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#31    Lilly

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 12:18 PM

IMO delaying rescue efforts could be due to two motives: 1) Mr. Wagner didn't think his wife was in the water, he thought she'd simply taken the small boat out. 2) Mr. Wagner knew his wife was in the water and wanted to make certain she would drown. Two very different motives there. Therefore, I can understand why Ms. Wood's family wants to get to the bottom of all this.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 04:37 AM

It seems people are coming forward to question why there was no report from the yacht that she was missing for so long a time. Rescue ship captain says she was probably alive for much of that lost time.
http://losangeles.cb...ave-been-saved/

Here's what the news recovered in her autopsy report.
http://losangeles.cb...bout-her-death/

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 04:54 AM

8 prescriptions!?  Add alcohol...holy crap! :blink:

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 10:58 PM

View PostLilly, on 23 November 2011 - 12:18 PM, said:

IMO delaying rescue efforts could be due to two motives: 1) Mr. Wagner didn't think his wife was in the water, he thought she'd simply taken the small boat out. 2) Mr. Wagner knew his wife was in the water and wanted to make certain she would drown. Two very different motives there. Therefore, I can understand why Ms. Wood's family wants to get to the bottom of all this.


The Captain claims in their arguments that Wagnor said to Natalie get off my damm boat! Perhaps she tried and fell in the water and Wagnor did nothing to help her.


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Posted 26 November 2011 - 02:03 PM

View PostRafterman, on 21 November 2011 - 07:51 PM, said:

Why should we even care at this point?

Because her life was cut short and she deserves the truth to be known, just like any person does who has died under strange circumstances.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 07:05 AM

From what I read, both Wagner and Wood were, if not drunk, close to it. They fight. She staggers off. He shrugs off not being able to find her - it happens when people are in this state. He probably didn't do everything he should have done to look for her but if this captain was sober, then why didn't he take over and call for a search if Wagner was clearly unable to do so?

Bit late whining about it now. Wagner's in his 80's. Smell of money to boost old age pension perhaps?


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Posted 28 November 2011 - 11:55 AM

There again she was on a crewed boat and apparently trying to secure a smaller boat that was banging against the deck and waking her up.  Why didn't she just call a member of the crew?

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 01:07 PM

The only crew on the boat was Davern, who was the captain and Wood's bodyguard.
So you have to wonder what exactly was he doing?
There are, IMO, pretty credible reports that Wood was heard screaming for help.
Now, if you accept that Wagner was drunk and Walken was as well, then why didn't Davern do something? Anything?
Although, Chris Walken's part in all of this has always been kept out of the spotlight.
Just exactly what did he know about all of this? Did he know that Wood had gone overboard?
He was younger than Wagner. Why didn't Walken do anything?


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Posted 03 December 2011 - 02:19 PM

View PostAntilles, on 28 November 2011 - 01:07 PM, said:

The only crew on the boat was Davern, who was the captain and Wood's bodyguard.
So you have to wonder what exactly was he doing?
There are, IMO, pretty credible reports that Wood was heard screaming for help.
Now, if you accept that Wagner was drunk and Walken was as well, then why didn't Davern do something? Anything?
Although, Chris Walken's part in all of this has always been kept out of the spotlight.
Just exactly what did he know about all of this? Did he know that Wood had gone overboard?
He was younger than Wagner. Why didn't Walken do anything?

Good question.  Both he and Wagner have made a vow not to talk about it.

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 03:06 PM

View PostLady_Mercury, on 03 December 2011 - 02:19 PM, said:

Good question.  Both he and Wagner have made a vow not to talk about it.

Quite frankly, that doesn't make either of them (Wagner and Walken) look very *good* IMO.

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 03:48 PM

There were the only four on the boat,Wagner Natilee, Walken,the Captain Darven. Darven said he was blasting loud music to cover up the noise of Natilee and Wagner fighting on the deck. Walken was in his room. The whitnesses in the other boat said they heard the women screams crying for help the music, and a man saying he would go get help ,go figure.


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Posted 03 December 2011 - 04:39 PM

And Wagner kept Darven at his house with him for some time after Natalie's death. Wouldn't let him go anywhere and had bodyguards watching. That's some strange behavior that goes beyond grief.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 05:09 AM

Now, a month later, at least the case is still open and is supposedly being investigated. Police are seeking more help from the public.
http://omg.yahoo.com...-234314276.html

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 05:50 AM

View Postsusieice, on 05 January 2012 - 05:09 AM, said:

Now, a month later, at least the case is still open and is supposedly being investigated. Police are seeking more help from the public.
http://omg.yahoo.com...-234314276.html

That's quite interesting. Do you think they're moving with the tide, up and down?
Seriously, I thought they'd interviewed everyone who was near Avalon? and awake at the time of her disappearance. I know there was a female lawyer. Who else is there, I wonder?


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 04:13 AM

View PostPamela Valemont, on 02 April 2013 - 02:38 AM, said:

*SNIP* Removed advertising  
I think the drowning would be a determined factor, so I'm a bit puzzled over your title.

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