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[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

Greetings,

If you are interested in the subject of Astral Projection, whether it is for learning more or sharpening your skills up, then this is the thread for you.

Purpose of this thread:
The purpose of this thread is to serve as a guidance and information hub for anybody interested in learning, developing or sharing their Astral Projection skills and techniques. This is a collective community effort that is being kick started by the members here who are diversely experienced with the Astral Realms, Dimensions, Travel and Projection.

Each will be contributing in their own format their knowledge, tips, techniques and skills which will hopefully help you become more successful with achieving astral projection or in overcoming the common pitfalls. This will create a place of reference for easier learning, collaboration and exchange for info and techniques. Frequently asked questions will also be covered and the thread will evolve alongside the existing popular Astral Projection thread as a support supplement. (See links below)

Who is this thread for:
Anyone can contribute to this project if they have a method/technique they would like to prepare and share here for teaching others.

Anyone from complete beginner to advanced level who is interested in learning or sharing info/tips about astral projection is welcome to share.

What this thread is not for:
Please respect that this is not a debate thread. A pinned thread such as this is for compiling information and collaborating techniques as a support thread and is not subject to anyone wishing to argue, garbage post or debate the material posted or the existence of. There are other areas on the forum which you can debate on.

Please do not post any techniques or advice which involves drugs, or substances such as vitamin mega dosing, human growth hormones, prescription drug abuse, white powder of gold, psychic experience inducing drugs or anything similar.

What to be aware of:
The subject of astral projection is a highly diverse one which is reflected in the many and various techniques that people often talk and write about. We find people often become confused as to what's happening when they start feeling a sensation or cue, but never get past that. It is probably one of the most frequent things which bring people here to talk about.

What to know is there is not a wrong or right way to use a technique, and there is not one technique which is better or worse than another. Astral projection Techniques should be viewed like metaphors which simply communicate and train the psyche into accepting and registering what the implied intent is. Put another way, techniques are a tool to work with your own expressed intent in a way that "your mind" can understand --- what it is to astral project.

This is ultimately the purpose behind techniques and knowing this as well as putting aside any preconceived ideas, beliefs etc. is the first step before anything else. Most people, who experience difficulties with Astral Projection are experiencing difficulties not because of a technique, but because of their lack of comprehension of said technique or a block to this consciousness process, be it sub conscious, fear related, or something else. Many astral projectors agree that it is something we have most probably experienced in our sleep at some time; difference being projected in a unconscious state as opposed to being in a conscious "connected" state.

This is why this thread will be so useful in compiling different experiences, insights and techniques from a host of different experienced people. In the case of using the thread for the FAQs function, expect the responses to be diverse in reflection of this too.


So from here on out it is over to the contributors!

Thanks for reading.

Links
The popular Astral Travel thread – Here we have 322 pages now of material and conversation pertaining to astral travel -
http://www.unexplain...showtopic=60199

Edited by Kismit, 21 December 2011 - 08:37 AM.
fixed link

[Seeker79]

I will start off. I will post my tutorial here. It's helped a few people. Then I will post links to some excellent material. Then latter I will post a string of FAQs and their answers. Hopefully early in this thread we can cover most of the basics.

My tutorial. ( please remember that every one is different if you have trouble I will be around to help you trouble shoot)

Shamanic Journy / Astrial Projection

Spirit travel has been used for all of human history by shaman, monks, mystics, martial artists, saints, prophets, and spiritual seekers since the beginning of mankind. Most prophacies, encounters with spirits, angles, and higher beings occure in this altered state of conciousness and reality.

Below is a basic guide to acheive spirit travel. These methods are designed to by pass hours of meditation and spiritual ritual so that you can follow a dayly practice and fit it into your schedule. 
 
Personal Conditioning
There are some basic things you can add to your lifestyle that will make your more sucessful in your spirit
Travel endevours.

•Extention to others
•Body awareness
•Meditation & Prayer
• Thanks giving
• Control and Elimination of fear
• Physical fittness
• Extention to plants, animals, and the earth

Things you will need
• Journal
• Comfortable quiet place to recline and meditate. 
•Some form of music player if you are going to use auditory aids.

