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#1    Eldorado

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 02:06 AM

It's 70 years since Japanese bombers swooped on Darwin, in northern Australia, sinking Allied ships in the harbour and killing hundreds of people. For years the attack was rarely mentioned, but now the story is finally being told.

Full article: http://www.bbc.co.uk...gazine-17073472

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Edited by Eldorado, 19 February 2012 - 02:11 AM.


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 02:18 AM

View PostEldorado, on 19 February 2012 - 02:06 AM, said:

It's 70 years since Japanese bombers swooped on Darwin, in northern Australia, sinking Allied ships in the harbour and killing hundreds of people. For years the attack was rarely mentioned, but now the story is finally being told.

Full article: http://www.bbc.co.uk...gazine-17073472

Lest We Forget.
I was unaware of this until I saw the movie AUSTRALIA.  Very good movie BTW

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 03:31 AM

Members of my family were assigned to Darwin, only after the attack though.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:43 AM

They also attacked Sydney harbour with miniature submarines, which probably not too many know about.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 03:22 PM

Remember the Alamo, for it achieves the right mindset for a NEW war, somewhere, for some trivial reason.  :devil:

We must justify the deaths of the past with many deaths in the future.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 12:05 AM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 19 February 2012 - 03:22 PM, said:

Remember the Alamo, for it achieves the right mindset for a NEW war, somewhere, for some trivial reason.  :devil:

We must justify the deaths of the past with many deaths in the future.
Kind of a stretch there Babe.  Are you saying there is no other legitimate reason to study history?  People do have a tendency to repeat mistakes they don't learn from.  I can attest to that one personally :w00t:

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 06:49 AM

View Post747400, on 19 February 2012 - 10:43 AM, said:

They also attacked Sydney harbour with miniature submarines, which probably not too many know about.


Indeed they did, 3 miniature submarines entered the harbour, 2 never left it, 1 remained a mystery until only about 6 years ago. A couple of recreational divers found the last sub, which never made it back to the mother sub.



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Posted 20 February 2012 - 03:06 PM

View Postand then, on 20 February 2012 - 12:05 AM, said:

Kind of a stretch there Babe.  Are you saying there is no other legitimate reason to study history?  People do have a tendency to repeat mistakes they don't learn from.  I can attest to that one personally :w00t:


No, I'm not saying that.  Indeed, we SHOULD study history.  If only our leaders would change their behavior based upon the lessons of history.

My point was that war and aggression are part of the human condition, and glorified in the media.

Is that a lesson we might learn from recent history?


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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:58 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 19 February 2012 - 03:22 PM, said:

Remember the Alamo, for it achieves the right mindset for a NEW war, somewhere, for some trivial reason.  :devil:

We must justify the deaths of the past with many deaths in the future.

Since when is remembering the past and honouring people who died protecting their family and friends a bad thing?  :huh: Hell since when was the Alamo ever used to justify a modern war? Your comment has zero to do with the subject the thread is talking about.


On topic it's good that the attack is getting more attention. Given that Pearl Harbour was a major operation and had such far reaching consequences it tends to overshadow everything else that happened in that timeframe.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 10:23 AM

There'd be a lot more Teppanyaki Restaurants around Sydney now if it wasn't for allied victories in the Battle of the Coral Sea and a few years later at Guadalcanal.  Great tribute and honor to US and Aussie soldiers who sacrificed their young lives for a just cause against the oppressive and fanatical Govt of Japan at the time.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 10:42 AM

View PostEldorado, on 19 February 2012 - 02:06 AM, said:

It's 70 years since Japanese bombers swooped on Darwin, in northern Australia, sinking Allied ships in the harbour and killing hundreds of people. For years the attack was rarely mentioned, but now the story is finally being told.

Full article: http://www.bbc.co.uk...gazine-17073472

Lest We Forget.
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 11:42 AM

I always thought that one of General MacArthur's greatest flaws was his dismissive attitude toward the sacrifices of the Aussies...


I had heard about the attack on Darwin but had never heard about the Sydney attack....

Glad you posted this Eldorado...


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Posted 22 February 2012 - 11:56 AM

A good thing the Japanese never concentrated on destroying the oil storage facilities at Pearl, had they been destroyed Australia likely would have fallen, as the US Pacific Fleet would have been restricted in its operations. But the opposition would have been fierce to an invasion.


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Posted 22 February 2012 - 12:51 PM

View PostHabitat, on 22 February 2012 - 11:56 AM, said:

A good thing the Japanese never concentrated on destroying the oil storage facilities at Pearl, had they been destroyed Australia likely would have fallen, as the US Pacific Fleet would have been restricted in its operations. But the opposition would have been fierce to an invasion.


I wouldn't envy anyone who tries to invade Austrailia...

if the Japanese had been in position to quickly follow-up the Pearl attacks with an Invasion, they might well have taken the islands (owing to the total confusion and damage done)... I still don't think they could have won the war in the end, but it would have been a lot longer and a lot costlier...


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Posted 22 February 2012 - 04:40 PM

View PostHabitat, on 22 February 2012 - 11:56 AM, said:

A good  thing the Japanese never concentrated on destroying the oil storage  facilities at Pearl, had they been destroyed Australia likely would have  fallen, as the US Pacific Fleet would have been restricted in its  operations. But the opposition would have been fierce to an invasion.
It's  my understanding that, at the time the war first broke out, Australia  was earmarked for an all out land/sea/air invasion by Japan and the  governments of Australia and the US knew it.  Australia only had about  450,000 troops ready to defend the country and Japan saw Australia as an easy strategic target to overtake and use to protect the Asian oil fields. I'll have to agree though, they  would have had a more difficult time at achieving that then they  bargained for.

View Postpsyche101, on 20 February 2012 - 06:49 AM, said:

Indeed they did, 3 miniature submarines entered the harbour, 2 never left it, 1 remained a mystery until only about 6 years ago. A couple of recreational divers found the last sub, which never made it back to the mother sub.



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Hey psyche, good to see you my friend! Great link, I wasn't aware Japan used the mini-sub to attack Australia. Thanks! 5 mini-sub were deployed at Pearl Harbor also.

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