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#1    oly

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:27 AM

JFK warning of the dangers to society from secret societies:


Skull & bones, freemason satanic links:
http://www.cuttinged.../News/n1314.cfm
http://www.cuttingedge.org/free15.htm

Satanism & occult in popular culture:
http://vigilantcitizen.com/


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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:37 PM

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:44 PM

Can someone give a straight answer why these symbols are demonized as satanic? Many of them have little to do with satanism.


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Posted 02 February 2012 - 05:04 PM

You do realize that he was talking about Communism and how the press needs to be sensitive to National Security issues following the Bay of Pigs disaster, right?

Here's a good analysis.


http://www.liveleak....=928_1217456062

Anyone who claims this speech was about the NWO, the Freemasons, etc. is either lying or woefully uninformed.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 06:54 PM

View PostRafterman, on 02 February 2012 - 05:04 PM, said:

You do realize that he was talking about Communism and how the press needs to be sensitive to National Security issues following the Bay of Pigs disaster, right?

Here's a good analysis.

http://www.liveleak....=928_1217456062

Anyone who claims this speech was about the NWO, the Freemasons, etc. is either lying or woefully uninformed.
Here's the second part of the unedited speech.
He talks of a worldwide conspiracy infiltrating many areas of society, & asks the press to help with the battle against the conspirators.



Marxist communism fits in nicely with satanism. Maybe JFK was opposed to the satanism rather than "communism".
"Since Karl Marx has been depicted as the creator of the greatest atheist system in world history, we should expect that he did not believe in God at all. Surprise!! Marx was a practicing Satanist, and could not, therefore, be an Atheist."
http://www.cuttinged...r2/MARXPASS.htm


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Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:03 PM

View Postoly, on 02 February 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

JFK warning of the dangers to society from secret societies:


Skull & bones, freemason satanic links:
http://www.cuttinged.../News/n1314.cfm
http://www.cuttingedge.org/free15.htm

Satanism & occult in popular culture:
http://vigilantcitizen.com/

The video was the speach JFK made regarding communisim.

Top 2 links are from a religious website.

Bottom link is laughable only cause of this quote

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Nike’s Kobe System: Advertisement With an Illuminati Message


Nike’s Kobe System promotional ads feature basketball player Kobe Briant posing as a useless motivational speaker who “guides” people that are already successful to…beyond success. The entire thing is funny and ridiculous but the strong symbolism present in the ads hint to the “true” nature of success…and what happens “beyond” it. Here’s one example of the series of ads.

You have Kobe speaking in front of “successful” people like Kanye West, billionaire Richard Branson and motivational speaker Tony Robbins. You know these people are not in the ad for the money. They’re here to “represent”. The slogan of the system is “Success for the Successful” and Kobe talks about the step ABOVE success. What is the step above being a successful person in one’s field? Being introduced (or initiated) into the elite – a club that guarantees financial and societal privileges.

So, yes, this is an ad to sell shoes. But it is also an ad to sell the elite and its symbolism to the masses.


The author is grasping at straws to connect advertising and marketing to support his/her own agenda.

Awsome!

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:05 PM

View Postoly, on 02 February 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

Here's the second part of the unedited speech.
He talks of a worldwide conspiracy infiltrating many areas of society, & asks the press to help with the battle against the conspirators.



Marxist communism fits in nicely with satanism. Maybe JFK was opposed to the satanism rather than "communism".
"Since Karl Marx has been depicted as the creator of the greatest atheist system in world history, we should expect that he did not believe in God at all. Surprise!! Marx was a practicing Satanist, and could not, therefore, be an Atheist."
http://www.cuttinged...r2/MARXPASS.htm

Just because a world leader does not believe in god, it automatically make him/her a satan worshiper?

Like i said Cuttingedge.org is a religious website.  Of course if something does not support their view, it would be considered satanism.  :rolleyes:

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:24 PM

View PostRaptorBites, on 02 February 2012 - 07:05 PM, said:

Just because a world leader does not believe in god, it automatically make him/her a satan worshiper?

Like i said Cuttingedge.org is a religious website.  Of course if something does not support their view, it would be considered satanism.  :rolleyes:
No. It says Marx was a satanist who promoted atheism, therefore he wouldn't have believed what he was promoting.
Are you questioning any claims on cutting edge website?


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Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:26 PM

For those that may be interested, here is a transcript of the April 27, 1961 speech that is in the videos.


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Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:53 PM

View Postoly, on 02 February 2012 - 07:24 PM, said:

No. It says Marx was a satanist who promoted atheism, therefore he wouldn't have believed what he was promoting.
Are you questioning any claims on cutting edge website?

Yes.

look at the main site.

My link

Its advertising their books.  Any person with half a brain can make up this crap, slap religious propoganda in it and make a profit.

Ah yes, lets get into why Karl Marx was an "beleived" aethiest.

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German sociologist Karl Marx, had an ambivalent attitude to religion, viewing it primarily as "the opiate of the masses" that had been used by the ruling classes to give the working classes false hope for millennia, whilst at the same time recognizing it as a form of protest by the working classes against their poor economic conditions.

In the Marxist-Leninist interpretation of Marxist theory, developed primarily by Russian revolutionary Vladimir Lenin, religion is seen as negative to human development, and socialist states that follow a Marxist-Leninist variant are atheistic and explicitly antireligious. Due to this, a number of avowedly Marxist governments in the twentieth century, such as the Soviet Union and the People's Republic of China, implemented rules introducing state atheism. However, several religious communist groups exist, and Christian communism was important in the early development of communism.

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So at what point has Karl Marx professed he was aethiest?  His statement regarding religion is as plain as day and over the years where subject to different forms of interpretations.  

In the case of cutting edge, communisim = satan worshiping.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:02 PM

View PostRaptorBites, on 02 February 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

Yes.

look at the main site.

My link

Its advertising their books.  Any person with half a brain can make up this crap, slap religious propoganda in it and make a profit.

Ah yes, lets get into why Karl Marx was an "beleived" aethiest.



So at what point has Karl Marx professed he was aethiest?  His statement regarding religion is as plain as day and over the years where subject to different forms of interpretations.  

In the case of cutting edge, communisim = satan worshiping.

Good Greif!
So what was the claim you had an issue with?
They didn't claim he was an atheist.
Do you know how many we're killed under Stalin & Lenin? 50m+? Sounds more like satanism than idyllic communal living.


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Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:26 PM

View PostRaptorBites, on 02 February 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

Yes.

look at the main site.

My link

Its advertising their books.  Any person with half a brain can make up this crap, slap religious propoganda in it and make a profit.

Ah yes, lets get into why Karl Marx was an "beleived" aethiest.



So at what point has Karl Marx professed he was aethiest?  His statement regarding religion is as plain as day and over the years where subject to different forms of interpretations.  

In the case of cutting edge, communisim = satan worshiping.

Good Greif!
Is a claim that religion has negative effect on human dev. reason to kill? I don't think so.


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Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:32 PM

View Postoly, on 02 February 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:

Do you know how many we're killed under Stalin & Lenin? 50m+? Sounds more like satanism than idyllic communal living.
If killing people makes you a satanist, does abusing child make you a christian?


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Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:36 PM

View PostRlyeh, on 02 February 2012 - 08:32 PM, said:

If killing people makes you a satanist, does abusing child make you a christian?
I didn't say killing people makes you a satanist. Child abusers aren't what I'd call a Christian.


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Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:39 PM

View Postoly, on 02 February 2012 - 08:36 PM, said:

I didn't say killing people makes you a satanist. Child abusers aren't what I'd call a Christian.
Sorry, 50m+ people then. Still your logic is non sequitur.





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