I choose to surrender nothing. I choose to see reality, and the reality is that if you dislike your local laws, your options are: suck it up and deal, protest them, or break them. If I read a story about people who have a handful of friends over to study the bible and are protesting the law says they can't, I'll applaud them. If I read a forum post that people who have essentially built a church attached to their home, have twice a week services consisting of dozens of people, and have been asked to secure the permits their activities require are being persecuted because they're religious, I'll argue if I disagree.
No! Western governments do not have anything like the sort of powers you assume, not even now. Try living in stalinist russia or mao's china or in north korea.
I am still, basically, completely free, There are very very few practical restrictions on me or what I do, or how i act .I am restricted mostly by my own ethics and moralities, far more than any form of govt control.
I dont have to go to war if it is against my beliefs. I dont even have to go to school in a formal sense, if i am a child. I can chose where i live, what i do, read eat or view, and with whom I associate (or not) In practical terms there are very few govt compulsions on me, and most can be side stepped by personal choices Eg i can avoid paying taxes by a variety of legal strategems if i chose to. I can avoid almost every govt control by living in a quiet country town without restrictive ordinances Heck I went without even filing a tax return for 14 years, despite working for the govt, and when i did the govt paid me 5000 dollars for doing so.
I can drive anywhere in australia, stop anywhere i like, and never have to show any form of identity. I have been asked for proof of identity by the police 3 times in 40 years. EAch time after getting a speeding ticket, which i deserved in each case because i was inattentive ( I have no objection to laws which rightly punish physically dangerous behaviour In fact i think there should be more of them)
No one else has ever asked me to prove my identity, other than when engaging in private financial transactions such as banking or getting a loan.
Come and live in Australia.
Ps I am too old to worry much about the future direction of my society, but i continue to fight the gradual erosion of the liberties I grew up with, and which my ancestors enjoyed for several generations. i chose a gandian form of civil disobedience or ev more sublte resistance Since we had to give a name when buying a mobile phone (In about 2005) i gace up buying them for myself and give a false name when I bought one for my wife.
Since they introduced security checks such as body scans at major airports, I stopped flying (better for the environment also, anyway) Until now most local and regional airports dont have such checks but it is coming. My opinon is that this is a form of surender to terrorism, and we would be beter off accpeting some casualities and retaining a free ability to travel.
Such restrictions do not really impact on me. I dont fly using aircraft and If i need to travel physically I prefer to drive. I tis quite normal for an austrlana to drive 500 miles or so in a day. Heck of a lot cheaper alos. I can take four of us comfortably to our capital city about 650 kilometers away in a little over 6 hours, for a total cost of about 60 dollars, without anyone knowing where we are going. To fly those people there would cost almost a thousand dollars, involve a lot of invasive checks, and still take a couple of hours getting from one destination to the other. A round trip for us all, is 120 dollars plus a meal or two, compared to nearly 2000 dollars. Economics is often the greatest influence on freedom in a western democracy. With money you are free, without it you lose many freedoms of choice.
Edited by Mr Walker, 25 February 2012 - 02:06 AM.