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[Abramelin]

Crows really love cigs:

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[TheBoar]

so do turtles

[Abramelin]

TheBoar, on 26 November 2011 - 06:20 PM, said:

then how come over the millions of years they havnt evolved to do like a controlled spontanious combustion would seem more helpfull either way its making an intresting read but what about the species that dont live in countrys with liten forrests or damp climates

Corvids live EVERYWHERE, well, except Antarctica.

I have told you: they will actively search for something burning, be it an ember from a forest fire, or someone burning his/her own house, or a stove, whatever.

And btw: I love to smoke, and many people with me, but as far as I have seen, no humans have evolved into blazing fires, lol.

[Abramelin]

TheBoar, on 26 November 2011 - 06:28 PM, said:

so do turtles

I could stick a cig into your rear end when you are unconscious, and make you look like you are smoking from your a..

But these birds really love a smoke.

And, btw, could you show me a pic of a "passion bird"?

[TheBoar]

if i go with popular belief id say gambia i dont know if you know if it likes to be on fire but maybe u can find somthing

[Abramelin]

TheBoar, on 26 November 2011 - 06:42 PM, said:

if i go with popular belief id say gambia i dont know if you know if it likes to be on fire but maybe u can find somthing

Is that some kind of humming bird or a fly catcher??

I talk about corvids which live the world over.

You know, ask someone from India, ask them about their "house crows" and what these birds do.

Ask someone from Japan, and ask what their "jungle crows" do....

Or read my blog: it's in my signature (kromakhy.blogspot.com)

[TheBoar]

ill read it in 2 mins but there was never a world over sighting of pheonixs it was mainly around the time ppl wer discovering new places and exotic species noone has seen before so maybe one of those set fire to its self as it lives in very hot climates

[Abramelin]

TheBoar, on 26 November 2011 - 06:52 PM, said:

ill read it in 2 mins but there was never a world over sighting of pheonixs it was mainly around the time ppl wer discovering new places and exotic species noone has seen before so maybe one of those set fire to its self as it lives in very hot climates

It has nothing to do with 'hot climates'.

Corvids live everywhere where we live.

They live close to us.

What part of what I posted you don't understand?

You just prefer to live in a fantasy, and I showed you the truth.

That must be a bad experience.

Believe me: corvids LOVE smoke and fire.

You google, I experience.

[TheBoar]

still missing the point of there hasnt been sightins of pheonixs the world over and lets take what you say as 100% truth and it is a crow explain to me about it turning into a chick when it does this or maybe it sets fire to its self to heat its hatcling up then kills its self and the chick comes out the egg i guess that will b your next theory take a napkin mate you just got served im out

[Abramelin]

TheBoar, on 26 November 2011 - 09:23 PM, said:

still missing the point of there hasnt been sightins of pheonixs the world over and lets take what you say as 100% truth and it is a crow explain to me about it turning into a chick when it does this or maybe it sets fire to its self to heat its hatcling up then kills its self and the chick comes out the egg i guess that will b your next theory take a napkin mate you just got served im out

Try again, and use commas and periods and alineas.

You are now talking rubbish.

[grendals_bane]

Arbramelin is right about Crows liking smoke and causing fires. Below is a link about how crows in Japan steal lit candles and inadvertently start fires and a link about how crows kill parasites using chimneys and steam vents etc.

www.airies.or.jp/publication/ger/pdf/07-02-06.pdf

RPSB

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still missing the point of there hasnt been sightins of pheonixs the world over and lets take what you say as 100% truth and it is a crow explain to me about it turning into a chick when it does this or maybe it sets fire to its self to heat its hatcling up then kills its self and the chick comes out the egg i guess that will b your next theory take a napkin mate you just got served im out

I get the feeling you're taking the mythology of the Phoenix a little too literally. The myths that aren't just complete figments of imagination are usually embellished to the point that it becomes difficult to sift out the reality.

Edited by grendals_bane, 27 November 2011 - 12:42 AM.

[DieChecker]

Ah... I read the title as fen-ics, when it is supposed to be Pheonix.

I'd guess that rooks, ravens or crows might be the original fire birds of legend, but every pic of a pheonix you find online is uber-brightly colored.

AFAIK, the pheonix is an Egyptian and then a Greek legend not a world wide legend.

Are there any golden colored birds in Africa that do the same smoke/parasite thing?

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Bennu_Heron

[Abramelin]

Abramelin, on 26 November 2011 - 04:00 PM, said:

This may have a relation with what ornitologists call "anting":



Dr. Maurice Burton, a British naturalist, has suggested that this legend may have some basis in fact. He points out that some birds like to play with fire. The British rook is a bird that is a little larger than a crow. When Dr. Burton hands a rook at his nature preserve an unlit match, the rook holds the match so it can peck at it. Once the rook gets the match to light, it quickly puts the burning match under its wing, appearing to want to set itself on fire.

When supplied with straw and a match, the rook will set the straw on fire and then lie, wings outstretched, on the burning straw until the fire goes out. It is possible that in ancient times people saw this behavior and developed the legend of the phoenix to explain what they saw.

Dr. Burton points out that this behavior is common among intelligent birds, such as rooks and jays, who pick up discarded cigarettes that are still burning and fly off with them. It is even likely that this strange behavior is responsible for many house fires.

(Maurice Burton, 1959. "Phoenix Re-born")



Btw, I have the book, which is no suprize to those who know what I am interested in: corvids.


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[brlesq1]

Interesting thread. Never heard of birds doing this. Seems like a fairly effective way of getting rid of bugs.

[Abramelin]

brlesq1, on 25 December 2012 - 10:07 AM, said:

Interesting thread. Never heard of birds doing this. Seems like a fairly effective way of getting rid of bugs.

I sort of bumped this thread because I mentioned it in another thread on another forum here.

This was the story someone could not believe happened:

http://www.unexplain...15#entry4460611

Crows are not as afraid of fire as most other animals are. In fact they are not too scared to use it to their advantage.