Conditioning the mind

A relaxed, non-anxiouse, calm state of mind is important for spirit travel. Dayly problems and short term memory need to be erased and stored in long term memory so that your mental capacity for new information is clear. This is most naturally done while you sleep. A huge part of your success with spirit travel will depend on if you can get presleep. This is the part of the process that is most often skipped because people mistakenly beleive that projection is a form of sleeping. It's not. It's an altered state that is most easily obtained if your mind is rested. If you just try when you go to bed without presleep you will probably just fall asleep.

Presleep methods
     
• Late Nap Method
Take a Late nap from about 5pm to about 8. Then make your projection attempt at about 11 or 12.

• 3am method
Go to bed nomally. Wake up at 3am or 4am ( set your alarm). Read something or do something relaxing. Don't read a good book. Something like a magazine. Do this for about half an hour or until you feel grogy. 

Auditory aids
-Some people like to use these. I have had success using them, but honestly headphones are a distracting for me. I do still however listen to them during presleep. Experimentation is best to discover what works for you.
• Shamanic Drumming-- I use these ocasionslly
•Binural beats-- (basically a high tech form of drumming) these work for some people, and sceintific research has shown that they syncronize the hemispheres of the brain. ( I find them a bit souless snd unnatural, but others don't)
•Tibetan meditation music-- I absolutely love to listen during presleep.
•Native American spirit flute--- another that I love to listen to during presleep or meditation in general.

Vibration Induction/meditation
There are many different meditations for this. This is what works best for me.

•Before you start designate a specific place across your room that you will walk to latter. You also should not have a full stomach or a full bladder, nor should you be hungry or thirsty.

• Lay back on your back. There should be a slight recline. You should be warm and comfortable . Put your hands at your side and relax fully.

•Take a few deep breaths and ask the spirits to help you in your efforts.

•Close your eyes and notice the blackness behind your eyes. Look off into the blackness as if it were three dimentional space. Look slightly up.

•You should be able to see nural discharges. ( blueish purple swirling lights) everyone has them. Watch these with solitary focus.

•If any errant thoughts or scenerios start running through your head gently wipe them away and stay with an empty mind.

•If any pictures come into your field of vision, focus intently on them.

•Hold on to your hat!! With practice and a little luck at first, what happens next might blow you away. Your body is going to start vibrating. It feels like a mild electric shock running through your body. It's not painful, but at first it can startle you. You will also begin to hear a massivly Loud noise. It will sound like a jet engine or a water fall. It could have a buzzing quality to it or a wooshing helicopter like sound. These are your exit signs.

•When you have these sensations, it's time to exit..... But not before. Vibrations MUST be there.

•Exit. The two most easy exits are to simply get up as fast as you can or to roll hard to roll off your bed. Upon feeling the vibrations, simply get up or roll out. As if you were doing it physically. Don't worry your physical body should be paralyzed by natural processes. But your spirit body is not. As soon as you get up or roll out. Imeadiatly walk to your designated spot and turn around to see yourself.

Three are also a many other exit techniques give this link a look.
http://shopofenlight...ntechniques.pdf

When you manage to make your first exit it will probably shock you. This will make your first journey not very long. As you continue to practice you will be able to stay longer and longer. In time you will learn to walk through walls, fly, develop spirit tools, travel Interdimentionally, even speek with spirits.

Remember that every person is a little different. Some people are naturals and it comes very easy. Others may take years of training before their first OBE. Don't be discouraged and allow yourself a regular practice. Also remember that once out learning to operate in spirit is like learning to walk all over again. There are stumbles and dry spells, but every journy you get a little better even if it seems like a set back.

Also remember that the spirit world will mirror what's in your mind. Wipe away any fear, anxiety, or stress before traveling.

