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#1    ZaraKitty

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 01:42 AM

I'm 19 years old and have been terrified of death since I was a little girl, well the fear of becoming nothing, or ceasing to exist. I used to think I'd seen ghosts or heard spirits but I always think it's just wishful thinking. If anyone had had a kind of experience that made them a believer could you please share?
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Posted 10 March 2012 - 02:14 AM

I really don't see the problem with there being nothing after death. It's not like you'll know.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 06:52 AM

View PostZaraKitty, on 10 March 2012 - 01:42 AM, said:

I'm 19 years old and have been terrified of death since I was a little girl, well the fear of becoming nothing, or ceasing to exist. I used to think I'd seen ghosts or heard spirits but I always think it's just wishful thinking. If anyone had had a kind of experience that made them a believer could you please share?
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I have seen ghosts since I was very young.
I too wondered what is out there after death even though I have had these expereinces , until my dad died. (well, 10 yrs. later really, but here's why) When he was diagnosed with brain tumors he told me many things, strange zen, not to smoke, not to do anything to ruin my reputation, etc. (I was 17) At the end of this long talk he added , "if my calculations are correct I'll be back with you in about 10 yrs." Now, being a teenager just hearing a bunch of "zen" I didn't understand and quite frankly felt like he was full of it over, I dismissed it pretty much...but I did always remember it because he mentioned calculations and I wondered what the heck he meant by this. He always did a lot of studying of ley lines, and weird math, etc. that a young person just can't grasp....so, long story short he passed away shortly after this talk. I went on with my life, got married , started having children, yadda yadda. 9 yrs. and 5 mos. after my dad had died I had child #4...this child was clearly an "old soul" type person from the get go, she was articulate by the age of 1 , walked at 9 mos. , very alert to her surroundings and people's behavior/interactions with each other, and would make note of it and comment on how they should've acted rather than excepting their behavior to mimic as children normally do. At the age of 2 1/2 yrs. old she came walking into the kitchen just beaming with light , smile big as I've ever seen it! She climbed up on my lap , making constant eye contact with me, she places both her tiny hands on each of my cheeks and looks me straight in the eye as she says to me with great glee and joy,"I used to be your father and you used to sit on my lap just like this!!!" Needless to say all of my dad's words came flouding back to me, yet I was completely startled by it to the point that I sat her down in front of me and looked at her with surprise and shock/disbelief...she, still smiling turned and walked away and sat in the chair on the opposite side of the table, as if she was knowingly giving me time to process this information, with a "I told you so " sortof look. THAT is the day I believed in reincarnation for the first time and knew with all my heart that we do have life after death in  a soul form and we can come back here to a specific family if that is what we so choose....
Don't be afraid of leaving this life, it is merely a phase of your growth and experience. The body your soul resides in is your vehicle, take care of it and give it due maintenance when needed . We are not human's on a spiritual journey, we are spirits on a human journey...(in my opinion, respectfully)
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Posted 10 March 2012 - 08:20 AM

But that in itself is scary to me, it takes away all meaning to life. If this is all we're here for, a short 80-100 years, then nothing. There's no meaning  :unsure:

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 08:24 AM

View PostEarthSongs, on 10 March 2012 - 06:52 AM, said:

