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[Moonie2012]

para2011, on 21 December 2011 - 06:14 AM, said:

Yea your right across the bay, I'm in San Leandro right by Oakland. Star 67 blocks numbers right?  Or do you mean you dont want to expose it to the entities? (seriously im not sure what you mean)

I mean I looked it up online. I saw Oakland and San Francisco for free, I could have paid and got your name. It's not hard to find these things, yet you don't think a telemarketer could mess with you?

EDIT: LOL I saw your "NSA" response. You really have no clue what info is available to anyone (for the right price), huh. Collection agents know. Got an unpaid bill?

Edited by Moonie2012, 21 December 2011 - 06:34 AM.

[para2011]

Brian Topp, on 21 December 2011 - 06:28 AM, said:

Yeah.... You are paranoid. I suggest to seek some medical assistance and discuss your theories with them.

LOL paranoid yet i still live in the same house, yea ok, whatever puts your mind at ease. Your the one trying to tell me that telemarketers are responsible for these calls when this happens on live cell lines, and has been witness by several people including paranormal investigators. BUT im the crazy person, thats wild. Its all in my little world in my head right?  I gave you a good independent source, go talk to Paul and his team at HPI in Sacramento, CA.  Just google them they will come up, he will tell you he heard this LIVE as it happened himself on 2 different cell lines from this household. Had nothing to do with a flippn telemarketer. Let me make this clear again. NOT ONLY do we get messages but we get this voice breaking into LIVE CELL PHONE CALLS.

EDIT: I'd better make this clear before you twist this up as well... Im not saying the automatedd voice is the same as the voices in the other recordings. the voices in the other 2 recordings is what we get doing LIVE cell phone calls. It doesnt happen every day but it happens often enough.

Edited by para2011, 21 December 2011 - 06:39 AM.

[Moonie2012]

NEWS FLASH - some (aka most) "paranormal investigators" are full of ****.

Edited by Moonie2012, 21 December 2011 - 06:36 AM.

[para2011]

Moonie2012, on 21 December 2011 - 06:35 AM, said:

NEWS FLASH - some (aka most) "paranormal investigators" are full of ****.

Very True I agree with you 100% BUT once again this was not only heard by him. This was and still is heard by one of the people i call the most. My friend first heard it while he had me on speaker phone. His wife was also in the room with him. They told me that this voice came across very loud and raspy and seemed as if it was trying to get there attention (like "HEY! HEY!) and carrying on. He says he paused in confusion for a moment wonder what the hell was going on until his wife told him to hang up the phone. It was so loud hse heard it from across the room. It scarred him to death, he didnt even want to talk about it for a while. Since then it has continued to happen several times and he usually still hangs up but generally is not as freaked out anymore.

In addition to THAT, I've had a handfull of other random people on the phone and i can tell this thing breaks into the phone becasue of how the person im talking to acts. The pause and usually shake it off ass static. I elieve most of the time it doesnt come through as clear or says sumthing so quick that you may not pick it up the first time. But ive asked people to describe what they hear and its the same everytime, I just tell them "Oh i know what it is dont worry about it" and try to keep talking.

I even remember one time i was on the phone with the same friend and it actually mocked me with something i said.  I said said something to the effect of "OH ****" as I was telling my friend about something or other that happened and he went silent and hung the phone up. I called back and asked what happenend and he told me that the same voice broke into the called and also said "OH ****" but in a very nast mocking manner.

All the while this stuff is going also on the other family members phone and the house landline, so hey i don't know i guess i'm a moonbat, just me all by myself.

[para2011]

Moonie2012, on 21 December 2011 - 06:29 AM, said:

I mean I looked it up online. I saw Oakland and San Francisco for free, I could have paid and got your name. It's not hard to find these things, yet you don't think a telemarketer could mess with you?

EDIT: LOL I saw your "NSA" response. You really have no clue what info is available to anyone (for the right price), huh. Collection agents know. Got an unpaid bill?