Good Luck and keep us posted on your results. I'm happy to answer any of your questions.
The seeker's prayer
"Divine wind of the great mystery guide me to overcome the illusions of humanity. Fill me with the ability to give up selfishness and persue the good of all in my presence. Remind me to thankful and mindful of all things, and to respect a charish all moments of existance. Allow me humility and pride in wonderful abundance and allow me to experience the world as though I have the eyes of a young child."

 


 

Edited by Seeker79, 22 December 2011 - 05:36 PM.

[Seeker79]

 Ajay R, on 28 December 2011 - 06:02 AM, said:

Right... Ok.. Any other suggestions which you might have??

I went through the pinned post... With regard to projection signs-- the only thing i`ve felt is the vibrations... these die down after about 10 secs or so... The pinned post suggests a "roll out" technique or to just get up... Will give that a shot today... But could you also suggest how i might find a technique that suits me best? An exit technique...


Another doubt that i had... When you astral project?? Are the perceptions similar to a dream like state?? Or similar to what we percieve in the physical world?? I know these are probably covered in the FAQ`s.. But it does make a difference when you interact with someone with the experience... Sorry for all the bother...

Thanks

Go back to my tutorial. There is a link there for a PDF that has 66 exits. Many different ways to exit. You should pick one close to the way you learn things best. I am very tactile. For me an exit is a very "physical" thing. For the most part Its just like moving in normal reality minus flying and floating of course.

Perceptions.....well here is the deal it's about memory. Yes the memory of your OBE may have a dream like fuzziness. And your memory is reality of an event for you.... But. But. But. During the OBE you experience everything as crystal clear even more so than normal reality. It's a simple matter of noticing the quality of reality during your OBE... So that you can latter recall your feeling of clarity even though your memory is starting to fuzz. It's kinda like tring To rember something from a few days ago. Makeing a mental note to remember something anchors it better.  I can't be sure, but my guess is that astral experiences download straight to long term memory completely bypassing short term memory in our brains.

[Seeker79]

Also, I think you should simplify your awareness meditation. Yours seems complex. Creating the proper space is simply about holding your awareness. Thinking about a bunch of chakras and such and shifting my awareness around would probably hold me back... But that's just me,

[PoPsIcLeS-LaDy]

I find this very helpful, so I want to thank all the members before aking a little question.

My utter desire is to be able to astral project, however, fear is holding me down like it is usually.

You have all been speaking about the benifits of Astral projection, yet never mentionned the dangers. Is it because there are none ?

I've seen a lot of websites that claims that the dangers of Astral projection are very deadly. Like this one women here

If you read through, you'll find that what she has faced (if its' all not fake) is probably very dangerous.

I will excited to hear your responce. >:3

[Seeker79]

 PoPsIcLeS-LaDy, on 28 December 2011 - 09:08 PM, said:

I find this very helpful, so I want to thank all the members before aking a little question.

My utter desire is to be able to astral project, however, fear is holding me down like it is usually.

You have all been speaking about the benifits of Astral projection, yet never mentionned the dangers. Is it because there are none ?

I've seen a lot of websites that claims that the dangers of Astral projection are very deadly. Like this one women here

If you read through, you'll find that what she has faced (if its' all not fake) is probably very dangerous.

I will excited to hear your responce. >:3

You can't be hurt. That website in my opinion is plain silly. Of course people think I'm silly to.

Dont listen to the junk about demons and possession. There are some nasty occurrences out of body, but this is a result of fear manifestation. Fear is your demon. It's a self perpetuating one at that. But it has no power other than what you give it.

Don't get me wrong. There is an ecology of sorts in the depths, but nothing like angles VS demons. This is an entirely human concept.

The biggest risk you take under common methods is disturbing your sleep cycle a bit.

Some will disagree with me, but I don't beleive in spiritual evil. I do beleive in human evil, and you do take it with you into the spirit world. In the depths thoughts are instant realities evil is an ultimate expression of fear. An evil being would be completely useless. Fear causes chaos there.

I recently meditated my way into a very intense place. I learned that the human mind is capable of self torture bringing every insane fear to manifestation. The trick is simply to give it all up. Surrender any kind of reaction to fear. Adopt an I don't care attitude and whatch how these "demons " fall away and the universe opens up.

