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[kmt_sesh]

Harte, on 26 December 2011 - 04:58 AM, said:

I thought the argument went that the upper blocks were poured.

Didn't someone say that here in this thread?

I wonder how they poured the granite blocks.

Harte

I probably missed that. It probably was mentioned here and I've seen the argument before: some are actual limestone, some are poured.

Bah.

[blackdogsun]

 Tourists on top of the Great Pyramid at Giza, 1920 b.jpg   24.6K   21 downloads
yes, the blocks are quite irregular at the top too

[Nemysis]

The great pyramid remains a great mystery. There will always be theories as to how it was constructed. And, until we know the truth, it will always remain that way.

The fact that the great pyramid has an accepted build time of 22 years is also wrong. This suggests that the pyramid was built within the lifetime of a Pharoh.

even if we take into account the theory that the blocks were moulded including the casing stones then this means that 22 years suggests that the egyptians cut, moulded and laid 1 stone every 9 seconds 24 hours a day for 22 years. Even modern engineers would not take on such a task.

Go to South America and you you will find evidence of moulded stones. They literally look like playdough pushed and shaped into place. How did our ancient ancestors manage these things?? The hardest thing to explain is the fact that vitrified stones have been found all over the world in ancient times. We know of only one thing that can vitrfy stone in modern times and that is an atomic explosion.Are we to accept that the scientists are right when they say we were nothing more than caveman 20 000 years ago????? Or do we keep asking questions, as we should??

When we stop asking questions of our government then we may as well be like Germany in the 1940's. I do not like to say that because of the things that happended, but also to remind ourselves that we should not remain ignorant to what is happening around us, for ignorance leads to all kinds of wrong.

[Mangoze]

Nemysis, on 27 December 2011 - 12:18 PM, said:

... We know of only one thing that can vitrfy stone in modern times and that is an atomic explosion.  ...

Where did you here this?  What do you mean we?

Edited by Mangoze, 27 December 2011 - 01:51 PM.

[badeskov]

Nemysis, on 27 December 2011 - 12:18 PM, said:

The great pyramid remains a great mystery. There will always be theories as to how it was constructed. And, until we know the truth, it will always remain that way.

The fact that the great pyramid has an accepted build time of 22 years is also wrong. This suggests that the pyramid was built within the lifetime of a Pharoh.

even if we take into account the theory that the blocks were moulded including the casing stones then this means that 22 years suggests that the egyptians cut, moulded and laid 1 stone every 9 seconds 24 hours a day for 22 years. Even modern engineers would not take on such a task.

Go to South America and you you will find evidence of moulded stones. They literally look like playdough pushed and shaped into place. How did our ancient ancestors manage these things?? The hardest thing to explain is the fact that vitrified stones have been found all over the world in ancient times. We know of only one thing that can vitrfy stone in modern times and that is an atomic explosion.Are we to accept that the scientists are right when they say we were nothing more than caveman 20 000 years ago????? Or do we keep asking questions, as we should??

When we stop asking questions of our government then we may as well be like Germany in the 1940's. I do not like to say that because of the things that happended, but also to remind ourselves that we should not remain ignorant to what is happening around us, for ignorance leads to all kinds of wrong.

Been watching Ancient Aliens, have you now, eh?

Cheers,
Badeskov

[voiceofreason]

ShadowSot, on 25 December 2011 - 05:14 AM, said:

Er... no. There are some blocks of granite but most of the stonework is limestone. Though the limestone did have a outlayer of more refined limestone as well.

My mistake. The perils of Christmas booze.

[Blues Girl]

cormac mac airt, on 23 December 2011 - 05:19 PM, said:

The article starts out with a lie, as no slaves constructed the pyramids, and delves into Davidovits theory which is more BS that's already been gone over in this forum. This is one idea that should die AND STAY DEAD.  

cormac

THANK YOU! I was just going to say that. I didn't even bother reading the rest of the article. If you are going to have false info in the first sentence, then chances are the rest of the article will be wrong too

[Gaden]

Nemysis, on 27 December 2011 - 12:18 PM, said:

The great pyramid remains a great mystery. There will always be theories as to how it was constructed. And, until we know the truth, it will always remain that way.

The fact that the great pyramid has an accepted build time of 22 years is also wrong. This suggests that the pyramid was built within the lifetime of a Pharoh.

even if we take into account the theory that the blocks were moulded including the casing stones then this means that 22 years suggests that the egyptians cut, moulded and laid 1 stone every 9 seconds 24 hours a day for 22 years. Even modern engineers would not take on such a task.

Go to South America and you you will find evidence of moulded stones. They literally look like playdough pushed and shaped into place. How did our ancient ancestors manage these things?? The hardest thing to explain is the fact that vitrified stones have been found all over the world in ancient times. We know of only one thing that can vitrfy stone in modern times and that is an atomic explosion.Are we to accept that the scientists are right when they say we were nothing more than caveman 20 000 years ago????? Or do we keep asking questions, as we should??

