Raptor Witness Posted January 12, 2012 #1 Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) Probably the best speech of Judge Napolitano's life. Three cheers to the one man I would trust with my life in any situation. Edited January 12, 2012 by Raptor Witness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 12, 2012 #2 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Situation normal, doubt there is any kind of revelation in this, and it applies in most Western democracies, and has for some years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted January 12, 2012 #3 Share Posted January 12, 2012 The face of power changes, but the excercise of that power remains constant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 12, 2012 #4 Share Posted January 12, 2012 The art is to have the populace believe they have choice, whereas in practice the range of that choice is very narrow. I marvel at people who get animated and passionate about one side of politics, and hateful of the other, when there is barely a margin of difference between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted January 12, 2012 #5 Share Posted January 12, 2012 The art is to have the populace believe they have choice, whereas in practice the range of that choice is very narrow. I marvel at people who get animated and passionate about one side of politics, and hateful of the other, when there is barely a margin of difference between them. But Ron Paul would change all that. perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted January 12, 2012 #6 Share Posted January 12, 2012 But Ron Paul would change all that. perhaps. not. But to the theme, it is futile to blame Reps or Dems, the sovereign of the good old US of A is the people. If they can't get their act together to eradicate abuse of power then they got what they deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted January 12, 2012 #7 Share Posted January 12, 2012 not. But to the theme, it is futile to blame Reps or Dems, the sovereign of the good old US of A is the people. If they can't get their act together to eradicate abuse of power then they got what they deserve. Pray tell how since you know how not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted January 12, 2012 #8 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Pray tell how since you know how not. Because with every attempt to changer he would get the congressional finger, just as Obama has the last year. One man alone, even if the president, cannot change anything in the USA, except the level of redemption hysteria his fans have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted January 12, 2012 #9 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Because with every attempt to changer he would get the congressional finger, just as Obama has the last year. One man alone, even if the president, cannot change anything in the USA, except the level of redemption hysteria his fans have. I think Mr P might actually unify the left and right - AGAINST his initiatives to change. The man doesn't sound like a person who wants to compromise much. Maybe real change will begin after such a presidency, if we survive those four years. I think the most likely scenario is another four years of Obama and if that happens we will indeed get what we deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted January 12, 2012 Author #10 Share Posted January 12, 2012 People forget that hurricane Ike ushered in President Obama, and that the unprecedented credit crisis fell in between this great windstorm and the election. Were it not for these crises, it's very doubtful that he would have been elected. From out of Africa came nothing, but from within, much change that is spreading like wildfire to the status quo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp Posted January 12, 2012 #11 Share Posted January 12, 2012 ...what the heck does Africa have to do with anything? And not sure how a hurricane resulted in Obama getting more votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjadude Posted January 12, 2012 #12 Share Posted January 12, 2012 People forget that hurricane Ike ushered in President Obama Hurricane Ike?!! Had little to do with the election. It affected the gulf coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted January 12, 2012 Author #13 Share Posted January 12, 2012 ...what the heck does Africa have to do with anything? And not sure how a hurricane resulted in Obama getting more votes. Ask the question ...why would evangelical Christians vote for a Texas governor, who prayed for rain that never came?No one wants to vote for someone without clout in their camp. So don't underestimate the power of the weather to change minds. Anytime there are titanic disasters, either economic or natural, people automatically think "change." It's human nature. There were 12 billion dollar disasters in the United States last year. If you were lucky enough to avoid one, you may know someone who wasn't so lucky, or they may know someone. Before this election is held, I'm willing to bet the value of the coin below that there won't be just 12 billion dollar disasters. People will be looking for a Pope for President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp Posted January 13, 2012 #14 Share Posted January 13, 2012 So the hurricane has nothing to do with the election then. Because anyone who bases their vote on the weather is a massive moron. And I'd like to think Americans are smarter than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Snstr Posted January 13, 2012 #15 Share Posted January 13, 2012 So the hurricane has nothing to do with the election then. Because anyone who bases their vote on the weather is a massive moron. And I'd like to think Americans are smarter than that. I like to think allot of things too. Doesn't mean they reflect reality in any way. As far as whether the hurricane helped Obama; actually makes sense. Natural disaster makes universal healthcare seem much more appealing and needed. While I agree that universal healthcare is an ideal we need to be moving toward; I just don't trust my federal government to be the ones implementing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted January 13, 2012 Author #16 Share Posted January 13, 2012 They're poisoning our minds so easily, and I think it will take more than seven dwarfs to awaken U.S. Mirror, Mirror, on the wall, who's the fairest them