I have seen ghosts since I was very young.
I too wondered what is out there after death even though I have had these expereinces , until my dad died. (well, 10 yrs. later really, but here's why) When he was diagnosed with brain tumors he told me many things, strange zen, not to smoke, not to do anything to ruin my reputation, etc. (I was 17) At the end of this long talk he added , "if my calculations are correct I'll be back with you in about 10 yrs." Now, being a teenager just hearing a bunch of "zen" I didn't understand and quite frankly felt like he was full of it over, I dismissed it pretty much...but I did always remember it because he mentioned calculations and I wondered what the heck he meant by this. He always did a lot of studying of ley lines, and weird math, etc. that a young person just can't grasp....so, long story short he passed away shortly after this talk. I went on with my life, got married , started having children, yadda yadda. 9 yrs. and 5 mos. after my dad had died I had child #4...this child was clearly an "old soul" type person from the get go, she was articulate by the age of 1 , walked at 9 mos. , very alert to her surroundings and people's behavior/interactions with each other, and would make note of it and comment on how they should've acted rather than excepting their behavior to mimic as children normally do. At the age of 2 1/2 yrs. old she came walking into the kitchen just beaming with light , smile big as I've ever seen it! She climbed up on my lap , making constant eye contact with me, she places both her tiny hands on each of my cheeks and looks me straight in the eye as she says to me with great glee and joy,"I used to be your father and you used to sit on my lap just like this!!!" Needless to say all of my dad's words came flouding back to me, yet I was completely startled by it to the point that I sat her down in front of me and looked at her with surprise and shock/disbelief...she, still smiling turned and walked away and sat in the chair on the opposite side of the table, as if she was knowingly giving me time to process this information, with a "I told you so " sortof look. THAT is the day I believed in reincarnation for the first time and knew with all my heart that we do have life after death in  a soul form and we can come back here to a specific family if that is what we so choose....
Don't be afraid of leaving this life, it is merely a phase of your growth and experience. The body your soul resides in is your vehicle, take care of it and give it due maintenance when needed . We are not human's on a spiritual journey, we are spirits on a human journey...(in my opinion, respectfully)
Peace and be calm, look within to find your truths and to know yourself.

That's amazing to hear, and it gives me faith in spirituality, i've been looking for answer for a long time, and your Dad sounds like he knew what he was talking about. Thankyou for sharing!

View PostEarthSongs, on 10 March 2012 - 06:52 AM, said:

I have seen ghosts since I was very young.
I too wondered what is out there after death even though I have had these expereinces , until my dad died. (well, 10 yrs. later really, but here's why) When he was diagnosed with brain tumors he told me many things, strange zen, not to smoke, not to do anything to ruin my reputation, etc. (I was 17) At the end of this long talk he added , "if my calculations are correct I'll be back with you in about 10 yrs." Now, being a teenager just hearing a bunch of "zen" I didn't understand and quite frankly felt like he was full of it over, I dismissed it pretty much...but I did always remember it because he mentioned calculations and I wondered what the heck he meant by this. He always did a lot of studying of ley lines, and weird math, etc. that a young person just can't grasp....so, long story short he passed away shortly after this talk. I went on with my life, got married , started having children, yadda yadda. 9 yrs. and 5 mos. after my dad had died I had child #4...this child was clearly an "old soul" type person from the get go, she was articulate by the age of 1 , walked at 9 mos. , very alert to her surroundings and people's behavior/interactions with each other, and would make note of it and comment on how they should've acted rather than excepting their behavior to mimic as children normally do. At the age of 2 1/2 yrs. old she came walking into the kitchen just beaming with light , smile big as I've ever seen it! She climbed up on my lap , making constant eye contact with me, she places both her tiny hands on each of my cheeks and looks me straight in the eye as she says to me with great glee and joy,"I used to be your father and you used to sit on my lap just like this!!!" Needless to say all of my dad's words came flouding back to me, yet I was completely startled by it to the point that I sat her down in front of me and looked at her with surprise and shock/disbelief...she, still smiling turned and walked away and sat in the chair on the opposite side of the table, as if she was knowingly giving me time to process this information, with a "I told you so " sortof look. THAT is the day I believed in reincarnation for the first time and knew with all my heart that we do have life after death in  a soul form and we can come back here to a specific family if that is what we so choose....
Don't be afraid of leaving this life, it is merely a phase of your growth and experience. The body your soul resides in is your vehicle, take care of it and give it due maintenance when needed . We are not human's on a spiritual journey, we are spirits on a human journey...(in my opinion, respectfully)
Peace and be calm, look within to find your truths and to know yourself.

That's amazing to hear, and it gives me faith in spirituality, i've been looking for answer for a long time, and your Dad sounds like he knew what he was talking about. Thankyou for sharing!

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 09:37 AM

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But that in itself is scary to me, it takes away all meaning to life. If this is all we're here for, a short 80-100 years, then nothing. There's no meaning :unsure:

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 06:54 PM

My experience really didn't have much to do with ghosts or spirits. I had experienced that type of stuff before but for some reason I just didn't connect it to the after life maybe because I was too young to understand... but yes, there is an after life. We are and always will be, I don't think our essence is ever lost.

