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#16    Arbitran

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 04:15 AM

View PostAlienated Being, on 14 April 2012 - 03:56 AM, said:

All-right, I am curious as to the contents of these "texts", and how they irrefutably detail extraterrestrial encounter.

As I have detailed (perhaps elsewhere; if so, I have forgotten--forgive me), though much of the texts cannot be confirmed through physical evidence (as many of the events which transpire within occurred millions or billions of years ago), they validate themselves through the accuracy of their information. When they have knowledge of the speed of light, the age of the Earth, the number of species on the planet, the heliocentric solar system, et cetera--I for one will accept their account of how they acquired that information. Namely, from extraterrestrial beings. This is all I can think to say immediately.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 05:52 AM

Hang on, the number of species? We're discovering new species every day, how do we know any concrete answer to that?
Where in these texts are those answers given? Importantly, in what translations? Because even if it's in Hindi, that'll be modern Hindi and not the original Hindi.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 08:38 PM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 14 April 2012 - 05:52 AM, said:

Hang on, the number of species? We're discovering new species every day, how do we know any concrete answer to that?
Where in these texts are those answers given? Importantly, in what translations? Because even if it's in Hindi, that'll be modern Hindi and not the original Hindi.

The number of species alive today is best answered say the experts by an estimate. Their estimate is the same as the figure given in the texts.

Though it should be noted that the texts state flexibility to their figure as well: new species are always appearing with time, and species are always going extinct.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 03:52 AM

View PostArbitran, on 14 April 2012 - 04:15 AM, said:

As I have detailed (perhaps elsewhere; if so, I have forgotten--forgive me), though much of the texts cannot be confirmed through physical evidence (as many of the events which transpire within occurred millions or billions of years ago), they validate themselves through the accuracy of their information. When they have knowledge of the speed of light, the age of the Earth, the number of species on the planet, the heliocentric solar system, et cetera--I for one will accept their account of how they acquired that information. Namely, from extraterrestrial beings. This is all I can think to say immediately.

This itself contradicts any validity of these texts then. IF there isn't a possibility of validation through physical or scientific means, then there in fact, is no possibility of validation period. You say they detail the speed of light, age of the Earth and number of species here. Lets break this down.

Detailing the Speed of Light - What are the names of these texts that detail this? I would need to see copies of the original's OR the originals to verify that these texts from thousands of years ago do in fact speak about the actual and factual speed of light. It would be very easy in this day for someone to simply add this information to these texts over the internet and have people believe in this without us being able to see and verify that these ARE from the originals and indeed are thousands of years old.

Age of the Earth- How is this possible when Scientists still don't know the exact age of our planet and our planet's time line is still a ball park figure or estimation. They give a mean number to all times.

Number of Species - Again, someone else said here, how could they possibly know the number of species when modern day scientists do not know this? Especially being thousands of years old, there were many different species than there are now. The numbers simply could not match to modern day estimations.

I guess what we NEED is a link to where we could actually view these documents ourselves from a credible source. ie; College, Scientific institute etc.


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Posted 15 April 2012 - 05:13 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 13 April 2012 - 03:25 AM, said:

Yet another Edgar Mitchell thread?? We seem to get one every month or two. Is the search function button broken or something?


The thread where Quillius and I had a close look at these claims show they are not overly impressive -LINK

Glen Dennis, Bob Lazar are but two "sources" the Mitchell relies on to form this belief. I think that says enough to validate serious investigation into the claim.
Indeed, that was a very informative thread. :tu:


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Posted 15 April 2012 - 05:23 AM

For me it's like this.
For everyone of us here on this ball, every living thing - there must be millions times more other living typed beings out there.

Where it states "For official use only" - gently rub a white wax candle over the area indicated.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 05:31 AM

View PostArbitran, on 13 April 2012 - 02:24 AM, said:

I considered that for a long time. The Bible however is without evidence. The Hindu texts on the other hand, validate themselves thoroughly.
As a Hindu, and former Christian, I have tried to consider all possible options. The God of Israel, while possibly having been based on a real entity, or group of entities, seems to be almost entirely imaginary.

Hindu texts mention reincarnation. Where is this validated thoroughly? I wish to examine these for myself. Sounds intriguing.


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Posted 15 April 2012 - 05:41 AM

View PostArbitran, on 14 April 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

The number of species alive today is best answered say the experts by an estimate. Their estimate is the same as the figure given in the texts.
If you don't mind indulging my curiosity further, what was the figure given in the Hindu texts?

