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Secret Signs in Movie "Ubit drakona"


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#16    Bracket

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 03:20 AM

View PostlibstaK, on 10 March 2012 - 03:13 AM, said:

Ah but you see according to the OP - they're all in on it.:w00t:  If it was me, personally I would just pick up the phone and blither on in "demon tongue" to all my brethren, much less expensive and you get to say so much more :devil:

Ah, true.  :yes:  Well, that would explain some of the actors and directors i've met.  :lol:

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 03:35 AM

View PostThe_Spirit_of_Truth, on 10 March 2012 - 12:36 AM, said:

Legal statement: The author of this post apologies to the creators of the movie "Убить дракона" for the use of their graphics and that he had talked about it negatively. He only said his own personal opinion and fantasy about it in order to discuss it here.

He did warn you !


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Posted 10 March 2012 - 07:54 AM

So where are the "satanic" signs?

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"What Hellish people do is that that they use normally looking things and gestures, but in such an order, combination or circumstances that will make them look little indicating, but not straightly suspicious. Only then it won’t look noticeably and only then the existence of the hidden meaning in such things cannot be proven.
Hellish people are very proud of making all the things they do look naturally to normal people and of their ability to hide the true purpose of what they are doing. They are always able to explain anything they do, to introduce a good and naturally looking reason for it. They lie like the Hell that they came from. And normal people always believe them."
Don't you see you're making up what the hellish people do? They are your creation. You've invented their hidden agenda, and as a cop out for lack of evidence it's again the fault of the "hellish people".

One unsubstantiated accusation after another.

Edited by Rlyeh, 10 March 2012 - 08:01 AM.


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Posted 10 March 2012 - 04:55 PM

View PostThe_Spirit_of_Truth, on 10 March 2012 - 02:02 AM, said:

Hellish people have the main part in the quick technical development of our society. They have also a big big word in the entertainment. When they do certain positions about eyes, specific gestures and movements (in the movies they have created), these are recognized by the other members of their kind. It is like a message or like a greeting to the other. Nothing unbelievable. Strictly logic.
There's nothing logical about it.

Your premise is:

-There are people you claim are satanic, though you haven't presented evidence for how you know this.

-These people supposedly use certain specific patterns of physical emphasis.

-These patterns supposedly identify them as satanic.

-Other people use these patterns and employ them in media, therefore these people are also satanic.

From a logical standpoint, there are several things wrong with this line of reasoning:

http://en.wikipedia...._generalization

http://en.wikipedia....ciation_fallacy

http://en.wikipedia....i/False_analogy

And those are just the obvious ones.

Edited by Oniomancer, 10 March 2012 - 04:56 PM.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 11:18 PM

View PostOniomancer, on 10 March 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:

There's nothing logical about it.

Your premise is:

-There are people you claim are satanic, though you haven't presented evidence for how you know this.

-These people supposedly use certain specific patterns of physical emphasis.

-These patterns supposedly identify them as satanic.

-Other people use these patterns and employ them in media, therefore these people are also satanic.

From a logical standpoint, there are several things wrong with this line of reasoning:

http://en.wikipedia...._generalization

http://en.wikipedia....ciation_fallacy

http://en.wikipedia....i/False_analogy

And those are just the obvious ones.

:w00t:  :nw:  :tu:

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Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

*Note to self, need more henchman, good ones this time. Also, start auditions for new female lab assistant.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 11:58 PM

View PostThe_Spirit_of_Truth, on 10 March 2012 - 02:33 AM, said:

True, sometimes it is not easy to distinguish between a known natural behavior and an identical deliberate behavior and one cannot easily picture the precise location or the border between the two.

More accurately, it is so difficult that it is the primary reason for self-deception, and it is the one aspect of the human psyche that almost all the procedures in skepticism and scientific methodology, which are used for validation and accreditation, are designed for the specific purpose of eliminating.

I cannot help but notice that you do not seem to have a way of eliminating this variable.

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I have one good related explanation but in a different language.
Please let me tell you one theoretical example:
For instance, you know that among the people who have made such a movie there is a lot of Hellish people. You already saw some of their secret sings and you know them a little. Then when you see such a movie with one such exact Satanic indication after another, you can already guess, that the probability that it was the Hellish people who have made such a movie and who deliberately put their secret signs and gestures into it is about 97,5%, for example. Perhaps you still are not literally fully sure about it (now I mean totally 100%), but you are almost sure. The Satanic origin of it is very probable if not almost sure. This is a stricly logical thinking.