When I got into my teens a bunch a bad stuff happened to me by the time I was 18 I didn't believe in God at all. I didn't think there was anything after death, just this life. I began too heal to try to mend my soul I was searching for answers I began reading books on all different religions and theology. I needed something, I felt like you. I really got no answers, I decided that best I could do was be the best person I can be. I realized Karma is my best chance to live a happy life.

One day when I was 21 I was was with my friend I had gone with her to the grocery store and  as we were walking in she was talking to me about her baby... I remember I was so stressed, I was paying no mind to her. I thought I was pregnant, I was really afraid. Right at that moment I was thinking to myself, "What am I going to do?? I'm not ready, I can't lead a child in this world, I can't even take care of myself!! What am I going to do??"  Then this guy comes walking up to me... (He looked like he was homeless, or part of one those church organizations that help addicts) and hands me this piece of paper that looks like a dollar bill. I took it from him and began to read it. It said something like... "In her womb there is her savior, and he shall be called Emmanuel."  I froze. I couldn't believe what I had just read it was like someone had just answered me from out of thin air. Like someone was telling me not to be afraid because this baby would save ME. Tears flooded my eyes, the emotions that overcame me were indescribable. I looked around to find the guy but he was gone, I asked my friend where he had gone and and she said she didn't know, he had left. I wasn't pregnant, but if I had been his name would have been Emmanuel. If I ever have a son his name will be Emmanuel.

I really think that was God touching my life. I honestly believe that's how these things work, it will always be trough someone else who is there at the right place, at the right time. Once this happened I began to see things in a whole new way. I had always felt a connection to this planet to all living things, but after this I understood there is a driving force. There is a consciousness there. This opened up my eyes to the spirituality behind everything, it helped me connect these aspects of my life which had been lacking. I understood for once that there is someone listening, it is us who rarely listen for the answers. I realized  synchronicity is the way the world speaks to us. I freed my soul, my life will never be the same, I'm only 25 but my faith is a rock that can not be shaken. I found this for myself, my journey led me here, my pain and suffering, everything comes full circle. If I had not experienced those things I would not be here today.


I would say to begin a journey to being found first one must be lost. I believe your journey has begun, consider it a gift that you have this yearning at such a young age for you will have the rest of your life to walk righteously. Some don't feel this need for answers till way later in life, you have long, very long to keep growing... this is only the beginning.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 09:40 PM

View PostDharma D, on 10 March 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

My experience really didn't have much to do with ghosts or spirits. I had experienced that type of stuff before but for some reason I just didn't connect it to the after life maybe because I was too young to understand... but yes, there is an after life. We are and always will be, I don't think our essence is ever lost.

When I got into my teens a bunch a bad stuff happened to me by the time I was 18 I didn't believe in God at all. I didn't think there was anything after death, just this life. I began too heal to try to mend my soul I was searching for answers I began reading books on all different religions and theology. I needed something, I felt like you. I really got no answers, I decided that best I could do was be the best person I can be. I realized Karma is my best chance to live a happy life.

One day when I was 21 I was was with my friend I had gone with her to the grocery store and  as we were walking in she was talking to me about her baby... I remember I was so stressed, I was paying no mind to her. I thought I was pregnant, I was really afraid. Right at that moment I was thinking to myself, "What am I going to do?? I'm not ready, I can't lead a child in this world, I can't even take care of myself!! What am I going to do??"  Then this guy comes walking up to me... (He looked like he was homeless, or part of one those church organizations that help addicts) and hands me this piece of paper that looks like a dollar bill. I took it from him and began to read it. It said something like... "In her womb there is her savior, and he shall be called Emmanuel."  I froze. I couldn't believe what I had just read it was like someone had just answered me from out of thin air. Like someone was telling me not to be afraid because this baby would save ME. Tears flooded my eyes, the emotions that overcame me were indescribable. I looked around to find the guy but he was gone, I asked my friend where he had gone and and she said she didn't know, he had left. I wasn't pregnant, but if I had been his name would have been Emmanuel. If I ever have a son his name will be Emmanuel.

