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itsnotoutthere, on 14 January 2012 - 08:21 PM, said:

http://www.citizensr...der-london.html

http://www.citizensr...-gbh-in-london/

http://www.independe...red-475754.html

Just a few snippets from the last link for you chubb. :-

"Black people in London are four times more likely to be murder victims than white people, with those responsible for the murders and manslaughters also far more likely to be black. Homicide suspects are 12 times more likely to be black than white, in proportion to London's population."

"The study, which covers cases of all unlawful killings, found that people from an African and Caribbean background were disproportionately likely to be both victims and suspects. Of the 163 homicides in London in the year to April 2006, there were 50 black victims, 72 white, and 23 Asian. Other ethnic minority groups make up the remainder. This compares to a population in the capital in which black people account for 11 per cent, Indian and Pakistanis for 12 per cent and white Europeans for 74 per cent."

"Part of the explanation for such a high number of black victims and suspects is the continuing rivalry between crack cocaine gangs. The shooting of drug dealers and innocent bystanders accounts for, on average, 13 homicides per year."

So it's not just me telling you the awful truth, but if you wish to live in a state of denial that's entirely up to you.

All of those numbers you listed can be easily created. You could search in this forum a thread about "liberal dogma". I believe I wrote a few examples of how that can be done. When you target a group of people you create anger. Anger creates violence. It's as simple as that.

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quillius, on 16 January 2012 - 01:14 PM, said:

fair enough but the comment I made isn't restricted to London.  

I was trying for a little levity...but I do understand your point and agree with it.

[quillius]

conspiracybeliever, on 17 January 2012 - 05:20 PM, said:

All of those numbers you listed can be easily created. You could search in this forum a thread about "liberal dogma". I believe I wrote a few examples of how that can be done. When you target a group of people you create anger. Anger creates violence. It's as simple as that.

not that I agree, but I assume with the above bolded comment you also accept that the situation could be worse than the figures described? yes?

and then, on 17 January 2012 - 05:34 PM, said:

I was trying for a little levity...but I do understand your point and agree with it.

Apologies for missing the intent....  

[bulveye]

I'm sure there are white kids that carry knives as well. But for blacks it seems to be part of 'black youth culture' to be a pretend 'gangster' these days and so they carry knives until they can get a gun so they can protect their 'turf'. Also they need 'respect' so will get into fights they can't possibly win in a fair one on one fist fight so a gang of them use knives on one victim instead. They think all this makes them a man lol.

One day, if they grow up, they will realise that getting a home,  job and a family and taking care of them will earn them respect and love as well as more then proving they are a man.

I say keep stopping and searching them.

[conspiracybeliever]

quillius, on 18 January 2012 - 09:50 AM, said:

not that I agree, but I assume with the above bolded comment you also accept that the situation could be worse than the figures described? yes?



Apologies for missing the intent....  

No I'm saying those numbers may or may not be true but there may be a very good reason for them. Like cops and the courts targeting these neighborhoods or these people.

[quillius]

conspiracybeliever, on 18 January 2012 - 01:24 PM, said:

No I'm saying those numbers may or may not be true but there may be a very good reason for them. Like cops and the courts targeting these neighborhoods or these people.

or they played down the figures to make these neighbourhoods seem better than they are

[itsnotoutthere]

quillius, on 18 January 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

or they played down the figures to make these neighbourhoods seem better than they are

Which is more likely bearing in mind the 'p.c. lets not upset anybody' times we live in.

[koiboy]

I am white, or pinkish in colour, and I don't see myself as a racist. To be a racist due to someone's skin colour is pure ignorance. If I were a racist, I would want the police to stop and search only white kids, because taking knives off them is protecting them. If what we hear is true, that it is black kids killing black kids, then where oh where is the logic behind less stop and search for the black kids?   If I were black I'd want my kids and every other black kids searched, cos I'd want my kids home safe. A racist policeman(presumably white) is someone who doesn't stop and search black kids, who lets them kill one another without caring. I cannot, for the life of me, understand where the black community's logic is on this issue

[Simbi Laveau]

and then, on 14 January 2012 - 01:28 AM, said:

I've seen reporting on this type of stop and search in NYC.  Seems their not finding any terrorists but are making a huge amount of income for the city in fines and court costs for..wait for it... MARIJUANA possession.  Because of where the policing is done the majority of the arrested are racial minorities.  My only problem with it is the use of the "terrorist" bugaboo.  just tell the truth - we're looking to make money for the city.

