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[DieChecker]

preacherman76, on 18 April 2012 - 12:51 PM, said:

Alright. But I beg you to consider, what if?



Here is how you get fired from the media in under 5 mins.

Found this while reading up on Napolitano.

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Either way though, neither segment got Napolitano canned. The truth is that Fox Business has sacked its entire prime time line up, cancelling Power & Money with David Asman, and Follow the Money with Eric Bolling. Napolitano and the others have been kept on as contributors, so they weren't fired at all. They just lost their shows.

And, their shows weren't cancelled for their content, but rather the remarkably poor ratings. Fox Business News draws fewer than 50,000 viewers during prime time. By comparison, CNBC does close to 200,000, MSNBC does over 1 million, and Fox News is close to 2.5 million.

http://constitutiona...:news&Itemid=71

[preacherman76]

Fox business has poor ratings all the time. The Judges show had the best ratings on a low rating channel. He was not canned for ratings.

[acidhead]

preacherman76, on 20 April 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

Fox business has poor ratings all the time. The Judges show had the best ratings on a low rating channel. He was not canned for ratings.

true

[DieChecker]

preacherman76, on 20 April 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

Fox business has poor ratings all the time. The Judges show had the best ratings on a low rating channel. He was not canned for ratings.

It seems to me to be a Fact that Napolitano was fired for low ratings. What Fact do you have to say that he was not?

You're suggesting the network canceled an entire prime time lineup just to cover up firing Napolitano?

From what I find on the internet, the segment in question was shot the first week of January and posted online on the 6th, yet the cancelation of the show did not happen till 5 or 6 weeks later. If the rant was what fired him, then why wait 6 weeks?

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In a Facebook posting, Napolitano said that he had been fired twice before from Fox and after each time, “Fox has rewarded me with more and better work.” He has asked his fans to “PLEASE STOP SENDING EMAILS TO MY COLLEAGUES AT FOX ABOUT THE CANCELLATION OF FreedomWatch; and please stop NOW.”

http://www.huliq.com...piracy-theories

http://www.huffingto..._n_1276468.html

So, what evidence do you have Preacherman?

[preacherman76]

Die his show was replaced with a rerun of a far worse rated show already played during the day. He had a rant like that nearly every episode. His popularity from freedom watch clips online made him more watched then most media outlets. Im not saying that Fox directly had it out for the guy. But its clear someone did.

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So RP goes to the convention and releases his supporters to vote their conscience.  Almost none vote for either party and this helps us how?  It's the old - I'll show'em, I'll let'em have their own way - trick.... Except they really aren't the same in what they support.  Oby WILL gut defense.  Oby WILL try to give away more to anyone who votes dem....Oby WILL bash Israel.  These are things that matter to me more than Paul's attempt to recapture a Republic that never really was.....  His ideas will not fly in this century.  Like it or not we are part of an interconnected world and there is no going back.

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[DieChecker]

preacherman76, on 23 April 2012 - 08:53 AM, said:

Die his show was replaced with a rerun of a far worse rated show already played during the day. He had a rant like that nearly every episode. His popularity from freedom watch clips online made him more watched then most media outlets. Im not saying that Fox directly had it out for the guy. But its clear someone did.

Probably shows they would not have to pay royalties on, so whatever commericials they got would be pure profit. The probably could have replaced the show with re-runs of the same show, but someone decided against it. Napolitano was not even fired. He was still on the Fox payroll for like a year.

[acidhead]

In an interview today @ the 9:00 minute mark RP talks about how the whole Liberty movement isn't about him saying, " it's much bigger than me".

He's correct.  It is.

Watch:

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[preacherman76]

Ron Paul Wins in Iowa and Minnesota, Romney in a Panic



Ron Paul supporters surged to victory in yesterday’s Minnesota and Iowa district conventions, dominating the process and picking up more delegates to the Republican National Convention.    As reported last week, a number of Romney Hawks are now deeply concerned that Ron Paul has already laid the groundwork for similar success in six more caucus states.

Yesterday’s results for Ron Paul will only increase the influence of Hawks inside the Mitt Romney camp.

Romney advisers are concerned that the rising total of Ron Paul delegates will lead to an unmanageable RNC.  Some observers felt that the 1992 convention hurt an incumbent president George H. W. Bush and was a factor in his loss to Bill Clinton.





The rules in Minnesota are slightly different and some of those final delegates were actually selected at scattered district conventions yesterday.  Reports from our own Marianne Stebbins in Minnesota show that Ron Paul now has 20 out of the 24 delegates already chosen to represent the state at the Republican National Convention in Tampa and the campaign is poised to do just as good at the upcoming state convention, May 18-19, when the final 13 will be chosen.

In Iowa,  Jennifer Jacobs, a reporter for the Des Moines Resister, broke into open what had been our little secret, namely, the takeover of the GOP in Iowa.  “A rising tide of Republicans who share Ron Paul’s philosophy of limited government are flooding into GOP party roles in Iowa,” Jennifer wrote, reporting on yesterdays Iowa district conventions.

Actually, it is a phenomenon seen all across the country.  It is viewed by many political observers as the biggest transformation of the Republican Party since 1988, when evangelical Christians joined the process and dominated state positions for a whole generation.


http://dougwead.word...ney-in-a-panic/

[preacherman76]

and then, on 23 April 2012 - 10:39 AM, said:

So RP goes to the convention and releases his supporters to vote their conscience.  Almost none vote for either party and this helps us how?