I really think that was God touching my life. I honestly believe that's how these things work, it will always be trough someone else who is there at the right place, at the right time. Once this happened I began to see things in a whole new way. I had always felt a connection to this planet to all living things, but after this I understood there is a driving force. There is a consciousness there. This opened up my eyes to the spirituality behind everything, it helped me connect these aspects of my life which had been lacking. I understood for once that there is someone listening, it is us who rarely listen for the answers. I realized  synchronicity is the way the world speaks to us. I freed my soul, my life will never be the same, I'm only 25 but my faith is a rock that can not be shaken. I found this for myself, my journey led me here, my pain and suffering, everything comes full circle. If I had not experienced those things I would not be here today.


I would say to begin a journey to being found first one must be lost. I believe your journey has begun, consider it a gift that you have this yearning at such a young age for you will have the rest of your life to walk righteously. Some don't feel this need for answers till way later in life, you have long, very long to keep growing... this is only the beginning.


That's incredible, and I thank you for sharing it. I had never thought that to be found I must first be lost, and I am defiantly lost. UM is where I've begun my journey, learning about everyone's beleifs is my first step.
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Posted 10 March 2012 - 09:43 PM

View PostJohn from Lowell, on 10 March 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

Once you can define spirituality as personal empowerment, it starts to have a degree of attraction.



Exactly. The more you can reflect on this kind of thinking, the easier it will be to appreciate your own inner wisdom.

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How is spirituality a person empowerment, I'm not being a skeptic, or mean, I'm curious about what you think ^^

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 11:27 PM

View PostZaraKitty, on 10 March 2012 - 08:20 AM, said:

But that in itself is scary to me, it takes away all meaning to life. If this is all we're here for, a short 80-100 years, then nothing. There's no meaning  :unsure:

You make your own meaning in life. Your life's purpose doesn't kick in when it ends. Do you drive a car after it's died on you? No. Do you eat food when it goes bad? No. The afterlife ISN'T the purpose of life. If it was proven that there was no afterlife, would you just sit down and do nothing until you die? The meaning to life is what you do every day. The very fact that you're here has made you affect the lives of your friends and family. THAT'S the meaning to life.

Edited by Bracket, 10 March 2012 - 11:28 PM.

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 02:03 AM

View PostZaraKitty, on 10 March 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

How is spirituality a person empowerment, I'm not being a skeptic, or mean, I'm curious about what you think ^^

I see spirituality as increasing energetic awareness. This becomes personal empowerment when you notice your thinking, your reactions to those thoughts, and make adjustments with your thinking to promote an improvement in your reactions.

Religions teach things about God as if it were a being outside of the self. A spiritual person, with or without religions, will look within the self for their highest inner wisdom when they really need to make improvements in their life. This is instinctual for many of us. Find that inner wisdom and just feel the relief.

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 02:47 AM

There is a famous story,I want to say ,from India ?
A man's wife died.He never remarried,and some 18-20 years later,a woman of about that age,showed up at his door.
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It contained all his wife's missing jewelry .
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 04:32 PM

View PostZaraKitty, on 10 March 2012 - 01:42 AM, said:

I'm 19 years old and have been terrified of death since I was a little girl, well the fear of becoming nothing, or ceasing to exist. I used to think I'd seen ghosts or heard spirits but I always think it's just wishful thinking. If anyone had had a kind of experience that made them a believer could you please share?
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 06:34 PM

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But that in itself is scary to me, it takes away all meaning to life. If this is all we're here for, a short 80-100 years, then nothing. There's no meaning  :unsure:

Think of the thousands of years before you came to be. You weren't conscious then, you were essentially nothing. I believe that death is like going back to the time before you were born. There was nothing scary about that time, right? I think blissful unconsciousness would be more pleasant than a heaven or Hell or anywhere else we may go for eternity.

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 06:47 PM

No one knows what happens when we die, really. I don't know what kinds of thoughts you tell yourself about dying, but whatever they are, it's all supposition, isn't it, a story you're telling yourself, that has no basis in fact? So you're probably thinking the worst possible thoughts. Why not change the way you think, since you can't change the inevitable. Do some study, research, reading about how other cultures & religions perceive death. Educate yourself, use your mind & intelligence to sift through the information; then perhaps your story will change and run on a more positive track. And does your fear infringe on your happiness in the present? You're focusing on the future, which is unknown. Focus on the present, how you can serve others, how you can find your joy, engage in activities you love. It's not easy, but you have the ability to direct the changes in your life, if you feel like this is something you want to change.





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