None of what they do in nyc is about safty ,and upholding the law.

The nyc police dept are nothing more than a revenue making machine for this fuhrers administration .I despise fuhrer bloomberg.He's scum.

and then, on 14 January 2012 - 01:28 AM, said:

I've seen reporting on this type of stop and search in NYC.  Seems their not finding any terrorists but are making a huge amount of income for the city in fines and court costs for..wait for it... MARIJUANA possession.  Because of where the policing is done the majority of the arrested are racial minorities.  My only problem with it is the use of the "terrorist" bugaboo.  just tell the truth - we're looking to make money for the city.

None of what they do in nyc is about safty and upholding the law.
The nyc police dept are nothing more than a revenue making machine for this fuhrers administration .I despise fuhrer bloomberg.He's scum.

Edited by Simbi Laveau, 15 April 2012 - 09:46 AM.

[Simbi Laveau]

http://www.huffingto..._n_1423595.html
And the TSA in nyc is just as bad.
Suuurrreeee,no such thing as profiling. HA !

[conspiracybeliever]

koiboy, on 12 April 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

I am white, or pinkish in colour, and I don't see myself as a racist. To be a racist due to someone's skin colour is pure ignorance. If I were a racist, I would want the police to stop and search only white kids, because taking knives off them is protecting them. If what we hear is true, that it is black kids killing black kids, then where oh where is the logic behind less stop and search for the black kids?   If I were black I'd want my kids and every other black kids searched, cos I'd want my kids home safe. A racist policeman(presumably white) is someone who doesn't stop and search black kids, who lets them kill one another without caring. I cannot, for the life of me, understand where the black community's logic is on this issue

Many times it's the people you least expect. If you were trying to get something on a plane, like a weapon or a bomb would you put it on someone you know is being "profiled" or would you put it on someone they would least expect, someone that would just walk through say the TSA without suspicion like grandma or a child? And how do you know if those numbers are correct if they are just searching the black kids? If they haven't searched the white kids or as many white kids we don't know how many have knives. And look at the school shootings alone. Have there even been any black kids involved in any of those?

[TheLastLazyGun]

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but police in Britain continue to stop and search people whenever and wherever they like

Good.  These sorts of measures should be taken to make our streets safe.  I don't care what the pro-crime Lefties or the EU say.

[conspiracybeliever]

TheLastLazyGun, on 15 April 2012 - 02:56 PM, said:

Good.  These sorts of measures should be taken to make our streets safe.  I don't care what the pro-crime Lefties or the EU say.

Maybe we could help them and all of us could just walk around naked.  

Crime has nothing to do with left or right. It's all about money and control.

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conspiracybeliever, on 16 April 2012 - 10:36 AM, said:

Maybe we could help them and all of us could just walk around naked.  

Crime has nothing to do with left or right. It's all about money and control.

Nope.....in fact, if I was to walk around naked it would be considered a crime against humanity

[tyrant lizard]

Stopping and searching youths is the only way to get knives off the streets. If you stop a young black man you have more chance of finding a knife than if you stop and search a middle class middle aged white guy. That's a fact.

Liberal morons who have never been in the inner cities and held up by someone with a knife or seen someone stabbed are bound to cry racism just because a certain segment of society appears to be being targetted. But what is the other option? To stop and search people who are not suspicious in order to just even things out, or to stop searching young black guys who are dressed like thugs and allow potentially dangerous people to do whatever they want?

I'm white and I live in London. When I was a kid I used to get stopped and searched almost every week for months and months. The police even smashed my front door down and dragged my mum and dad out of bed because they wrongly suspected I had a gun in the house and had been using it to mug people. I didn't mind getting searched that much because I knew I hadnt done anything wrong. I was strip searched a few times which I didn't like but hey, I got over it. If I had been a black guy I could have cried racism, and things might have been different. As it was, I fit a stereotype of a young thug in an urban area and was picked up because of it. I can live with that, it made the area I was living in safer.

Also, a couple of years ago me and a black friend of mine were involved in a fight with bouncers. We were both arrested. My friend was promtly de arrested when he said he'd been the victim of racism. But I had to spend the whole night in the police station - even though I'd been beaten up by black bouncers... Sometimes I think the police are very concious of being seen as racist, and act accordingly.