Sorry to rant. I severely dislike the fear mongering out there.

[PoPsIcLeS-LaDy]

 Seeker79, on 28 December 2011 - 11:19 PM, said:

You can't be hurt. That website in my opinion is plain silly. Of course people think I'm silly to.

Dont listen to the junk about demons and possession. There are some nasty occurrences out of body, but this is a result of fear manifestation. Fear is your demon. It's a self perpetuating one at that. But it has no power other than what you give it.

Don't get me wrong. There is an ecology of sorts in the depths, but nothing like angles VS demons. This is an entirely human concept.

The biggest risk you take under common methods is disturbing your sleep cycle a bit.

Some will disagree with me, but I don't beleive in spiritual evil. I do beleive in human evil, and you do take it with you into the spirit world. In the depths thoughts are instant realities evil is an ultimate expression of fear. An evil being would be completely useless. Fear causes chaos there.

I recently meditated my way into a very intense place. I learned that the human mind is capable of self torture bringing every insane fear to manifestation. The trick is simply to give it all up. Surrender any kind of reaction to fear. Adopt an I don't care attitude and whatch how these "demons " fall away and the universe opens up.

Sorry to rant. I severely dislike the fear mongering out there.

Thank you very much for your help; I am sure as hell going to try this tonight. Maybe use different techniques and see which one fits the most with me.

A lot of imposters are crazily running around the net claiming all kind of things, from possessions to "Astral Vampires".

It's reassuring to see someone with actual experience.

Thank you again.

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

Hello,

Good to see that you have got it started Seeker.

I will be adding my Astral Projection segment soon. Been busy with xmas/family.

PoP, it's good to know that everyone has their own experience of the astral realms, and how they 'perceive' is down to their own unique filters on life. Filters being our perceptions which are shaped by our beliefs and experiences. That is what makes us unique and that is what produces such a diverse range of 'astral accounts and encounters'.   However this effect at the level of the primitive/ego mind introduces a serious flaw to how we process what our many filters try to cope with in making something fit our realm of understanding. That means there is always going to be an element of distortion to the truth in every story and account.

When one lacks the raw experience, then the belief or dogma they have taken on either sub consciously or consciously will fill in the gaps and create an understanding which comfortably fits said belief system and ego. Or if 'a' belief system is so heavily ingrained into the being then even their raw experiences will be influenced in the way their belief system shapes their perceptions. There is great value in learning to understand this flaw if you do intend to get into astral projection and learning to discern for yourself what is true.

When you said, and let me quote - "Imposters running crazily around the net claiming all kind of things, from possessions to "Astral Vampires" --know that they probably believe their experiences are valid and that they will have their reasons for perceiving and labelling those things as they do. Fear is most likely the number one reason, but it doesn't mean that there is zil nothing to it.

It of course doesn't mean they are right either, but they experienced 'something' and there could be xyz million amount of reasons as to why they did. Maybe it's their path to, or maybe they are lost and their reality is so out of control on other levels due to their actions and reactions here or on the astral levels (more this later)  

Rejecting what doesn't sit with you as truth is fine, but rejecting the entire existence of the experience is equally closed minded.  See, to call them imposters when you yourself lack the experience, is counter productive because what people interpret and label is relative to their level of understanding. A big part of developing your skills for astral project is also developing your own sense of discernment and elevating your level of consciousness (higher self)

Now i too equally do not like fear mongering. Those who do fear monger and spread fear are not coming from a balanced position and do not make good examples to learn from or for anyone to listen to. There is agenda in channelling fear it self. But i understand why it happens and some of the issues which make people that way.  Think how misaligned they have to be, to be coming from such a place. But it doesn't mean whatever influence they are under is fake and it would be equally ignorant to pretend that nothing disruptive or chaotic exists, or beings with differing intentions/agendas than what the human race has.  So you are right and best to ignore those who don't feel balanced in their approaches and accounts and that is all that matters. Go with what feels right for you.