Yea i guess i wouldn't know that seeing as I'm a former auto repossessor and had to skip trace people for a living to find my cars. Your confusing what you think is my ignorance with me not really caring. If you or anybody else wanted to do some skip tracing and find my address, I could care less. I'm not worried at all about somebody coming here, if you have bad intentions I wish you the best of luck I really do.


I don't see what so odd or paranoid about my NSA comment. I was obviously being sarcastic and I asume you know what the NSA does and there claimed capabilites. If you do then i'm sure you would know that it includes the ability to listen to any and all communications.  Once again I was being sarcastic becasue a telemarketer would have to have some pretty heavy equipment to hack into a live cell phone conversation.  I know very well that telelmarketers and bill collectors can and will harras people, but there are some things that are clearly outside there resources and in total this is one of them.

[para2011]

Oh and just in case you might want to say that I'm lieng about being a repossesor, here I just made public one of my old repo videos on my youtube page, have a look for yourself.  This was in East Oakland on 92nd ave right by San Leandro Blvd.  If you are at all familiar with the area you will notice towards the end the elevated bart tracks to the left. If you look at a bart map you will see the tracks run right down San Leadnro Blvd and right across 92nd ave.
      
                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjmzlzGAm98&feature=player_embedded


PS this is back when I was a little slower and my truck was a piece of garbage   but it is what it is.

[ThePhantomFlanFlinger]

I think you have pretty much made your mind up that what you have going on is paranormal and wont accept that it may not be anything to do with Mr/Mrs Ghost.I cant see how anyone can help you over the INTERNET with it if thats the case......saying that...if what you are saying is  true and it affects your house phoneline.....why is it not doing anything to your internet connection or cursing on here?...ah well....good luck with it all anyway.....

[para2011]

BrianPotter, on 21 December 2011 - 07:20 AM, said:

I think you have pretty much made your mind up that what you have going on is paranormal and wont accept that it may not be anything to do with Mr/Mrs Ghost.I cant see how anyone can help you over the INTERNET with it if thats the case......saying that...if what you are saying is  true and it affects your house phoneline.....why is it not doing anything to your internet connection or cursing on here?...ah well....good luck with it all anyway.....

Don't get me wrong, if you read this thread you will see that i did not come here to argue and go on like this. Colorado has asked some respectful questions and has been really cool to me but others have just tried to take a hatchet to me and straw man argue all of my evidence. I'm willing to consider whatever you want to pose to me, you may have thought of something I or any of the others didnt think of, but don't insult my entire being by going on the attack with obviously extremely biased and straw manned arguements that are possed in a manner to discredit me off the bat.

As far as for comment about why not mess with the internet, hey i have no clue, maybe you'd like to try your hand at asking them that and who knows they just might answer you. To tell you the truth though, the other member of the house thinks they have been messing with her computer but i have found no evidence of that. She really is truelly paranoid, everything that happens she thinks its them, but i dont just write her off because I have heard, seen ,and experienced the last year and a half myslef and I myself knowthat some things that have happen are by far paranormal and it is no game. I just want to come share and maybe even see if anybody else has had similar things happen, i didn't expect to get jumped on.

Edited by para2011, 21 December 2011 - 07:37 AM.

[ThePhantomFlanFlinger]

para2011, on 21 December 2011 - 07:27 AM, said:

Don't get me wrong, if you read this thread you will see that i did not come here to argue and go on like this. Colorado has asked some respectful questions and has been really cool to me but others have just tried to take a hatchet to me and straw man argue all of my evidence. I'm willing to consider whatever you want to pose to me, you may have thought of something I or any of the others didnt think of, but don't insult my entire being by going on the attack with obviously extremely biased and straw manned arguements that are possed in a manner to discredit me off the bat.

As far as for comment about why not mess with the internet, hey i have no clue, maybe you'd like to try your hand at asking them that and who knows they just might answer you. To tell you the truth though, the other member of the house thinks they have been messing with her computer but i have found no evidence of that. She really is truly paranoid, everything that happens she thinks its them, but i dont just write her off because I have heard, seen ,and experienced the last year and a half myslef and I myself knowthat some things that have happen are by far paranormal and it is no game. I just want to come share and maybe even see if anybody else has had similar things happen, i didn't expect to get jumped on.