all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted January 13, 2012 #17 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) People forget that hurricane Ike ushered in President Obama, and that the unprecedented credit crisis fell in between this great windstorm and the election. Were it not for these crises, it's very doubtful that he would have been elected. From out of Africa came nothing, but from within, much change that is spreading like wildfire to the status quo. And these crises (the economic one, ata any rate) were not ample evidence of the incompetence of Mr. Bush and his Republicans? Had he not been a lame duck for years before that? it's hardly as it was on a knife edge. [And wasn't his military adventurism a rather significant factor as well?] And why would a hurricane in Sept '08 be such a decisive factor in deciding people to vote for Mr.O? Edited January 13, 2012 by 747400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted January 13, 2012 Author #18 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) And these crises (the economic one, ata any rate) were not ample evidence of the incompetence of Mr. Bush and his Republicans? Had he not been a lame duck for years before that? it's hardly as it was on a knife edge. [And wasn't his military adventurism a rather significant factor as well?] And why would a hurricane in Sept '08 be such a decisive factor in deciding people to vote for Mr.O? Natural disasters make right wing voters thing twice as much as the average voter about certain things. Obama won a lot of white evangelical votes, partly out of guilt I suspect, and partly to make amends with their Creator.I think hurricane Ike, striking Bush's home state helped Obama a lot with the WASP voters. It's just a theory, but which could be repeated in a much bigger way this year, if the Mayans are correct. We'll see. How it will play out, I'm unsure, but it's interesting to imagine the possible scenarios. I think the Christian right is still the most important vote in the election, because they can help predict what the independents may lean towards. They rub off on independent voters, more than the liberal pundits suspect, I think. South Carolina will say a lot about the right wing mood. If Ron Paul places even third in South Carolina, and Romney doesn't win, it's still an open race. If I had to guess, I would say Newt will do better in South Carolina than he is expected to. Despite his ethics, I think South Carolina voters will find Romney even more unpalatable. He's got two strikes against him, he's in a perceived cult, and above all, he's a Yankee. Edited January 13, 2012 by Raptor Witness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted January 13, 2012 #19 Share Posted January 13, 2012 A storm did get 0bama elected. But it wasnt a mother nature type storm. It was a media blitz storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted January 13, 2012 #20 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Is there anything in the Mayan prophecies about Ron Paul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrod Posted January 13, 2012 #21 Share Posted January 13, 2012 It's rather funny....I was talking to my wife about this the other day. If you look at the politics of the two wings, they only appear to be different on the surface...they are only different during campaigns. Once the election is over, it is business as usual...what differs is the "winning" wing will grow the federal departments that better suits their personal investors needs. They will raise taxes on this class or that...they all do it...they always have and they somehow swoon us into a stupor to forget those things. Reagan raised taxes (and borrowed from SSI as well), Bush 1 raised taxes, Clinton raised taxes... The faces change, but "The song remains the same" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjadude Posted January 13, 2012 #22 Share Posted January 13, 2012 So the hurricane has nothing to do with the election then. Because anyone who bases their vote on the weather is a massive moron. And I'd like to think Americans are smarter than that. I'm sure it had some effect on the voters in the gulf coast states. As that is NOT the entire country, one could say it had a minor effect on the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjadude Posted January 13, 2012 #23 Share Posted January 13, 2012 If you look at the politics of the two wings, they only appear to be different on the surface...they are only different during campaigns. Once the election is over, it is business as usual. IN fact it was NOT business as usual. The republican party decided that their paramount goal was that Obama would be a one term president. Matters of state did not matter. You can easily see this in the Senate where they have forced an unprecedented amount of filibusters (60 votes). Business as usual would be 50+1 to pass a bill. You can see this in the unprecedented obstructionism in approving appointments and in working with the White House. No. There has been no business as usual in the past three years. Maybe from the common person on the street that might be true, but in the inner workings of government, it is completely false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted January 14, 2012 Author #24 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) Is there anything in the Mayan prophecies about Ron Paul? .... best laugh of the day so far. I don't think so. The Catholic Priests saw to that, as they destroyed 95% of the Mayans graphics & star books. Many contained instructions on human sacrifice, is why, and they were trying to convert them. Still, no doubt countless others did not include any instructions on human sacrifice. The Inquisition was about as powerful as the Beast in Washington today, born of the Virginia/Maryland, which is far more creepy than Napolitano's observations. As evidenced by the recent rare earthquake that damaged many monuments and other key government buildings, followed up shortly by hurricane Irene, this throne is now clearly under attack by reason. Edited January 14, 2012 by Raptor Witness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daughter of the Nine Moons Posted January 15, 2012 #25 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Removed irrelevant post(s). Back on topic please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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