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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 02:49 PM

www.heraldsun.com.au said:

A MYTHICAL swamp monster "hiding" under Auckland is threatening to derail a project to improve the New Zealand city's traffic gridlock.

The North Island city is trying to move ahead with a multi-billion railway tunnel project to improve the minimal train network and free up its car-filled streets.

But Horotiu, a mythical monster, put the NZ$2.6 billion ($2.1 billion) project in doubt after an indigenous Maori board protested that it will destroy grounds once patrolled by the make-believe taniwha, pronounced tani-fa.

Glenn Wilcox, a member of the Maori Statutory Board, which protects Maori interests, complained that the plan did not take into account the monster, which "was here first".

The taniwha is a mythical protector with a powerful role in Maori folklore, but get it angry and you're in trouble, Mr Wilcox said.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 03:24 PM

I am sure this is just a legend but somehow I find myself wanting the Maori peoples wish respected.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 05:46 PM

A much needed public works project is being sidetracked on account of a mythical monster.
How silly can these things get?  I'm so glad I don't live in New Zealand.


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Posted 29 July 2011 - 11:18 PM

View PostRobert1, on 29 July 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

A much needed public works project is being sidetracked on account of a mythical monster.
How silly can these things get?  I'm so glad I don't live in New Zealand.

Yeah, no kidding...If this was in the US, we'd have bulldozed and been done before anyone had a say in the matter...


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Posted 30 July 2011 - 09:54 AM

To be fair, the monster goes away (as it did in the Waikato, and Pohoi) when you pay the Maori elders millions of dollars. This is the legacy of a treaty that protects the religion of the native people, even though none of those people actually believe in the old religion of monsters and gods


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Posted 30 July 2011 - 09:57 AM

View PostRobert1, on 29 July 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

A much needed public works project is being sidetracked on account of a mythical monster.
How silly can these things get?  I'm so glad I don't live in New Zealand.


I disagree with you in the US people put God before things all the time, is he not mythical?!

Also n the UK I cannot imagine anyone being able to put a motorway or railway through Lochness.

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Posted 30 July 2011 - 10:04 AM

"A much needed public works project is being sidetracked on account of a mythical monster. How silly can these things get? I'm so glad I don't live in New Zealand."

The New Zealand people are probably MIGHTY HAPPY also that you don't live there !!!


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Posted 30 July 2011 - 11:46 AM

Does it matter if this thing is real? I only care if the pleisiosaurs are still around.


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Posted 30 July 2011 - 03:46 PM

i live in nz, seriously every other week the maoris are protesting about something about "their" land all they do is annoy everyone, no one gives them respect and no one ever is, they are always trying to win fights they cant, 1st the shore beds, then the air space, now this, grow up you losers and get a job ffs


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Posted 30 July 2011 - 07:07 PM

Its ab-suh-loot-lie moronic that a public works project is being sidetracked due to sightings of a mythical monster


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Posted 31 July 2011 - 01:54 AM

Lol, humans...


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Posted 31 July 2011 - 10:08 PM

View PostRobbie333, on 29 July 2011 - 03:24 PM, said:

I am sure this is just a legend but somehow I find myself wanting the Maori peoples wish respected.

even if its a load of bull i would much rather the Maori people get there way. why? because any thing that stops a  natural environment from becoming a polluted concrete sh** hole is a good thing in my book!

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 11:53 PM

View PostRavinar, on 31 July 2011 - 10:08 PM, said:

even if its a load of bull i would much rather the Maori people get there way. why? because any thing that stops a  natural environment from becoming a polluted concrete sh** hole is a good thing in my book!
Does that mean you are giving up your home and moving into a cave? or do concrete pooholes only apply to other people's stuff?

Too many people on both sides of the spectrum have fallen into this mentality that a full one half of the country are the enemy for having different beliefs...in a country based on freedom of expression. It is this infighting that allows the focus to be taken away from "we the people" being able to watch, and have control over government corruption and ineptitude that is running rampant in our leadership.

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 02:25 AM

View PostFluffybunny, on 31 July 2011 - 11:53 PM, said:

Does that mean you are giving up your home and moving into a cave? or do concrete pooholes only apply to other people's stuff?

look all i was saying is that I'm against development projects that just plow right through and destroy natural environments. can you really say this development project wont do just that? if you can i will shut my mouth but some how i really doubt that.

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 04:11 AM

View PostRavinar, on 01 August 2011 - 02:25 AM, said:

look all i was saying is that I'm against development projects that just plow right through and destroy natural environments. can you really say this development project wont do just that? if you can i will shut my mouth but some how i really doubt that.
What was there before your home was built?

Too many people on both sides of the spectrum have fallen into this mentality that a full one half of the country are the enemy for having different beliefs...in a country based on freedom of expression. It is this infighting that allows the focus to be taken away from "we the people" being able to watch, and have control over government corruption and ineptitude that is running rampant in our leadership.

People should be working towards fixing problems, not creating them.




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