to and /or what human experience IS it connected to?
All you have to do is read the words i wrote, and take note of the punctuation, and you wil notice it was written as an analogy. If you are going to be rude, i will just say that I did not mention this fact before, out of kindness and consideration for you I didnt want to make you look dumb.
Any reasonable english student would have recognised it for an analogy when they read it.
"Ps "caught with your pants down" only becomes an analogy when it is cross referenced to another descriptive phrase. Metaphors and similes are thus analogies. Your statement is almost half of a simile, and thus only half of an analogy. Eg "being caught without toilet paper is like being caught with your pants down" is a simile, and an analogy
Yes, people are either dead or alive (still dreaming). In the case of the Lazarus Syndrome, they were absolutely dead, but came back to life. Lazarus Syndrome is not the same as NDE. NDE is an impeding death; the mind goes into a dream or dream-like state (full of mind), until death really takes over. Lazarus Syndrome is absolutely dead, but a person comes back, resurrected. There is "no mind" in that specific situation.
Right, this thread is not about your ... ummm ... divinity-like nature, but I don't believe you're turning 60. You're probably a spoiled 16 yro. Besides, do you really believe that you're made up of "energy," a measurable phenomenon?
We are looping. Later, kid.
For those who are following this "awakening" thread, I'm baffled why "awakening" has become such a trendy topic because it doesn't really solve anything. You still don't get your own way, completely. "Bad" timing is still unstoppable. The things you cherish will get taken away from you... Most of all, you will know that you are not free, and freedom is not attainable while you are an "awakened" being. So, what's the big deal? Is acceptance or surrender all there is (if you decide to incarnate again and again)? Yes, but I also have a deep belief in prayer. What's there to lose by doing it? If all else fails, I pray like Aretha Franklin.
Edited by momentsinlove, 14 August 2011 - 09:46 AM.