As an added note, The higher you go in consciousness the more you can access in astral level/realms - as if the two are related (you can't go to a level that your consciousness is not elevated enough for) So astral level and level of consciousness fit together like keys. Anyway the higher you go the less the distinction exists between our human metaphors such as 'evil' and 'good', 'negative' and positive'. On the higher astral levels it becomes everything about 'awareness', 'intention', 'agenda', 'levels of tolerances' and 'influences' - it becomes truer to talk in terms of our actions, reactions, responses to the things we see, feel, emotionally feel and sense. It's truer to include the consequences of said actions and reactions of those we make and of those whom others impose on us. It's where we really get to take on the challenge of becoming a more heightened self aware being and extending awareness beyond ourselves to much more.
Anyway will stop there, There is much to learn for ourselves if we want to.

Edited by AnVil, 29 December 2011 - 02:38 AM.

[PoPsIcLeS-LaDy]

Thank you very much for your responce, it has been very useful to me.

There is a reason I've called them imposters; not just because I don't believe in what they saw. I've tried contacting many of them on several occasions, asking questions and wanting to learn, however, they either misguided me, claiming what they were saying is the truth; or, they told me I didn't have what it takes to be a succesful person in Astral Projection.

I do agree with you, I have to keep an open mind and try for myself to see the results. Everyone's experience differ; and as Seeker and you both pointed: Fear is the number one Enemy.

I can't describe to you how happy am I that I found a site like, with many kind and experienced people who are willing to help.

Thank you again.

[Ajay R]

 Seeker79, on 28 December 2011 - 10:47 AM, said:

Also, I think you should simplify your awareness meditation. Yours seems complex. Creating the proper space is simply about holding your awareness. Thinking about a bunch of chakras and such and shifting my awareness around would probably hold me back... But that's just me,

Alright... That makes sense...
How long did you practice before you had a succesful projection? Its probably a little too soon for me considering i`ve only been trying since 3 months... But it does get a little frustrating... So much so that i sometimes question the possibility of the phenomenon... Which i understand is a major block...

I know you`ve all probably gone through the phase too... right?? And i know each person is different and stuff... but yeah... thats whats going on in my mind right now... And wondering how to cope with the phase...

[Tia]

This is something I've never tried so will try tonight and keep going.....how long do you think would be a decent amount of time to get to the first step Seeker?

Also I feel while reading your details that while I didn't leave my body, well I've never looked back when I use to meditate a lot I would go to speak to spirits etc in different areas I would often get the light feeling etc. Is there a connection in the fact if you can meditate and like I said it's been a while the Astral travel may be easier?

Also thanks for putting this up Anvil, it's always been a topic I wasn't sure of but I am forever getting picked on for saying I've had contact with yowies so I've really been a hyprocrite.     

I'll check in tomorrow and let you know how I go.

Edited by Tia, 29 December 2011 - 03:12 PM.

[Seeker79]

 Ajay R, on 29 December 2011 - 10:40 AM, said:

Alright... That makes sense...
How long did you practice before you had a succesful projection? Its probably a little too soon for me considering i`ve only been trying since 3 months... But it does get a little frustrating... So much so that i sometimes question the possibility of the phenomenon... Which i understand is a major block...

I know you`ve all probably gone through the phase too... right?? And i know each person is different and stuff... but yeah... thats whats going on in my mind right now... And wondering how to cope with the phase...

I totally understand ajay. I have been gutted for weeks not being able to journy and not knowing why. My advice for you is to consider it a practice and leave emotional attachments behind. I'm not the only one to note that people seem to get it when they least expect it.

It was not that way for me. Guiding spirits basically taught me to project before I even really new what it was. It's a long story. But the gist of it is that it was brought to me as a result of choices I was makeing. I would have considered it new age nonsense before. I did not understand anything. I learned technique and educated myself after I was already projecting so that I could have more control, and help others who were experiencing things and were scared and clueless like I was.

[Seeker79]

 Tia, on 29 December 2011 - 03:11 PM, said:

This is something I've never tried so will try tonight and keep going.....how long do you think would be a decent amount of time to get to the first step Seeker?

