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Poll: Building the Great Pyramid (40 member(s) have cast votes)

What method did the Egyptians use, in your opinon?

  1. One giant straight ramp (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Spiral ramps (3 votes [7.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.50%

  3. Internal ramp (1 votes [2.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.50%

  4. Hybrid internal/external ramp (4 votes [10.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  5. Hybrid straight/spiral ramp (9 votes [22.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 22.50%

  6. Levering or cranes (1 votes [2.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.50%

  7. Counterweight system (2 votes [5.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

  8. Aliens (5 votes [12.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.50%

  9. Giants/Gods (5 votes [12.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.50%

  10. Other - Explain Please (10 votes [25.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

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#1    DieChecker

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 12:35 AM

A frequently discussed topic, but never put to a Poll that I can remember.

Personnally, I vote for a hybrid straight/spiral ramp. a broad straight ramp that evolves into a switchback ramp as the ramp goes above 50% of the height of the pyramid.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 01:04 AM

The builders literally claimed that the Gods literally built the pyramids.

I believe them.  I believe they always knew what they were talking about even if they were even more ignorant than we are.

Men fear the pyramid, time fears man.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 10:42 AM

View Postcladking, on 30 November 2011 - 01:04 AM, said:

The builders literally claimed that the Gods literally built the pyramids.

I believe them.  I believe they always knew what they were talking about even if they were even more ignorant than we are.


so, if the god's built them as you 'believe" what would account of your 'Geyser" theory?? -The "gods" taking a "pee"?
or what would account for your "CO2" theory? - The "gods" passing wind??

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 10:48 AM

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 01:03 PM

I picked "other" because I believe it was not just a "hybrid" straight ramp - spiral ramp.

I believe there would have been several types, including internal.

The poll only allowed for one choice.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 03:11 PM

View PostSpace_Man_Spiff, on 30 November 2011 - 10:42 AM, said:

so, if the god's built them as you 'believe" what would account of your 'Geyser" theory?? -The "gods" taking a "pee"?
or what would account for your "CO2" theory? - The "gods" passing wind??

Osiris was literally a cold water geyser just as Re' was "literally" the sun and Isis was literally the counterweight where Osiris turned into Seker who was literally the ballast. etc... etc... etc...

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 11:39 PM

I don't think the Egyptians built them. Who did I don't know but I believe they are older than we are led to believe. no evidence just my gut feeling


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Posted 01 December 2011 - 12:03 AM

I voted internal ramps.The Egyptians had to have built internal ramps to make the inter chambers frist.


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Posted 01 December 2011 - 05:47 PM

View Postcladking, on 30 November 2011 - 01:04 AM, said:

The builders literally claimed that the Gods literally built the pyramids.

I believe them.  I believe they always knew what they were talking about even if they were even more ignorant than we are.

Given that their kings were worshiped as gods they could just be refering to past pharaohs who supervised the construction.

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 06:06 PM

View PostCorp, on 01 December 2011 - 05:47 PM, said:

Given that their kings were worshiped as gods they could just be refering to past pharaohs who supervised the construction.

This could be true.

However not one single thing survives from before the 5th dynasty and
our understanding of the great pyramid builders is primarily composed
of ideas from later times.  I would agree that it's obvious that the
king was virtually a god on earth if not a god on earth but the PT
seems to suggest he did have some human characteristics including the
ability to die if he led the wrong life or failed to maintain ma'at.  

More to the point, however, is that they name the specific Gods who built
the pyramids. These Gods were the earthly ennead and each God was charged
with a specific task.  There's no apparent way that the king might have
been all of these Gods though he was responsible for their activity be-
fore he died (normally through regicide).  After death he was, in a sense,
all of these Gods as he was Isis N as surely as Osiris N but gods and
dead kings can't build pyramids in the concrete world.  Only Atum in
conjunction with the Gods of the earth could build pyramids.

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 06:21 PM

View PostCorp, on 01 December 2011 - 05:47 PM, said:

Given that their kings were worshiped as gods they could just be refering to past pharaohs who supervised the construction.


I guess I missed the important point of your proposal.

I used to toy a great deal with the idea that the Gods were all dead kings from
more ancient times.  This can't really be ruled out but some of these Gods are
very alien to humanity.  Dead kings might take on wholly new characteristics af-
ter ascension but you still have difficulty with concepts like Atum being the
"Creator God" from which all divinity and humanty sprang.  How could a dead king
exist before humanity or Gods?  

To maintain a literal consistency I dropped this idea.  Of course it might still
be true but it doesn't appear to fit literally.

Men fear the pyramid, time fears man.

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 08:56 PM

We have no writings left to us by the "builders" of the pyramids, other than some graffiti, some quarry marks and some lists of various goods and services.

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 09:02 PM

View PostHarte, on 01 December 2011 - 08:56 PM, said:

We have no writings left to us by the "builders" of the pyramids, other than some graffiti, some quarry marks and some lists of various goods and services.

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Which with on certainty bordering probability indicates the existence of Geysers as you know... (49 sxcd and the windmills that you find are the geysers in your mind) :devil:

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 09:57 PM

View Postcladking, on 30 November 2011 - 01:04 AM, said:

The builders literally claimed that the Gods literally built the pyramids.

I believe them.  I believe they always knew what they were talking about even if they were even more ignorant than we are.

More ignorant than we are? You obviously have little knowledge of the Egyptians. In fact, you have little knowledge about anything if you believe the "gods" built the pyramids.


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Posted 01 December 2011 - 10:43 PM

View PostHarte, on 01 December 2011 - 08:56 PM, said:

We have no writings left to us by the "builders" of the pyramids, other than some graffiti, some quarry marks and some lists of various goods and services.



Thank you.

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