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#16    Pastymancer

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 10:55 AM

View PostBrianPotter, on 13 January 2012 - 09:10 AM, said:

Sheep,deer may just be a chance kill so you wouldn't expect them to be on the menu everyday.I kid you not but if i go off with my dogs in the fields and hills,its a rare day if i DONT see some form of carcass or kill,be it from whatever.

Its funny that this topic has come up as we played spot the sheep skull last weekend, on a walk on the moors above Manchester.  In a 10mile walk we spotted 7 and 2 freshly predated sheep carcasses, its knowing how many sheep were killed by the last two hard winters although rumour has it that a black panther lives in the area.


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Posted 13 January 2012 - 01:40 PM

View PostPastymancer, on 13 January 2012 - 10:55 AM, said:

Its funny that this topic has come up as we played spot the sheep skull last weekend, on a walk on the moors above Manchester.  In a 10mile walk we spotted 7 and 2 freshly predated sheep carcasses, its knowing how many sheep were killed by the last two hard winters although rumour has it that a black panther lives in the area.


If you mean Saddleworth then i wouldn't be surprised  up there because thats a wild rugged area too.....you have roads through it but theres enough free open space where people dont tread regularly plus it merges in with the moors around Glossop i think, which is similar....i got lost up there once actually  in a car(pre satnav) trying to find some little village...cant remember the name now but i know very little traffic passed me...


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Posted 13 January 2012 - 01:52 PM

dont wish to say i told u so but i have told rick and his partner to focus on woodchester park many months ago.
if the bettings open at ladbrokes have a few quid on a black jaguar.
ive seen it up close and was warned off by it on one occasion, (stick to the path) american wererwolf in london sprang to mind.
woodchester and selsley common and woods have been my play ground for years, the cats leave a carcass - me and my dogs dont.
as for the non belevers - BELEVE, they are here and plentyful.


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Posted 13 January 2012 - 02:31 PM

"Stay on the road. Keep clear of the moors"

"Beware the moon, lads."

wooooooo....

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 02:51 PM

View PostEldorado, on 13 January 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

"Stay on the road. Keep clear of the moors"

"Beware the moon, lads."

wooooooo....

lol


:lol: ...i could never take Brian Glover serious in American Werewolf....all that kept popping into my mind was Kes....


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Posted 13 January 2012 - 03:23 PM

View PostBrianPotter, on 13 January 2012 - 02:51 PM, said:

:lol: ...i could never take Brian Glover serious in American Werewolf....all that kept popping into my mind was Kes....

Me either.  After Kes he would forever be that PE teacher, no matter the part he was playing.  lol


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Posted 13 January 2012 - 04:13 PM

View PostEldorado, on 13 January 2012 - 03:23 PM, said:

Me either.  After Kes he would forever be that PE teacher, no matter the part he was playing.  lol


:lol: ..:tu:


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Posted 13 January 2012 - 04:17 PM

if you heard the noise it made you wouldn't ne laughing eldorado, i'm a hardend out door poacher and it scared the crap out of me


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Posted 14 January 2012 - 03:56 PM

@angi chiesa
They are highly elusive animals, they take there prey to
remote spots to consume. This one perhaps was startled by
someone leaving it's prey behind.
I think there is no mystery to these cats,People taking them
as pets,soon realize it to great of a burden and release them.
If a couple people a year do this,you would start having a small population
in no time.

Edited by zigoapex, 14 January 2012 - 03:58 PM.


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Posted 16 January 2012 - 03:46 PM

View PostBrianPotter, on 13 January 2012 - 06:35 AM, said:

Hmmm...you should come up and walk around the dales and penines ...lots of free open space and all you usually meet are sheep and cows.

I will be there as soon as I win the lotto, sounds marvelous, even with the big cats.

Where I live now (TX US) there are cougars, some small wild cats and perhaps a jaguar or two. It does give one pause when walking through the rough.


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Posted 16 January 2012 - 04:56 PM

View Postjaguarsky, on 16 January 2012 - 03:46 PM, said:

I will be there as soon as I win the lotto, sounds marvelous, even with the big cats.

Where I live now (TX US) there are cougars, some small wild cats and perhaps a jaguar or two. It does give one pause when walking through the rough.

Oh the Dales are lovely Jaguar.....you can go off and not meet anyone....im in Swaledale but it is seriously worth investigating....:) .


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Posted 16 January 2012 - 05:11 PM

I also believe there is a relatively high possibility that big cats exist here in the UK. Cant wait for the DNA results.

Just want to mention there is also the possibility that it could be wild dogs. When I used to go fishing as a teenager with my uncle George and his friend, both farmers, I remember them discussing how 3 'wild dogs' (pets with no owners) had gone into hunting pack mode and killed 2 of his sheep and about 6 lambs before he could get to them with his shotgun. Said he had no joy in shooting the dogs (one was a Labrador, my favourite dog) but there was no other option.

I never saw the carcasses but I would imagine a large dog could mangle a deer or sheep to pieces if it was not interrupted.

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(This was near Hetton-le-Hole in Sunderland)

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 06:27 PM

Why do I get the feeling this is the last we will hear on this case?  I have Rick Minter on my Facebook and do respect his research but something isn't right about this.  Some people are already in damage limitation mode!!

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 11:10 AM

Just picked this up, another attack in the same area.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 11:38 PM

yep it killed 2 walabies within 15 miles of the deer carcas's taken from woodchester.the newspaper (the gloucester citizen) even showed a picture of a half eaten walabie.
so now the UK has big cats wild boar and walabies ?





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