Im not out to insult you but it does seem to me that your mind is pretty much made up its paranormal.A lot of people on here have seen all kinds of claims from people claiming all kinds of strange things....you should look through the past threads in this section...its mind boggling what some will claim,so i find it understandable,to a point,that some are curt(rude) in there manners. And I wasn't trying to be funny with the internet thing but if you sit back from what you are claiming,I'm pretty sure you would ask the same question.I genuinely wish you good luck and hope you get to the bottom of who/what is causing it.

[para2011]

BrianPotter, on 21 December 2011 - 08:16 AM, said:

Im not out to insult you but it does seem to me that your mind is pretty much made up its paranormal.A lot of people on here have seen all kinds of claims from people claiming all kinds of strange things....you should look through the past threads in this section...its mind boggling what some will claim,so i find it understandable,to a point,that some are curt(rude) in there manners. And I wasn't trying to be funny with the internet thing but if you sit back from what you are claiming,I'm pretty sure you would ask the same question.I genuinely wish you good luck and hope you get to the bottom of who/what is causing it.

Thanks, i can appreciate what you are saying really. I get frustrated with seeing a bunch of fake videos and different media around the internet because its drowning out the real stuff along with stuff that people are just asking for help on. If its been a real problem here, I hope maybe from this thread people will cool down and really look into what people are saying before they write people off so fast. Once again i believe what your are saying because i found this site from at least 2 threads off of a google search of "paranormal voicemails" or something to that effect and as i read them i noticed that they had no link to audio or video and did not ever post any. Thats why i said well its really happening to me and i have some pretty damn good evidence at least so I and other people that have heard it have thought, So I posted.

But I have no hard feelings i mean if some people want to trash the thread and write me off they are at liberty to do so, I know there are cool respectuful people here and that it is not the entire site, i can appreciate that.

Edited by para2011, 21 December 2011 - 08:32 AM.

[ColoradoParanormal]

Hey, I"ve contacted Paul at HPI Investigations whom you said completed the investigation at your home, I'm hoping they will be able to forward some of their findings for us! Again, don't take everyone here as attacking, we get frustrated easily and for good reason, when claims are made and it seems anything other than paranormal is brought to light. However, with our private conv. Para I am giving it a little bit more energy and willing to help you out. Don't get me wrong, I'm a very skeptical and hard person to crack, however through our personal PM's I have received enough information to want to help.  However, my response may stop after Christmas as I will deployed for 14 days and will not have contact stateside. Anyway, hopefully HPI will respond.

[Rafterman]

Perhaps you should disconnect your phone.

[coldethyl]

para2011, on 21 December 2011 - 06:48 AM, said:

In addition to THAT, I've had a handfull of other random people on the phone and i can tell this thing breaks into the phone becasue of how the person im talking to acts. The pause and usually shake it off ass static.

[ColoradoParanormal]

Rafterman, on 21 December 2011 - 11:42 PM, said:

Perhaps you should disconnect your phone.

lol

[para2011]

ColoradoParanormal, on 21 December 2011 - 11:07 PM, said:

Hey, I"ve contacted Paul at HPI Investigations whom you said completed the investigation at your home, I'm hoping they will be able to forward some of their findings for us! Again, don't take everyone here as attacking, we get frustrated easily and for good reason, when claims are made and it seems anything other than paranormal is brought to light. However, with our private conv. Para I am giving it a little bit more energy and willing to help you out. Don't get me wrong, I'm a very skeptical and hard person to crack, however through our personal PM's I have received enough information to want to help.  However, my response may stop after Christmas as I will deployed for 14 days and will not have contact stateside. Anyway, hopefully HPI will respond.

Hey thanks a lot! Maybe you will discover something new with all of this, If paul needs reminding tell him its the San Leandro, CA case. No hard feelings about the earlier posts in this forum from the other forum members, hopefully we are a little past that now, I appreciate you looking into this. Stay safe on your deployment, be sure let me know what you think of what they send.