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#1    nopeda

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 08:05 PM

Several of the things about the ancient alien theory seem to support the idea imo. One question that comes up is whether it seems more likely that advanced beings made the pyramids and stacked up a bunch of huge skillfully cut rocks in a number of different places all over the planet, or that ancient humans did that themselves. Since we can't figure out how they could have done it today, what are the chances that a bunch of different separate societies of ancient humans were able to figure out how to do it thousands of years ago? Really it seems more likely that aliens had a big hand in it. It seems more likely than not that there are beings who can get around in space in the universe. The bigger question is whether or not they have been to Earth, and the stacking of the huge rocks is evidence that they have. Also it seems that where there are such examples the humans usually/always refer to beings from the sky. Does it seem like people thousands of years ago would do things to suggest that aliens had been here, just to try to fool people thousands of years in the future? Or at any point in the future? Why would they? If people believed in beings from the stars back then, why would they think people wouldn't still believe in them in the future? And of course the bigger question of how could they do the things that were done?


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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:49 PM

Welcome to the forum, Nopeda.  I hope you enjoy your time with us.  Feel free to use the search function at the top of the page, as there are many interesting threads on this very topic.  Keep an eye on the dates of the threads, though.  

View Postnopeda, on 07 March 2012 - 08:05 PM, said:

Since we can't figure out how they could have done it today, what are the chances that a bunch of different separate societies of ancient humans were able to figure out how to do it thousands of years ago?

Think very carefully about that statement.

Dozens of different societies all around the earth figured out Masonry technology.  If a bunch of societies around the planet can all figure it out, the logical conclusion is that the technology is not all that complex.  

You should be careful of logic that begins with the assumption of "I, personally, do not know, therefore others do not either."


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Posted 08 March 2012 - 03:28 AM

Love the Name ! NOPEDA  ! Anti-Wiki-leak and all !  I too welcome you to a really great Forum  ! As far as advanced Aliens or Ancient humans ? WHo`s to ever know we seem to have many,many opinions on this subject in here.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:41 AM

Why does everyone bang on about ancient humans?

Why, primarily, do most people only consider the two options – ancient humans or aliens – as being the only possible answers?

The earth is millions of years old….many many many civilisations – human or otherwise – may have risen and fallen since the formation of the earth.


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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:54 AM

View Postdekker87, on 08 March 2012 - 09:41 AM, said:

Why does everyone bang on about ancient humans?

Why, primarily, do most people only consider the two options – ancient humans or aliens – as being the only possible answers?

The earth is millions of years old….many many many civilisations – human or otherwise – may have risen and fallen since the formation of the earth.

Not too sure what you mean Dekker....are you not saying the same thing??? if not human then wouldnt it be classed as alien??"??"


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Posted 08 March 2012 - 11:57 AM

View Postquillius, on 08 March 2012 - 09:54 AM, said:

Not too sure what you mean Dekker....are you not saying the same thing??? if not human then wouldnt it be classed as alien??"??"

Alien implies something extra-terrestrial….i’m saying there may have been many other sentient life forms that developed on this planet in the millions of years prior to the emergence of humanity as the dominant species.


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Posted 08 March 2012 - 01:33 PM

View Postdekker87, on 08 March 2012 - 11:57 AM, said:

Alien implies something extra-terrestrial….i’m saying there may have been many other sentient life forms that developed on this planet in the millions of years prior to the emergence of humanity as the dominant species.

ok, :tu:  I now see...thanks for clarifying


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Posted 08 March 2012 - 02:14 PM

Many of the cases where people claim "Since we can't figure out how they could have done it today, what are the chances that a bunch of different separate societies of ancient humans were able to figure out how to do it thousands of years ago?" misstake one important thing.

It's not that we can't physically do those things, it's more that we can't do those within what would be considered practical by our standards. It was one building or monument in a show I saw (Don't recall which) and they had a so called engineer claiming such a construct would be impossible to achieve for us.

But it was not a impossible construction, it was a impractical construction. Not the same thing, even if it's easy to pass them off to be the same to get a selling point in the tv.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 05:59 PM

View PostMallaliak, on 08 March 2012 - 02:14 PM, said:

Many of the cases where people claim "Since we can't figure out how they could have done it today, what are the chances that a bunch of different separate societies of ancient humans were able to figure out how to do it thousands of years ago?" misstake one important thing.

