nopeda, on 20 March 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:
Don't worry about the guy, or his hair. He does that to fk with people like you, so unless you want to fall for it don't be quite so much like you.
What, are you suggesting I be more like you?
No thanks, I am good.
You seem to be missing a great deal here, the guy with the funny hair, Giorgio Tsoukalos, is the main person to carry the Ancient Aliens torch. He is not messing with anyone, by the way the language filters are in place for a reason, he is touting what his version of the wild ideals already put forth by others. He is just the next person in line after Daniken, Stitchin and Temple, not to mention the fringe crackpots like Icke. He is not messing with me in any way, I think his hair is the only thing he has going for him.
nopeda, on 20 March 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:
If this is a project planet for some xts and God/Jehova is running it, then we can certainly think of that being as our God. That's the being Ezekial was referring to, whether he exists or not.
There are countless reasons he could be referred to as son of man, and most likely it was to recognise his position. He might have been the first full blooded human the xts had much direct contact with, for example. Or maybe the first one in that particular stage of the operation, or whatever...
God is running a biological experiment on earth? Good Lord. Didn't use much logic when creating the laryngeal nerve of the Giraffe did he.
LINK - Some More of God's Greatest Mistakes
How do you find wild speculation to be evidence? The references used, such as Son of Man are Biblical references. Why would a Biblical reference, which we have, not be the influence, but some whacky story about human hybrids (which DNA studies do not support), which we do not have, that you made up, be the correct answer? You are making this up as you go along, and you are telling me this musing trumps the fossil record and basic genetic makeup? I just do not see Occam's razor in that. Even if we found life in Europa, it does not automatically mean that it did not originate on Earth, and therefore alien. Guessing games are not proof. Your "Massive blocks" inferences in your OP was shown to be an erroneous assumption, you asked how could these things be done, and you were shown, several times by several people. Did that not help the penny drop? Now considering your OP, you also say:
It seems more likely than not that there are beings who can get around in space in the universe. . Well, no it does not. Physics are the same wherever you go, if you head over to Messier 104, you will have to use the same principals you use here. Any trip through space is either going to be extraordinary long, and if taking advantage of time dilation and contraction , a one way journey. Please do not start speculating wormholes and the like, many have already, and none have an actual answer. Not so much as a testable hypothesis.
nopeda, on 20 March 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:
The xts would use whatever sort of faces they wanted to, and the real "boss" xts probably rarely if ever set foot on this planet imo. To me it seems most likely that they "built/grew" bodies they could control from the safety of their "home" which would be whatever vehicle they were residing in at the time. It gets more complicated from there, but if you can get that far and want to move on let me know.
Then why would they build bodies that do not seem to be as functional as the lowly "experiments" and rely on representation of earth animals? That just makes no sense at all. I think you might have watched Avatar one too many times.
nopeda, on 20 March 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:
There are many reasons why they might not look like the ets of today. One reason could be because they only use the human looking remotes when dealing directly with humans, and they use the little et remotes when buzzing around in their air vehcles. I expect they can build/grow their own remotes, or drones, or whatever you want to call them. Sometimes they are "killed" when the xts are done with them, and probably other times they are kept and re-used. The beings who came in and had contact with ancient humans during that phase of the project may specialize in that particular phase, and after it was completed on Earth moved on to another project. Maybe they will return for another phase later but wouldn't want to keep the old remotes around and try to help them survive all those thousands of years. Or maybe they will keep them around and some of the Gods of old actually will return...
So why do no human "remotes" show up in morgues? Why are all specimens quite human? And this still does not explain
why they would change "remotes" appearances. According to this nonsense, they interacted with peoples 2,000 years ago, so why would they not appear to people today in the same format? And why have we not dug up some "old remotes"? No four faced anthropomorphic fossils have shown up that I am aware of.
nopeda, on 20 March 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:
I said Ezekiel's description is proof that ancient people considered the existence of beings from other worlds, which it is.
I do not consider it so, if anything peoples then were referring to another realm. Space was something wrapped around earth as far as those peoples were concerned. It would be centuries before even the Ptolemaic Model was recognised. It begs the question, if peoples were so in touch with other worldy visitors, why would they insist the earth was the centre of the Universe? Kinda shuts down other planets.
The Ptolemaic order of spheres from Earth outward is:
Moon
Mercury
Venus
Sun
Mars
Jupiter
Saturn
Fixed Stars
Sphere of Prime Mover
nopeda, on 20 March 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:
From my pov Occams Razor works as well if not better for xt influence than it does for everything just working out the way it has by chance.
I just cannot see it. All I see is a convoluted mess trying to qualify a nonsensical musing.
Are you familiar with the fossil record? It has been a long and arduous struggle for survival, that is why 99% of species that have ever existed on the earth died out
before the rise of man.
nopeda, on 20 March 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:
What I said people have a long way to go about is considering the possibility that the ancient people who wrote about beings from off planet were not lying. I believe you would have a long way to go on that and so would the majority of people on this forum, from what I've seen so far. And it doesn't seem like you should be ashamed of it either, if for some reason you have confidence that no xts have ever been here.
Yes, there is a very long way to go, but not simply from my perspective, but the validity of the Bible, as I said, it is impossible that it is entirely accurate due to the existence of freshwater organisms. Are you taking this into account? You seem to be brushing over the most important fact here, that being that the Bible is proven to be inaccurate. Yet you are trying to tell me that one needs to "open one's mind" to look past these inaccuracies and swallow the very tall tale of the Bible being an accurate record. That is not moving forward, that is sticking one's head in the sand. That I think one should be ashamed of touting such nonsense as even a hypothesis, as the real information which counters these musings lies at your very fingertips via the same resource you used to garner this nonsense and cook up this tall tale. Hubbard and Whorehillion have already trodden this path down, you are a bit late of the mark the way I see it.
Edited by psyche101, 21 March 2012 - 02:38 AM.
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