No, it is actually a logical fallacy.  You are begging the question.  You do not know that among the people who have made the movie is a lot of Hellish people.  You merely assume that for the sake of the argument.  You cannot assume there are Hellish people involved, and then assume that you see Hellish signs, and then confirm the signs are Hellish because you assumed the people are Hellish.  This leads, almost inevitably, to a circular argument.

"There are Hellish signs in the movie."

"How do you know they are Hellish?"

"They were made by Hellish people."

"How do you know the people are Hellish?"

"They put Hellish signs in the movie."

It is bad logic.  It cannot be validated, which makes it somewhat useless (or, at least, indistinguishable from statements of belief).

Even in a fantasy scenario, it is a somewhat blatant gap.


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Posted 11 March 2012 - 12:24 AM

Even if there were some way that any of this were even remotely correct, what would be the point? As others have pointed out it doesn't seems like millions of dollars would be spent by hellish people just to acknowledge other hellish people.

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 09:21 AM

The OP must be a member if he can see the signs.


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Posted 14 March 2012 - 03:44 PM

There is a pdf file that explains the "Satanic indications" in this movie in a more detailed way:

https://rapidshare.c...ll_a_dragon.zip

Normal people, do not be surprised about all the negative replies to my post. Hellish people always pretend, that they do not recognize the indications from this movie, but they do.


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Posted 14 March 2012 - 04:59 PM

I'm not surprised, its to be expected when you're making ridiculous accusations. However you should consider seeking psychiatric help.


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Posted 14 March 2012 - 08:22 PM

View PostThe_Spirit_of_Truth, on 14 March 2012 - 03:44 PM, said:

There is a pdf file that explains the "Satanic indications" in this movie in a more detailed way:https://rapidshare.c...ll_a_dragon.zipNormal people, do not be surprised about all the negative replies to my post. Hellish people always pretend, that they do not recognize the indications from this movie, but they do.

That's still not evidence.  :rolleyes:  So, you're saying there are "hellish" people on this site?  :huh:

View PostRlyeh, on 14 March 2012 - 04:59 PM, said:

I'm not surprised, its to be expected when you're making ridiculous accusations. However you should consider seeking psychiatric help.

I'd have to agree with you.  :hmm:

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:27 AM

I just want to know what the point would be. The OP still has yet to mention it.


Edit: spelling.

Edited by Imaginarynumber1, 15 March 2012 - 01:28 AM.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 05:46 AM

View PostBracket, on 14 March 2012 - 08:22 PM, said:

That's still not evidence.  :rolleyes:  So, you're saying there are "hellish" people on this site?  :huh:
Yes, apparently anyone who criticizes his argument are "hellish" people too. Typical conspiracy theorist paranoia.


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Posted 15 March 2012 - 06:32 AM

View Postaquatus1, on 10 March 2012 - 02:04 AM, said:

If you cannot distinguish between a known natural behaviour and an identical deliberate behaviour, how do you confirm that the deliberate behaviour actually exists?

Reminds me of the argument of 'intelligent control' of UFO's vs. atmospheric plasma (or other natural occurrences). Never got a satisfactory answer for that one either.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 03:14 PM

In advance, I deeply apology for the unfriendly tone and offensive words:

On many areas Hellish people are even the majority of population and normal people are the minority of population. Hellish people rule this world being even presidents. They also rule the research of mysteries and investigation of all the things that could discover them (the conclusion is always negative). Their ever-lasting presence on big forums like this is absolutely normal thing.

In private conversations, these Hellish people are sometimes normally talking about their Satanic things and then they pretend that nothing like that exists and that they do not believe in it, which is their normal behavior as I have heard and seen it myself.

I would be a fool if I expected that you will admit that you recognize the secret signs of you kind. Of course, you must lie that not. I was only curious if you will really negate everything what you know so well. And you did.

Hellish people are the biggest mystery that is never allowed to be discovered here. Solve (sometimes also artificially created) mysteries, but if someone would try to discover them, everything would be negated.

So, I will not contribute to this forum again. Good bye.

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Normal people, it sounds unbelievably to you and you think that all the independent people you know, out of which everyone is different than the other, are all normal like you. They all have natural behavior and many of them seem to be even really good friends. But the majority of them is internally different. After your death you will learn the truth. When being told this during your earthly life, you do not believe, which in understandable.





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