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#31    Freshness

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 04:41 AM

If anything or anyone should be cloned, it should be Jesus or Albert Einstien, or an Alien!


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Posted 15 March 2012 - 04:55 AM

 Freshness, on 15 March 2012 - 04:41 AM, said:

If anything or anyone should be cloned, it should be Jesus or Albert Einstien, or an Alien!
Do you really believe, even if this was technically possible, That it would be ethically sound ? What a hell of a life for this "curiousity", their life would not be their own. You wouldn't wish such an artificial life on anyone, being under the microscope every day of their lives.


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Posted 15 March 2012 - 05:13 AM

 Freshness, on 15 March 2012 - 04:41 AM, said:

If anything or anyone should be cloned, it should be Jesus or Albert Einstien, or an Alien!

Cloning doesn't work quite that way. You realize that what makes a person a "person" has just as much (if not more so) to do with environmental experiences as it does genetic make-up right? Without the same life experiences a clone could be significantly different from the original.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:11 PM

I dont know a whole lot about the genetics and the engineering involved in creating a clone but if it proves successful, it would have a lot of useful applications with regards to the cloning category. Cloned organs, limbs? [again excuse me ignorance, not a geneticist].

As for it being a viable food source,hmm im not overly worried about that so much but would be really cool to see what exactly a mammoth did, you know path migrations and what not. To see that first hand would be cool.

Also if lets say a human being was cloned. they may look a like, have the same DNA but that doesnt mean they'll be the same individual. What makes a person different and what makes a person unique unto themselves is what they experience and how they choose to act. I find one quote really explains this "Its not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me". A double of the original,Yes. Same DNA,yes.Same looks, yes. Same way of thinking, acting, feeling, I sincerely doubt it.

Thats like a pair of identical twins do every single thing the same, act the same, think the same. etc etc etc. ;)

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 03:27 AM

 ohio state buckeyes, on 15 March 2012 - 04:28 AM, said:

Playing God  :no:


I was waiting for this. Since, IMO, God is not real, we're playing scientists. That's more like it. And as others have pointed out, it could be a huge advancement in the medical community. I think a lot of good can come from this.


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Posted 18 March 2012 - 06:26 PM

I have to agree also. if successful alot of good can be achieved. playing god, hmm I'm not gonna question anyone's faith but if medical advancement is going to be refered to as "playing god" and is therefore seen as heresy in the eyes of a few. then so be it. I bet people who lost limbs would ne happy to hear that they have the tech to clone limbs.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 11:08 PM

There could be good things and bad things coming out of this advancement.  Like Hybrid89 mentioned, it could help with medical stuff. Not to mention it would solve a lot of questions about mamoths (and later on everything else) Though we may just go too far. (Go ahead and imagine what ever you think may happen)  My thoughts would be that they just might clone too many things and well there goes room on Earth.  My oppinion is that we wait until we can live in space or find a way for more room (if that ever happens)


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 01:27 PM

I will admit, as much as it might be a good idea, the idea of bringing creatures, plants or what ever back to life doesnt seem natural. There are reason beyond our understanding that these things are not on the earth any more, be it man's influence or nature's. At the end of the day, everything makes way for greater things in this life


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 01:59 PM

Would an elephant mother be able to carry  and birth a mammoth calf though? I have no idea how big a mammoth calf is in comparison to an elephant calf but I'm guessing it'd be quite a difference. I feel sorry for the mother.

Also, I remember a few years ago there was a story going around that a human was cloned by this same scientist. Dunno whether it's true though.

All in all I personally think scientist may indeed go too far with this.

Anyone up for watching Jurrasic Park with me?


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Posted 13 April 2012 - 12:05 AM

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watching? in a few more years time we can VISIT jurassic park :D


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Posted 13 April 2012 - 12:22 AM

Did they learn nothing from Jurassic Park?


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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:12 AM

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Did they learn nothing from Jurassic Park?

when mammoths escape, they dont eat the tourists though :D


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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:32 AM

 Anne-Marie, on 11 April 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

Would an elephant mother be able to carry  and birth a mammoth calf though? I have no idea how big a mammoth calf is in comparison to an elephant calf but I'm guessing it'd be quite a difference. I feel sorry for the mother.

Also, I remember a few years ago there was a story going around that a human was cloned by this same scientist. Dunno whether it's true though.

All in all I personally think scientist may indeed go too far with this.

Anyone up for watching Jurrasic Park with me?

Mammoths were in fact a little smaller than the modern African Elephant.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 05:09 PM

 DKO, on 13 April 2012 - 02:32 AM, said:

Mammoths were in fact a little smaller than the modern African Elephant.

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Mammuthus sungari, sometimes called the Songhua River mammoth, evolved from smaller Siberian mammoths and lived in northern China during the middle Pleistocene (about 280,000 years ago). It survived until the beginning of the Late Pleistocene.

The replica specimen on display at the Ibaraki Nature Museum in Ibaraki, Japan, is 9.1 metres (30 ft) long, 5.3 metres (17 ft) tall, and has an estimated weight of 17 tonnes (19 short tons) slightly smaller than Paraceratherium, the largest known land mammal. The original skeleton is at the Inner Mongolian Museum and it is based on two very large individuals found in 1980 at the Zhalainuoer Coal Mine in Hulun Buir City. These specimens indicate that it is the largest mammoth species found
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http://en.wikipedia....mmuthus_sungari


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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:23 PM

 Abramelin, on 13 April 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

Mammuthus sungari, sometimes called the Songhua River mammoth, evolved from smaller Siberian mammoths and lived in northern China during the middle Pleistocene (about 280,000 years ago). It survived until the beginning of the Late Pleistocene.

The replica specimen on display at the Ibaraki Nature Museum in Ibaraki, Japan, is 9.1 metres (30 ft) long, 5.3 metres (17 ft) tall, and has an estimated weight of 17 tonnes (19 short tons) – slightly smaller than Paraceratherium, the largest known land mammal. The original skeleton is at the Inner Mongolian Museum and it is based on two very large individuals found in 1980 at the Zhalainuoer Coal Mine in Hulun Buir City. These specimens indicate that it is the largest mammoth species found
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http://en.wikipedia....mmuthus_sungari

I guess I should have said on average most mammoths were roughly the same size as modern elephants.


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