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#16    Beckys_Mom

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 06:09 PM

View PostBiffSplitkins, on 21 November 2011 - 06:01 PM, said:

He should have just peed his pants on the 665th day and told everyone it was an accident. That way the workplace would have never been 'accident' free for 666 days.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 06:21 PM

I wonder how much money they've saved being accident free for almost two years compared to how much spent buying silly stickers for all their employees.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 07:03 PM

View PostBiffSplitkins, on 21 November 2011 - 03:40 PM, said:

I bet the 420 days accident free sticker was a big hit at the plant though. :D


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Posted 21 November 2011 - 09:11 PM

If the story is what he said it was the company was wrong, but I think Georgia is a right to work state and they can fire you because they don't like the color of your hair. I would be interested in how it pans out in court. Most of Georgia is Bible belt.
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 09:18 PM

View PostDarkwind, on 21 November 2011 - 09:11 PM, said:

If the story is what he said it was the company was wrong, but I think Georgia is a right to work state and they can fire you because they don't like the color of your hair. I would be interested in how it pans out in court. Most of Georgia is Bible belt.


In deed. Georgia is an At-will employment state, your employer can fire any reason; be it good, bad or none given. So long as you are not under contractual agreement with them.

Edited by Copasetic, 21 November 2011 - 09:18 PM.


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Posted 21 November 2011 - 09:52 PM

Well, yes, Georgia employment law is a little behind Saudi Arabia's, but in his complaint,

http://www.courthous...1/11/16/666.pdf

Mr Hyatt says the magic words,

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This action is for religious discrimination and retaliation arising under Title
VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as amended, 42 U.S.C. §2000e, et seq.
And so, Georgia law goes bye-bye. That's what happens when you lose a Civil War.

The smartest comment I've seen on this case is from, of all places, CBS News, who had a high-profile HR professional, Suzanne Lucas, look it over.

http://www.cbsnews.c...-you-a-fortune/

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As a manager, you may have an employee make requests that seem ridiculous.  Before you shout, "I'm the boss!" and "because I said so!" stop and think, "what's the worst thing that can happen here?" because if it's a very strange request, or an inconsequential one, the worst from saying no may be worse than the worst from saying yes.

Pliant Corp. should have agreed to let Mr. Hyatt go a day sticker free.  If they had, no one would be talking about them and they wouldn't be facing an expensive lawsuit.  (Win or lose--fighting lawsuits costs money.)  And no one at the plant would even remember the day when one person didn't wear his sticker.
Plus, of course, it isn't alleged that the manager said "I'm the boss!" or "because I said so." Supposedly, dude made a crack about Mr Hyatt's religion.

And so, Pliant to its attorney: Here's one hundred K, make it go away!

In a tragic footnote to this story, the real number of the beast is 616, not 666. Mr. Hyatt had already been damned to Hell seven weeks before.
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 10:05 PM

I agree.  At will employment doesn't apply to protected classes which include religious beliefs.
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 12:14 AM

He didn't believe god would protect him from lord Lucifer? ;)
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 12:18 AM

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He didn't believe god would protect him from lord Lucifer? ;)

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 12:19 AM

I don't blame him I wouldn't wear that sticker either
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 12:36 AM

Really? You wouldn't be able to distinguish the meaning of the number?
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 02:12 AM

View Posteight bits, on 21 November 2011 - 09:52 PM, said:

In a tragic footnote to this story, the real number of the beast is 616, not 666. Mr. Hyatt had already been damned to Hell seven weeks before.
Haha!

I can't decide who was more ridiculous in this, the guy refusing to wear a sticker, or the one who fired him for not wearing one! Will be interesting to see what happens.

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 05:10 AM

View Posteight bits, on 21 November 2011 - 09:52 PM, said:

Well, yes, Georgia employment law is a little behind Saudi Arabia's, but in his complaint,

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View Posteight bits, on 21 November 2011 - 09:52 PM, said:

Plus, of course, it isn't alleged that the manager said "I'm the boss!" or "because I said so." Supposedly, dude made a crack about Mr Hyatt's religion.

And so, Pliant to its attorney: Here's one hundred K, make it go away!

Yeah, that would be where they messed up then (I didn't read the article, only commented on DW's comment so I wasn't familiar with the details).

Why, wouldn't you go with the tried and true (At-Will state) of something wishy-washy like "employee lacks social cohesion" or "fails to preform job responsibilities adequately"--Of course where "cohesion" and "adequately" are totally subjective experiences of his "work". Sounds like they shot themselves in the foot.


Edit: Then ago, the ridiculousness of this makes one have to wonder if this is an isolated incident and they aren't sitting upon a pile of "dissatisfactory reports" against said employee.

Edited by Copasetic, 22 November 2011 - 05:11 AM.


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Posted 22 November 2011 - 02:03 PM

Hmm, I wonder what would happen if this were a Muslim issue?

This is a big deal to Christians and there is no reason to force him to wear it. Something tells me that they didn't like it that he was a Christian. Maybe he was reading his terrible Bible at lunch and threatening to destroy the sanctity of all the nonbelievers.

They had it in for him.

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Note: 616 is a variant but the most widely accepted number is 666.

Edited by jbondo, 22 November 2011 - 02:10 PM.


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Posted 22 November 2011 - 02:14 PM

View PostBeckys_Mom, on 22 November 2011 - 12:18 AM, said:

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The Bible clearly states not to take the mark. God will protect you yes but you still have choices. Making such statements as above is just silly.

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