So you'd have us vote for Romney, who's corprate political donors are the same as 0bama's, with Goldman Sacks on the top of the list. He supports every freedom stripping war mongering possition 0bama does. Nearly identical to 0bama in every way, and this helps us how?

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It's the old - I'll show'em, I'll let'em have their own way - trick.... Except they really aren't the same in what they support.

It has nothing to do with "showing" anyone anything other then we have had enough of allowing this establishment to present us with 2 horrible choices. Especialy considering the very real danger we have allowed ourselfs to be in do to unfounded loyalty to a party who wants to destroy our economy. And has done everything they can to make that as obvious as can be.

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Oby WILL gut defense.

No he wont. I dont know where you come up with that. Its more then obvious the military industrial complex owns the man. Military spending needs to be dramaticaly cut, and that can be done without cutting defense spending at all. Military spending, and defense spending are 2 different things.

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Oby WILL try to give away more to anyone who votes dem....Oby WILL bash Israel.  These are things that matter to me more than Paul's attempt to recapture a Republic that never really was.....  His ideas will not fly in this century.  Like it or not we are part of an interconnected world and there is no going back.

This really gets to the heart of the matter. If our absolute priority isnt to restore freedom, then we are already doomed. Freedom is what has made this country great in the past, and if not restored, will be our down fall.

Will not fly this century??? The young voters overwhelmingly support Paul. With in 20 years Pauls veiws on freedom and limited government will be held by the majority.

Besides, lets not give the nomination to Romney just yet.

[DieChecker]

preacherman76, on 24 April 2012 - 11:07 AM, said:

Actually, it is a phenomenon seen all across the country.  It is viewed by many political observers as the biggest transformation of the Republican Party since 1988, when evangelical Christians joined the process and dominated state positions for a whole generation.

http://dougwead.word...ney-in-a-panic/

It is a revolution. I'd be surprised if in the next election cycle, if all those running don't try to force feed their supporters and delegate choices at this local level. So RP has a 1 off this time, but in the future the tactic will be used by all... who can affort it.

I still think RP will not get enough votes to even be a spoiler, unless Gingrich does phenominally well in the Southern States that have yet to vote.

If Santorum releases his delegates, like 75% will likely go over to Romney, with the idea that voting for Romney is better then not voting. And also everyone likes to vote for the winner, and right now Romney looks like the winner.

RP had a stratagy, but his unpopularness seriously undercut the stratagy in non-caucus states.

[DieChecker]

preacherman76, on 24 April 2012 - 11:25 AM, said:

So you'd have us vote for Romney, who's corprate political donors are the same as 0bama's, with Goldman Sacks on the top of the list. He supports every freedom stripping war mongering possition 0bama does. Nearly identical to 0bama in every way, and this helps us how?

Because in many ways, Obama is following Republican ideals. That is why he is having trouble with his Base, in part.

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Military spending needs to be dramaticaly cut, and that can be done without cutting defense spending at all. Military spending, and defense spending are 2 different things.

Spending does need to be cut.

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This really gets to the heart of the matter. If our absolute priority isnt to restore freedom, then we are already doomed. Freedom is what has made this country great in the past, and if not restored, will be our down fall.

Will not fly this century??? The young voters overwhelmingly support Paul. With in 20 years Pauls veiws on freedom and limited government will be held by the majority.

Besides, lets not give the nomination to Romney just yet.

But... What if your choice is between 20% of Liberty or 33% of liberty. You'd rather have less then more, because you can't have 100%?

[CommunitarianKevin]

Still winning?

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DieChecker, on 24 April 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

Because in many ways, Obama is following Republican ideals. That is why he is having trouble with his Base, in part.


Spending does need to be cut.


But... What if your choice is between 20% of Liberty or 33% of liberty. You'd rather have less then more, because you can't have 100%?

Thank you for using that description.  That's what I've been trying to get over to PM since the first.  If the RP folks can't have it all, they want to take their ball and go "home" wherever that is...  I don't care for Romney for several reasons but will vote for him because he represents someone who MAY pay greater attention to the traditional role our constitution used to play in governance.  I say again...the only value I can see in an Oby 2nd term is that he will finally, well and truly kill off the myth of Keynesian economic theory.  He will literally spend us into an abyss that no one can lie about any longer.  In fact, I hope that if the nation decides to give him the reigns again, that they give him both houses of congress as well.  France appears ready to take the easier, softer way so why shouldn't we all just go down together, huh?

[Rafterman]

and then, on 25 April 2012 - 10:43 AM, said:

Thank you for using that description.  That's what I've been trying to get over to PM since the first.  If the RP folks can't have it all, they want to take their ball and go "home" wherever that is...  I don't care for Romney for several reasons but will vote for him because he represents someone who MAY pay greater attention to the traditional role our constitution used to play in governance.  I say again...the only value I can see in an Oby 2nd term is that he will finally, well and truly kill off the myth of Keynesian economic theory.  He will literally spend us into an abyss that no one can lie about any longer.  In fact, I hope that if the nation decides to give him the reigns again, that they give him both houses of congress as well.  France appears ready to take the easier, softer way so why shouldn't we all just go down together, huh?

I agree.  I'm just concerned that the United States of America couldn't survive another 4 years of Obama - particularly a lame duck Obama.  

As for Romney, well, I'll admit he's not my ideal candidate.  But you know what, I'd rather have a Romney in the White House surrounded by a Conservative cabinet and Conservative advisers and a Republican led House/Senate any day of the week over Obama.  At least I know that if Romney changes course he will be responsive to his Conservative constituents.