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:37 AM

View PostColoradoParanormal, on 15 April 2012 - 03:52 AM, said:

This itself contradicts any validity of these texts then. IF there isn't a possibility of validation through physical or scientific means, then there in fact, is no possibility of validation period. You say they detail the speed of light, age of the Earth and number of species here. Lets break this down.

Detailing the Speed of Light - What are the names of these texts that detail this? I would need to see copies of the original's OR the originals to verify that these texts from thousands of years ago do in fact speak about the actual and factual speed of light. It would be very easy in this day for someone to simply add this information to these texts over the internet and have people believe in this without us being able to see and verify that these ARE from the originals and indeed are thousands of years old.

Age of the Earth- How is this possible when Scientists still don't know the exact age of our planet and our planet's time line is still a ball park figure or estimation. They give a mean number to all times.

Number of Species - Again, someone else said here, how could they possibly know the number of species when modern day scientists do not know this? Especially being thousands of years old, there were many different species than there are now. The numbers simply could not match to modern day estimations.

I guess what we NEED is a link to where we could actually view these documents ourselves from a credible source. ie; College, Scientific institute etc.

So you deny that historical documentation and verifiably accurate knowledge constitutes a means towards validation of the source? I wasn't there to meet Galileo, but his life is documented historically, and his information has been shown to be accurate. Should I disregard him as well? I have just as much reason to believe the Hindu texts as I do Galileo. More, in fact. Their quantity and accuracy of information is far, far greater than his.

The age of the Earth may indeed be an estimation. The figure given in the texts does not bother to go down to the day, or anything close to that. It is however the same figure which modern science has produced.

Again, we do not know the exact number of species on Earth, however the modern estimate is given almost precisely in the texts. This is all based on what evidence exists.

The texts, of which there are thousands--comprise of many various divisions, such as Vedas, Upanishads, Puranas, Mahabharata, Ramayana, etc. It is not generally disputed, even here, that they provide the aforementioned figures. Nor is it disputed in any way as to their age, and the age of the figures (which is incidentally the same). Well, there is indeed dispute as to their age, but insofar as they are very ancient it is universally agreed. Estimations as to their age vary between the scholar you ask: you can get figures of anywhere between 5,000 and 4 billion years. I personally think that they might represent a gradual process of informational compilation--thus their ages likely span from perhaps 1,700 years ago to as many as 4.3 billion.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:39 AM

View PostPixie Kisses, on 15 April 2012 - 05:31 AM, said:

Hindu texts mention reincarnation. Where is this validated thoroughly? I wish to examine these for myself. Sounds intriguing.

Reincarnation is not yet fully accepted as a scientific concept, but the evidence for it is mounting every day.

Here is a good place to start: http://en.wikipedia....nation_research

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:42 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 15 April 2012 - 05:41 AM, said:

If you don't mind indulging my curiosity further, what was the figure given in the Hindu texts?

http://www.scienceda...10823180459.htm

This is a link to an article which presents the modern scientific estimate of the number of species on Earth.

The Hindu texts give the figure of 8.5 million. This, and it is made clear that the true number is always in flux. 8.5 million is held as a sort of ball-park figure in the texts. In any case...

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 04:55 AM

View PostArbitran, on 14 April 2012 - 04:15 AM, said:

As I have detailed (perhaps elsewhere; if so, I have forgotten--forgive me), though much of the texts cannot be confirmed through physical evidence (as many of the events which transpire within occurred millions or billions of years ago), they validate themselves through the accuracy of their information. When they have knowledge of the speed of light, the age of the Earth, the number of species on the planet, the heliocentric solar system, et cetera--I for one will accept their account of how they acquired that information. Namely, from extraterrestrial beings. This is all I can think to say immediately.


The tricky part being we agree that aliens are not required for this information, but you feel that is how to interpret the texts as you find the mention of Gods synonymous with Aliens.. Can you direct me to the passage that predicts the number of animals, I seem to be having some trouble finding the reference.
Whilst some predictions seem rather amazing, some are equally invalid. It has also been stated that Predatory animals will be more violent and There will be many children born whose life expectancy is no more than 16 years. Nor much about super computer, quantum computing or any secrets to medicine or how to bridge physics. The texts I am finding like Hawking's description to the creation of the Universe. That Gods are not necessary in this instance.

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