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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 09:14 PM

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Most of us remember only a tiny fraction of our dreams - but that could soon change.

Scientists predict that we could soon use computers to 'see' what we have dreamed about - and perhaps even record dreams to watch the next day.

Psychiatrists at the Max Planck Institute in Munich, Germany think have already demonstrated that brain scanners can see into the dreams of 'lucid dreamers' - people who can control their dreams.

It means that recent breakthroughs in 'reading' the thoughts of waking subjects using brain monitors could apply to dreamers too.

The Planck institute scientists proved that scans of 'lucid dreamers' dreams looked the same as scans of their brain when they do the same thing while conscious.

The research, published in Current Biology, could be used with recently demonstrated 'reconstruction' technology to create moving images of people's dreams.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 09:31 PM

Good God, get out of our heads, technology!   :unsure2:

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 11:21 PM

I don't like this...I don't like this at all. Soon, even the privacy of our thoughts will be gone. May God (or whatever power you choose) help us then.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 11:40 PM

Yeah fraught with danger, but the upside is - there may be a way to investigate precognative dreaming and answer the question of it's existence once and for all, not to mention telepathy etc.  The studies that could be done is intruiging to consider.:yes:

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 09:54 AM

It would help lucid dreamers in creating their own dream maps.
I would like to watch my dreams. Lucid dreaming is HIGHLY interesting subject. I read about it for years.
I met person who is going in schoolfor Lucid dreamers. In her dream she realize by pracitce that she is dreaming, she made some tests and when she is sure, show starts. She doing things that she couldnt in real life. I realy wonder HOW is that possible? Dreams sure have purpose. Why would we dream if id dont, right?
Its like insanity in safety room. Like some tells you okay : Now you are able to anything, you are dreaming but feels real. Its like virtual world, it could be natures response for stress so now we can naturaly venting.
We can solved our phobias. We can become better persons. We can practice life just by dreaming of it.

Funny how science think that REM isnt connected with dreams yet research show that 90% cases when person was awaken in REM phase that person could tell his dream. Only 10 % of people can rememver dreams if awaken in normal phase.

Also if person is hit by water in REM phase he will wake up and most of them will have long dream of how he/she was on the rain or in cold sea or similar for hours. But when you hit person with water in normal sleep he would not have similar expirience. Also how one moment (hiting with cold water) can give us expirence of something happening for hours. Makes you think.

And when Astral projection come into story gets even wierder.

Thanks Stillwaters :tu:

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 10:27 AM

Wouldn't get too exited - Daily Mail news is more like the national enquirer. Its why in the UK we call it the 'Daily Fail'. More like a comic book than a news paper.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 01:37 PM

Yeah? I thought the Daily mail was far better than some other news papers in circulation in UK? Not sure though :)


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Posted 29 October 2011 - 01:54 PM

I think if this is possible at all, it would still be quite some time before it becomes a reality.  I can appreciate why people might find it a bit on the intrusive side, but if it enables researchers to discover a correct way of interpreting our dreams, then it could be a valuable tool in the arsenal of psychiatrists, counsellors and other kinds of therapists.

On the other hand, it IS the Daily Mail...


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Posted 29 October 2011 - 04:01 PM

View PostJerry Only, on 28 October 2011 - 09:31 PM, said:

Good God, get out of our heads, technology!   :unsure2:
So much time & money wasted on useless gizmos  :unsure: when we could use time,money&technological knowledge to do more usefull things; like finding cures of deadly sickness <_<

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 06:32 PM

review the day after our dreams using our computers .. but please, this will never happen


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Posted 29 October 2011 - 07:34 PM

Given that it is already possible to read (very blury and inexact) images from waking brain activity I see no reason why this should not be perfectly possible eventually .However I have no desire to watch my dreams ,the bits I remember are quite odd enough ,besides many experts believe that dreams as they happen are nothing but a series of random images and that we "create" a story when we remember them because they wouldn't make any sense otherwise.
Having said that I can see how being able to record dreams for psycho therapy might be useful..but it does raise all kinds of concerns .Imagine if potential employers wanted to see dream clips to find out what kind of people we are..not so far fetched considering they already use hand writing analisis
All in all maybe our dreams are best left alone .


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Posted 29 October 2011 - 09:04 PM

that's awesome. i would love to watch my dreams


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Posted 29 October 2011 - 10:55 PM

It is possible that these experiments are being paid for by the military for military purposes such as mind control. We only see a small piece of the program which involved controlling dreams with the use of computers.
  I do not trust such experiments after own history of Mk-Ultra experiments of the 50s,60s and 70s where experiments were done in many mental hospitals in the US and Canada with the goal of making a 'manchurian candidate', a person programmed to kill against his or her will.
  I wonder if the terrorists are using some of this technology in programming suicide bombers. You can say they are motivated by religion, but I wonder if that is enough to commit suicide with a bomb. They could be using drugs, electro shocks and advanced methods of hypnotism. Or maybe it is possible to just use the internet to put somebody into a mental willing to take orders to kill such as Major Hanson who slaughtered 13 soldiers. Maybe there are certain frequencies attacked to these sites that affect the brain where you have no control of your mental state.
  Years ago there were complaints that the movies had secret ads built into them saying such things as, 'eat popcorn'. They only appeared for a fraction of a second, but they did motivate people to buy popcorn. The practice stopped, but can the internet transmit such messages to your unconscious? And the messages say kill soldiers or anybody else?


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Posted 30 October 2011 - 01:11 PM

It's coming.


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Posted 02 November 2011 - 08:41 AM

I think I would have been more convinced if that second "scan" didn't say, chick.com in the lower right corner.  And howcome the dreamer put Steve Martin in a t-shirt instead of uniform?  I think the editors faked the image.





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