Also I feel while reading your details that while I didn't leave my body, well I've never looked back when I use to meditate a lot I would go to speak to spirits etc in different areas I would often get the light feeling etc. Is there a connection in the fact if you can meditate and like I said it's been a while the Astral travel may be easier?

Also thanks for putting this up Anvil, it's always been a topic I wasn't sure of but I am forever getting picked on for saying I've had contact with yowies so I've really been a hyprocrite.     

I'll check in tomorrow and let you know how I go.

I can't say. There have been times I have meditated for hours to get to vibration and nothing. And there are times when I can instantly create vibration and exit within seconds.  The latter happens when something is urgent or I my emotions are highly charged about something. Usually when I sense a visitor or prematurely come back from something very exciting.

[Ajay R]

 Seeker79, on 29 December 2011 - 05:48 PM, said:

I totally understand ajay. I have been gutted for weeks not being able to journy and not knowing why. My advice for you is to consider it a practice and leave emotional attachments behind. I'm not the only one to note that people seem to get it when they least expect it.

It was not that way for me. Guiding spirits basically taught me to project before I even really new what it was. It's a long story. But the gist of it is that it was brought to me as a result of choices I was makeing. I would have considered it new age nonsense before. I did not understand anything. I learned technique and educated myself after I was already projecting so that I could have more control, and help others who were experiencing things and were scared and clueless like I was.

Just want to share what happened about a 2 hours ago... At 3 PM local time I decided to take a nap....
With the thought as you suggested to just relax and take it as a practice session which may get me closer to achieving the first projection....


So while i progressed with the relaxation and reached a phase where i was only aware of the energy body and minimal background noises etc, I decided to just try out the technique that involves a "Switch in awareness" from my physical body to a point outside my body.. I visualised myself about 2 feet away in the same posture.. on the same bed... with the thought that once i fall asleep my consciousness would switch to the new position assumed by the astral body... However, i kept switching thoughts between being in front of the door of my room and to the position 2 feet away from the physical body.... While doing so i felt vibrations twice... after they died down i didnt know if i was out or not... Not wanting to lose the trance after the first vibrations died down  id dint want to open my eyes knowing that such an action was not necessary given that the astral body`s eyes are always open... I hence ruled out a succesful projection.... I continued for a while and when i got the vibrations again ( of milder intensity ) i decided to just get up... In doing so the session ended because i moved my physical body....


I then decided to lie in for a bit before getting about my work again... I assumed a comfortable postion and fell into a light sleep and started to have a dream... I then realised it was a dream and came back to what i thought was the real world... I then remembered a text that said the sleep-wake transition was a good time to project.... Knowing this i decided to just roll out of my bed... I experienced something really different... At that moment i thought it was a real projection... Once i rolled out, I really couldnt see anything... I then used my hands ( astral/dream.. dont know which) to just rub my face a bit after which I could see stuff clearly.... BUT... I didnt see myself on the floor... Didnt see any silver cord... My bed looked very different... My house wasnt the same though it did look similar to the real world house that i live in ( for some reason i broke the law of not stepping out on the first projection )..... I flew around a bit with little control and then woke up in the real world thanks to the phone ringing...



The above is what I`m convinced is a lucid dream at least... I probably just dreamt of having a projection... But the sensation of separation from the physical body was something i havent felt ever even in a dream... Probably my mental projection of what a projection would be like...


So... Just thought I`d share this with you in the hope that you could guide me further...


Thanks

[Tia]

Ok, I'm having really bad problems with sleep atm. Like I can crash straight away several times a day.

Last night I got all comfortable focused on what I use to think of as galaxies (I use to love watching them behind my eyes when I was a child)it only lasted about 40 secs before my brain unleashed the days events and I crashed for the night.

Today I just lied down and I actually focused on my galaxies for a few minutes then drifted quietly off to sleep at least my brain shut off for a while lol.

Another question so if you get to the vibrating state and lift up are you awake, asleep or in-between? Also does your body automatically always pull your essence back before waking or are you meant to head back yourself?