When we stop asking questions of our government then we may as well be like Germany in the 1940's. I do not like to say that because of the things that happended, but also to remind ourselves that we should not remain ignorant to what is happening around us, for ignorance leads to all kinds of wrong.

Since the great pyramid was built for/by a specific pharoh,why would it not be during his lifetime?
Vitrified stones can be produced in a volcano.
1 stone every 9 seconds? Do the math, there are only 2.5 million stones.
This site http://www.stonepages.com/news/ (as an example) shows that we are constantly finding ancient cities, camp sites, etc. from every age of man. If we can find these primitive sites, why wouldn't we find sites from an advanced civilisation?
Yes, by all means we should ask questions, but, you seem to accept everything in your post as fact, why do you not consider posing questions to the people who come up with this BS?

Edited by Gaden, 28 December 2011 - 10:19 PM.

[Mentalcase]

This is on the main page, lol.

[BaneSilvermoon]

Nemysis, on 27 December 2011 - 12:18 PM, said:

suggests that the egyptians cut, moulded and laid 1 stone every 9 seconds

O.o   They could build a pyramid in less than 9 months at that rate...

Edited by BaneSilvermoon, 02 January 2012 - 09:27 PM.

[Sensible Logic]

Nemysis, on 27 December 2011 - 12:18 PM, said:

even if we take into account the theory that the blocks were moulded including the casing stones then this means that 22 years suggests that the egyptians cut, moulded and laid 1 stone every 9 seconds 24 hours a day for 22 years. Even modern engineers would not take on such a task.

Might want to actually check the calculations you got off some fringe site before posting.  2,300,000 stone blocks in a 22 year period would be one block every 5 minutes.  That's only if they were bringing the  blocks in from one direction one at a time.  If you make the assumption that they were intelligent, they would have brought in blocks from all 4 sides at the same time.  This of course gives you 20 minutes to put 4 blocks in place.  But wait, what if at the lowest levels they were moving 4 or 6 blocks at a time on each side.  Then you have lower levels completed faster than the upper ones and the time saved on the lower levels could be applied to the upper levels.

[kmt_sesh]

Sensible Logic, on 03 January 2012 - 04:27 PM, said:

Might want to actually check the calculations you got off some fringe site before posting.  2,300,000 stone blocks in a 22 year period would be one block every 5 minutes.  That's only if they were bringing the  blocks in from one direction one at a time.  If you make the assumption that they were intelligent, they would have brought in blocks from all 4 sides at the same time.  This of course gives you 20 minutes to put 4 blocks in place.  But wait, what if at the lowest levels they were moving 4 or 6 blocks at a time on each side.  Then you have lower levels completed faster than the upper ones and the time saved on the lower levels could be applied to the upper levels.

A good reminder of why the fringe's penchant for pencil-whipping is really nonsensical when all is said and done. There are too many variables that leave us with unanswered questions. We can ask all sorts of "what if" questions, each of which impacts the delivery rate of stones to one degree or another.

But I'm sure the aliens knew what they were doing.

I wonder what became of Nemysis? Several of us have responded to his/her post but we have not heard back. Are we that scary?

[Mentalcase]

kmt_sesh, on 03 January 2012 - 04:53 PM, said:

A good reminder of why the fringe's penchant for pencil-whipping is really nonsensical when all is said and done. There are too many variables that leave us with unanswered questions. We can ask all sorts of "what if" questions, each of which impacts the delivery rate of stones to one degree or another.

But I'm sure the aliens knew what they were doing.

I wonder what became of Nemysis? Several of us have responded to his/her post but we have not heard back. Are we that scary?

They prolly think your mummy's comin for em!

[kmt_sesh]

Mentalcase, on 04 January 2012 - 01:49 AM, said:

They prolly think your mummy's comin for em!

The threat is only implied. I've never actually had to resort to those extremes, but you never know...

[FurthurBB]

Gaden, on 28 December 2011 - 10:15 PM, said:

Since the great pyramid was built for/by a specific pharoh,why would it not be during his lifetime?
Vitrified stones can be produced in a volcano.
1 stone every 9 seconds? Do the math, there are only 2.5 million stones.
This site http://www.stonepages.com/news/ (as an example) shows that we are constantly finding ancient cities, camp sites, etc. from every age of man. If we can find these primitive sites, why wouldn't we find sites from an advanced civilisation?
Yes, by all means we should ask questions, but, you seem to accept everything in your post as fact, why do you not consider posing questions to the people who come up with this BS?

Exactly!  They think they are being open minded when they are blinding accepting crap, just not from a credible source.