It's not that we can't physically do those things, it's more that we can't do those within what would be considered practical by our standards. It was one building or monument in a show I saw (Don't recall which) and they had a so called engineer claiming such a construct would be impossible to achieve for us.

But it was not a impossible construction, it was a impractical construction. Not the same thing, even if it's easy to pass them off to be the same to get a selling point in the tv.

Yeah, but ancients people built impracticable things all the time. There was a time in Europe when building a church could take a lifetime.


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Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:48 PM

View Postaquatus1, on 07 March 2012 - 10:49 PM, said:

Welcome to the forum, Nopeda.  
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Think very carefully about that statement.

Dozens of different societies all around the earth figured out Masonry technology.  If a bunch of societies around the planet can all figure it out, the logical conclusion is that the technology is not all that complex.  

You should be careful of logic that begins with the assumption of "I, personally, do not know, therefore others do not either."
Thank you for the welcome. We don't know, meaning none of us, but so far I stand by what I wrote and add to it that if we can't get online and find out how they did it, then dozens of separate early human civilizations are not likely to have figured it out on their own either. No offense, but I believe it's you who are not thinking it through. The masonry example was not a good one because it's too simple, and it's quite possible that there are no good examples. I personally can't think of one that even comes close, again making the likelyhood in favor of humans drop even more. Also it seems that pretty much everywhere those huge stone constructions exist, there is reference to star people or something similar. Why would they try to fool future humans? It seems more likely they would think future humans would be going in space with them with their own ships by this time rather than disbelieving they even exist. Doesn't it? They believed, so why wouldn't they expect future humans to believe and learn more about them, and start to share the universe with them...?


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Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:57 PM

View PostDONTEATUS, on 08 March 2012 - 03:28 AM, said:

Love the Name ! NOPEDA  ! Anti-Wiki-leak and all !  I too welcome you to a really great Forum  ! As far as advanced Aliens or Ancient humans ? WHo`s to ever know we seem to have many,many opinions on this subject in here.
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Thank you for the welcome. I often write the name nopEda. It is in opposition to the gross misnomer "animal rights" and the elimination objective. No offense to anyone here but I do oppose that approach and very much favor decent animal welfare and trying to provide domestic animals with lives of positive value instead. The name is sort of a slam on PeTA, and means no to people for the Extinction of domestic animals.


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Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:59 PM

According to the Ra Materials (The Law of One) the pyramids were built by extraterrestrials using thought alone. Very interesting read.  :tu:

How the pyramids were built and why Amenhotep IV/Akhenaten instituted monotheism.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 08:15 PM

View PostFurthurBB, on 08 March 2012 - 05:59 PM, said:

Yeah, but ancients people built impracticable things all the time. There was a time in Europe when building a church could take a lifetime.

I dont see anything special with the pyramids except to think those Egyptians had a lot of spare time on their hands.


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Posted 08 March 2012 - 08:31 PM

View Postdekker87, on 08 March 2012 - 09:41 AM, said:

Why does everyone bang on about ancient humans?

Why, primarily, do most people only consider the two options – ancient humans or aliens – as being the only possible answers?

The earth is millions of years old….many many many civilisations – human or otherwise – may have risen and fallen since the formation of the earth.
Maybe dinosaurs did it and humans moved in later, but I disbelieve that possibility for a number of reasons. I'm not aware of humans doing many things like that more recently either. Why did they stop? Even if they didn't keep moving huge rocks around there are plenty of heavy things humans lift, so why did they quit doing it to such an extent that no one knows how they did it? The most likely answer seems to be that they can't do it any more because the beings with the stuff to do it with went away and took it with them. What answer could be more likely than that?


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Posted 08 March 2012 - 08:44 PM

View PostPandora7321, on 08 March 2012 - 07:59 PM, said:

According to the Ra Materials (The Law of One) the pyramids were built by extraterrestrials using thought alone. Very interesting read.  :tu:

How the pyramids were built and why Amenhotep IV/Akhenaten instituted monotheism.
You expect us to accept a transcript which, purportedly, details the correspondence between a questioner and Ra, as being credible?

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