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[sam12six]

and then, on 05 March 2012 - 01:54 AM, said:

This is what I'm talking about.  RP supporters assume that anyone who doesn't see him as "the enlightened one" must be unable to think for themselves and are of questionable mental capacity, unlike his ever so bright supporters.  

And detractors use the same tactic of referring to him sarcastically as "the great man" or "the enlightened one" the same way Obama opponents sarcastically called him "the savior" and for the same reason - to try and imply that they are the brainwashed ones.

Also, it's not that I believe anyone is unable to think for themselves, they just don't. I still know people who will go off on a rant about how Obama is not an American citizen. Why? Because Fox questioned it. Never mind that determining someone's citizenship is probably the very first thing verified when someone registers that they are running. Obama was a better politician though. He said what people wanted to hear instead of what he believed.

I don't get how people refuse to vote for someone who all sides pretty much agree is an honest man when everyone else flip-flops, depending on the audience. I do believe Paul would have been better to focus on things he could actually accomplish without Congressional approval instead of scaring people to death by constantly bringing up the concept of dismantling half the government (no matter how unconstitutional).

and then, on 05 March 2012 - 01:54 AM, said:

Even if what you think were true(a big if)he is still un elect able.  Disparage his detractors all you want - in the end his campaign has been for nothing if his supporters stop when the election is over.

I agree.

and then, on 05 March 2012 - 01:54 AM, said:

And BTW, I believe that explosion is just around the corner.

You could be right. I believe it'll take years until enough people are hurting to actively seek change. Keep in mind, our poor people are better off than the middle class in many places. We've been on top a long time and that means we've a long way to fall. I just don't think that'll happen overnight.

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

sam12six, on 05 March 2012 - 05:53 AM, said:

And detractors use the same tactic of referring to him sarcastically as "the great man" or "the enlightened one" the same way Obama opponents sarcastically called him "the savior" and for the same reason - to try and imply that they are the brainwashed ones.

Detractors of the Great man? Whoever does that?  
The point is that it's all irrelevant really; he can promise whatever he likes, and he may well be totally sincere about what he promises. He's able to do this, and his Admirers are able to pin their hopes on him so passionately, because he knows, even if they don't, that there's no possible way he's ever going to be selected by the party whose guiding principles he seems to be so strongly against.

[jesspy]

elmo

[sam12six]

747400, on 05 March 2012 - 07:48 AM, said:

Detractors of the Great man? Whoever does that?  
The point is that it's all irrelevant really; he can promise whatever he likes, and he may well be totally sincere about what he promises. He's able to do this, and his Admirers are able to pin their hopes on him so passionately, because he knows, even if they don't, that there's no possible way he's ever going to be selected by the party whose guiding principles he seems to be so strongly against.

I agree that he won't be selected as the Repub candidate. I wasn't aware though that the Republican party is supposed to be for big government and unconstitutional federal legislation.

Though I disagree, I don't have any problem with someone who feels that a different candidate is a better choice. I just have a problem with trying to paint the guy and people who support him as nutcases because of that difference in opinion - and I believe a lot of that is because of dogmatic acceptance of what the media says (though to be fair, I was a supporter of Paul in his 2008 and the pushy, evangelical supporters made me almost wish he weren't running).

[FurthurBB]

Michelle, on 29 February 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

In the end, I don't think anyone votes because of what other countries would think. We vote on what we think is in our own best interest, period. I highly doubt any other country is worried about what we think when they go to the polls and I don't blame them.

Well, that is not a good thing.  It should not be the main consideration, but it should be a consideration.

preacherman76, on 29 February 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

Totaly agree. Why should the opinion of people in other countries matter in the least?? The only opinion I care about is from other countries are those who we are bombing, cause of the blow back.

Case in point!  This is one of the many things wrong with our country.

[FurthurBB]

Corp, on 01 March 2012 - 01:06 AM, said:

American entering the war early resulting in a complete German victory? No. Just no.

Not to mention no one would have had to enter the war if we would have just paid attention earlier.

[FurthurBB]

747400, on 01 March 2012 - 09:07 PM, said:

Personally I had a lot of respect for McCain, from what I heard about him. Just a pity that he committed electoral hari-kiri through his choice of running mate and thus prospective Vice President...

I never believed it was his choice.

[regeneratia]

Little Fish, on 28 February 2012 - 01:24 PM, said:

Good one. I am going to write him in if Paul doesn't get the nomination.

Anyone else with me on that?

[regeneratia]

FurthurBB, on 05 March 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:

Not to mention no one would have had to enter the war if we would have just paid attention earlier.

Hitler wouldn't have come to power if people had been paying attention more. Tho it could be that someone else would have done the same thing. WWII seemed to be, to me,  by some one's or some group's' ultimate design.

[tapirmusic]

Gary Johnson
FTW!

[regeneratia]

tapirmusic, on 05 March 2012 - 11:55 PM, said:

Gary Johnson
FTW!

I heard yet another name as well but I cannot remember it. So whatever happened, while the normal Germans were neglectful and apathetic, this event was going to happen in some form or another. But I see it happening here in the USA now, while the "enemy" in definition is vague and without boundries, making ANYONE, including our USA Government, fit the label of terrorist.

I am writing in Paul.
It is Ron or Revolution!!

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

regeneratia, on 06 March 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

I heard yet another name as well but I cannot remember it. So whatever happened, while the normal Germans were neglectful and apathetic, this event was going to happen in some form or another. But I see it happening here in the USA now, while the "enemy" in definition is vague and without boundries, making ANYONE, including our USA Government, fit the label of terrorist.

I am writing in Paul.
It is Ron or Revolution!!

So if Mr. P did by some chance get the nomination but was then not elected, would you accept that as the People having Spoken, or would you decide that that would justify, as you say, Revolution?

[rashore]

Americans Elect

Interesting site. They are trying for a nonpartisan ticket. They got Paul at the top of their list.

[RightInTheStatisticals]

Eh ... Obama done fine.

He'll get my vote.

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

It appears that Mitch Romney appears to be the most likely front runner, but I can't say I really know very much about him. What does he stand for? Is he just the usual boring old right winger?